r/SameGrassButGreener

People who live in towns that look like postcards or desirable aesthetic style places: Whats your town's downfall to living there?

Title. Basically if your town has those perfect scenic looks with tall hills, beautiful trees, cozy fall and gorgeous spring. What's the thing that you don't like??? Thanks

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u/Wack0HookedOnT0bac0 — 9 hours ago

Which outdoorsy place should I think twice about?

Ok so me [31F] and my partner [35M] have to move over the summer to one of four places, depending on which job offer I accept after graduating from school next month. My jobs will be in healthcare. My partner works from home so he can take his job anywhere. Our landlord says we have to be out by July first so hoping for some insight on what it might be like to live in each place.

We both want to live somewhere with access to the outdoors as we enjoy hiking, nature walks, and skiing. During the week we spend a decent amount of time at home and at the gym, so a good gym nearby is important. We go to restaurants a couple times a month, as I usually cook at home. Neither of us are big drinkers but I am a sucker for cute events like farmers markets, craft events, live music, and boutique shops. We have one medium sized dog that would love a yard.

For weather, we both grew up in warm places but have recently lived in the Midwest, and we really enjoyed the rain and the colder winters. The muggy summers are not our favorite.

Here are the options, east to west:

Belfast, ME

- the job here is really cool but I have never lived anywhere this small before. Technically I have family in Brunswick nearby but they’re dysfunctional af

Littleton, CO

- job here is less flashy, but the people are my favorite

- we have way more family and friends in Denver

Fresno, CA

- job here would be super intense but I would frequently have a week off at a time to do stuff

- we don’t know anybody here

Eureka, CA

- job would be chill and would qualify for a bunch of loan repayment programs

- we also don’t know anyone here

Open to any comments/suggestions!

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u/Gigielmagnifico — 4 hours ago

Cities with so much to explore a day/weekend trip away?

Basically, cities for people who don’t quite want to fly but prefer to see cool/attractive places in the general vicinity of where they live. Sacramento is an example, you can visit Tahoe, the Bay in 2/3 hours and go for a weekend trip to Yosemite, LA, Napa wine country. looking to live in places you’d never be bored of if you’re willing to explore. Looking for 800k~ metro population or larger.

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u/Distinct-Invite9281 — 8 hours ago

Are there any large US cities (100k+ people) with a good job market?

Hello, 30 year old dude here. Grew up in Connecticut (near NYC), but currently live in rural North Carolina with my parents. I tried moving back to CT, but in the 3 years I was up there I couldn’t find a stable job. Not only is the rent atrocious up there, but I couldn’t even get an interview at McDonalds because the job market is that bad. And when I did get something, everyone would constantly have insults hurled at them & hours cut by management because they knew we had no other options. Here in NC I do have a job and it’s stable, but I can’t make any friends. I’m autistic and awkward so unfortunately it’s a numbers game for me, and there just aren’t enough people in the area for me to find people I vibe with.

Is there anywhere I can get the best of both worlds? I’ll probably just end up in retail but I’d like to make sure I’ll actually be able to get reasonable hours.

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u/Tianyulong — 8 hours ago

Green, walk/bike, near major airport, decent food, no kids

I feel like this is a typical ask here, but here goes:

40s couple, no kids. Currently live in Marin County, CA. Strongly dislike the NIBMY 65+ community (or lack thereof), the vibes (or lack thereof), shockingly high prices, the traffic. Love the access to nature, weather, and extended family close by. Hike/walk outside almost every day. Interested in kind, neighborly people, walkability, green/nature, access to outdoor recreation without being over the top (we are not extremist outdoor sportspeople). Love to have access to good food, but keep in mind that we live in a meh suburb right now with only a few options).

Job can be remote with frequent travel (currently travel a lot). Current airport commute is 1 - 1.5 hours.

We are looking to sell our house and rent somewhere for a while to see if we like it. Even if we ever come back to California, we won’t live here.

Some options identified:

  1. Ft. Collins (visited recently) - I know this is recommended here frequently, but we actually visited and liked it, just a short visit. It’s a bit far from the airport but not impossibly so. DEN is a great location for travel across the country. Ft. Collins has good biking trails and walkability in general.

  2. SLC - the religious/insular community aspect would certainly be different but we have done some research on areas - Bountiful is very close to the airport, and in spite of the smaller size of the city, SLC is a good airport with good connections. Bountiful appears to be really close to hiking etc. and that area/city proper would have more non religious/transplant people. Have been here before but not recently.

  3. Atlanta, on the beltline?

  4. Minneapolis, if we could handle the winter (???)

Thoughts and input welcome.

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u/Sea_District8891 — 12 hours ago

moving to the hudson valley

hi guys:)

I (33F) was born and raised in Manhattan and decided that it was becoming too chaotic for my nervous system- I spent about a decade in the Berkshires which I absolutely loved for its serenity and natural beauty, but it was a bit too rural after a while (less easy access to resources, harder to form community etc).

I am currently in northampton, ma, but I’m thinking about next steps in terms of an environment that suits me and my interests a bit more. I’m into fashion, beauty, all things music, great food, wellness and access to nature.

I stumbled upon beacon through a recommendation from a friend and based on a quick google search it seems to offer some of what i’m looking for. I am seeking community and wondering if anyone could share their experience with how the area responds to newcomers- Im a bit shy so I would also be grateful for some tips from people who may have recently moved there & had to build community from the ground up.

any intel, warnings or reflections would be greatly appreciated! i’m not married to the hudson valley and am very open to any other east coast towns people might suggest based on what i shared :)

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u/Silly_Chipmunk9136 — 6 hours ago

Moving from deep south Louisiana to Klamath Falls area in Oregon.

Burned out from the deep south. I have an opportunity for a good job near Klamath Falls. The money is obviously a motivator, but what is more important is a better quality of life than the dirty south.

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u/hoaruleviolater — 3 hours ago

Those who've left NYC/BK for Chicago — any regrets?

Especially families.

We love our little neighborhood in Brooklyn and have one toddler with a baby on the way, but the cost and availability of housing is just crushing, especially when you consider child care costs are $3k+ for infants in our area.

We're looking at extremely mediocre 2BR apartments for $6,000+ for the access to good schools and within a 45 minute commute to my job. And even then, we lose out to people with even better finances than we have, despite making over 50x the rent. Our money can take us soooo much farther in Chicago, which is also near our families, who love to help with child care and who we are extremely close with.

If my job allows relocation, we'd like to take the plunge, but just want to get perspectives from people who've done a similar move to cover more angles. TIA!

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u/esme_9oh — 13 hours ago
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1905 Victorian - Penthouse

NFL Draft week energy in Pittsburgh and this one’s got a front-row seat 👀

229 Grandview Ave Unit 3 is serving insane skyline views, 1905 Victorian charm with modern upgrades, and a loft + deck combo that feels like a private overlook above the city.

That deck alone?? Game-day, sunset, fireworks… all hit different from up here.

It’s the kind of place where you get historic character and actually livable updates—not always a combo you see done right.

Draft week + this view = elite timing.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/229-Grandview-Ave-APT-3-Pittsburgh-PA-15211/87988702\_zpid/?utm\_campaign=iosappmessage&utm\_medium=referral&utm\_source=txtshare

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u/Confident_Matter9800 — 5 hours ago

Atlanta or LA?

31M, gay, white, international, will soon be a grad student.

I'm looking for a place that's fun, lively, with great nightlife (I'm not a party animal by any standards, but I love the feeling a a city that's alive during the night) and also welcoming to non-Americans. I also prefer a city that's more scooter-friendly (or has better public transport), even though I know I'll probably need a car in both.

Another aspect, which I know is neighborhood-dependent, but still - is safety.

Weather is also a big factor for me - I prefer a place that is warmer and sunnier. It's not the rain I mind, but the gloomy skies.

Thanks

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u/Impressive-Rent7819 — 13 hours ago

What airline base would you choose?

Options: Seattle , Los Angeles , Boston , Minneapolis and Salt Lake City

Family of three with a 10 month old plus a dog. We want access to outdoors and good schools. Currently live in Colorado and love being within 20 minutes to trails. Budget would be around 1.3M

Would also want to be in blue county or state and preferably within 30 minute drive to airport.

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u/gonzosn — 14 hours ago

Moving out of North Carolina

Hey y'all!

I'm a 21 year old guy looking to move out of Raleigh upon graduation. For some background, i've lived in quite a few places, and having experienced living in suburban North Carolina for the last couple of years - I think I am ready for a change. I have a job lined up which starts after I graduate, I can be based out of anywhere in the US. Here are a few baseline requirements (in order of importance):

- Easy access to psychiatric/therapeutic care: I am neurodivergent, which makes this a priority. most big cities will have this, but I figured I should call it out nonetheless.

- Decently young population.

- Car scene - not looking for takeovers or anything stupid, track days/HPDEs & C&Cs is perfect! My passion for cars is quite significant and would be something i'd be putting most of my time and disposable income into.

- Liberal/leftist politics

- Moderately active job market - I'm not as ambitious about rising up the ranks. I'm mostly disillusioned by corporate as of late, and I'd rlly just like to have the ability to find a new job quickly in the off chance I get laid off (touch wood.)

- Affordability - I'd eventually like to get a place to my name. Apartment, single-family house, anything. I don't like the idea of living in borrowed spaces but I am okay with renting for the first couple of years as an early career professional.

- No roommates. Roommates introduce a lot of variables that I'd be better off not having to deal with.

Some places I've been looking at are:

- Seattle: I lived there over the last summer and loved it. I don't think it's monetarily feasible though. I'm not making Amazon money to be able to afford a place anywhere. Yes, I could thug it out in Aurora for a bit but I wouldn't prefer it. Bellevue/Redmond is a similar deal, too expensive. Maybe when I'm older.

- Portland: Seems quite nice! I've visited it a couple of times but it's not as bustling as Seattle, which makes it a little less appealing. That being said, it seems quite affordable and fairly nice to live in for what it is.

- SF/Bay Area: That is where I've lived for a good bit and would eventually like to return. I'm unfortunately priced out of every neighborhood including Oakland.

- San Diego: Not sure about SD in terms of affordability. I've only ever visited it once and it was quite beautiful. I'd love to live here and would appreciate more of an insight into what it's like.

- Austin/Dallas/Houston: My top runners at the moment because it seems to check most of my boxes (albeit Texas is a red state, but that's okay). Seems quite affordable, has a sizable car scene and has plenty of entertainment after work. Would appreciate y'alls opinion on these cities!

- St. Louis: Didn't expect STL to make it into the list, but the idea is the same as the Texan cities.

- Portland, ME: Another anomaly. I quite like New England, but I can't afford Boston comfortably. Portland seems to be quite nice for what it is!

I'm open to all of your suggestions. I know I wrote a whole lot of stuff down but it does seem quite vague, please feel free to ask clarifying questions. Thank you so much!

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u/booooimbigsad — 14 hours ago

RN with kids wanting OUT of AZ - Suggestions needed

Hey everyone! 40f here looking to get out of AZ! I’ve been here a long time and have never enjoyed it. Hate the heat, hate the desert. I have some very specific requirements and not sure where to start.

Requirements are:

  1. Somewhere with 4 seasons, where you can actually enjoy yourself in the summer.

  2. Good school system

  3. Good pay for new grad RN’s (this is a second career for me)

  4. Somewhere safe for BIPOC (my children)/ blue leaning areas

  5. Affordable as I am a single Mom and will be moving on one income.

  6. Outdoor activities

  7. Nice people - I’ll be moving alone and would like to find a community which is not easy in your 40’s. Please let me know if this magical place exists! I am open to anywhere in the US.

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u/Jenijab13 — 16 hours ago
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Portland is better than Seattle for the outdoors

Seattle has better alpine mountains, but Portland wins hands down. Within 2 hours from Portland you can get to the coast, Mountains, Desert, etc.

Portland’s landscape is also more diverse compared to Seattle and it’s way easier to drive out of Portland compared to Seattle. In Seattle you’re stuck in traffic in almost any direction.

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u/Entropy012 — 1 day ago

I have a few job offers and relocation available. What city would you recommend given my situation?

I currently live in Indianapolis but after much consideration my fiance and I want to move away. The cold is so overwhelming at times, family can be too overbearing/drama, and quite frankly we need a change in scenery.

Two weeks ago I put in some applications and received a few job offers in these cities -- Seattle, Las Vegas, and Salt Lake City. The Vegas job pays the most and after doing a bunch of research, our money would go the furthest there but im skeptical of living in Vegas even though some of the suburbs look incredible and have so many amenities/affordability.

Scenery wise, Seattle and SLC are the most striking but are absurdly expensive. Id be taking a 15k paycut in SLC and a 20k paycut in Seattle so im a bit torn on that. I guess what im asking for is advice. My fiance and I will be making roughly 125k in LV, SLC around 110k, and Seattle 105k.

We enjoy sports and would love to attend games and love hiking/food. So should I take the Vegas offer since it pays the most? Im just concerned that my family and I will never "fit" in and the education system is apparently pretty bad. SLC and Seattle im worried ill be bottom middle class and with the housing disparity I dont think we'd ever be able to afford to buy a house at least not for a while.

Any advice?

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u/RushPrime — 16 hours ago
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Risky move?

Considering moving to Germany (Chancenkarte) – is this too risky?

TL;DR:
American with ~3+ years IT experience, associate’s degree, ~$50k savings now + ~$80k more expected soon, B1–B2 German, considering Germany via Chancenkarte with housing option. Previously fully relocated to the Middle East (with dog). Also aware some Germans recommend against moving there.
Too risky without a bachelor’s, or worth trying?

I’m an American considering moving to Germany and looking for honest input.
I have visited Germany and neighboring countries quite a few times over the last 10 years and have friends there.

I recently lived abroad for several months—I fully relocated to the Middle East (sold my car, got rid of most of my stuff, brought my dog which was chaos) and hadn’t planned on coming back—so I understand what’s involved with moving internationally.

I’ve also seen a surprising number of Germans, both online and in person, moving to the U.S. who said Germany isn’t bad, but wouldn’t recommend moving there. I understand everyone has different experiences and priorities.

My situation:

  • Associate’s degree in Network & System Administration
  • IT experience:
    • Sysadmin/Helpdesk – 2 years
    • NOC Tech – 1 year
    • Server Tech – 3 months
  • German ~B1–B2 (no certificate yet)
  • Non-EU citizen
  • ~$50k savings currently, with an additional ~$80k expected within the next 8–10 months
  • Small dog

Housing option near Frankfurt through someone I know.

Planning to use the Chancenkarte and find work there. I’ll get a language certificate before or shortly after moving.

I’m aware of issues (layoffs, energy costs, taxes), but I value quality of life and work-life balance over maximizing income.

Main concerns:

  • No bachelor’s degree
  • Competing with EU candidates
  • Financial risk without a job lined up
  • Whether taxes/insurance make Germany more expensive overall

I’m currently looking for either an Ausbildung or IT work (ideally remote so I don’t have to leave my dog alone or with a sitter).

Questions:

  • Is this too risky as a non-EU candidate in my situation?
  • Should I get a bachelor’s first, or is experience/certs enough?
  • Does this move make sense financially long-term?

Main question:
Is this worth trying, or a bad idea right now?

My Zeugnisbewertung states

https://preview.redd.it/j0j994htodwg1.png?width=989&format=png&auto=webp&s=703de80a6bea6aaf61a7e8dc8cf60d1396c46afc

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u/user081 — 13 hours ago

Relocation Back East?

I am a 46 year old single gay white male who is looking for some relocation advice!

-My life journey => RI => AZ => Los Angeles => Tacoma WA for the past 11 years. I own a home that would sell for a sizable margin.

-Flexibility to keep my job and work remotely.

I got out of a relationship about four years ago (which started not too long after first moving here). Ever since, I feel that I am struggling to find friends and connection and feel like life is just speeding by.

- I am considering Chicago, Philly, NYC given walkability, restaurants, events, community and dating pool. I would consider elsewhere but I don’t think anywhere on the West Coast will feel much different from my journey up to this point (transient, Seattle freeze, etc.)

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u/Ok_Abbreviations_917 — 3 hours ago
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My top cities that I’ve lived in

San Francisco

Chicago

Sacramento

Providence

New York City

Philadelphia

Houston

DC

I can answer any question to the best of my ability

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u/Caveman_man — 1 day ago

Considering moving to Richmond, VA after 7 years living in Mexico

Hello - my wife (62) and I (57) are originally from San Francisco. We retired in 2019 and moved to Mexico, but we’re ready for a change and are planning a return to the US, and Richmond is on our shortlist of cities to consider.

We visited once briefly 20+ years ago and liked it, so I’m hoping to get a better sense of what it’s like to live there now.

Which neighborhoods should we be focusing on? Walkability is important to us - we like to walk for exercise and would prefer an area where bars, restaurants, and local shops are within about a 20 minute walk. Based on some initial research, The Fan, Museum District, and Church Hill seem like good fits, although we’re not big fans of row houses. Are there other neighborhoods we should consider? Our budget is around $700k for a home.

A few other questions:

  • How is healthcare quality and access? Any hospitals or medical groups you’d recommend?
  • What are the biggest pros and cons of living in Richmond (utilities, insurance, public transit, safety, etc.)?
  • Anything you wish you had known before moving?

We’re planning to visit in the fall for a week or two to explore in person.

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u/I_reddit_like_this — 18 hours ago

Are there walkable, mild weather, AND close to nature spots in the US (that are actually affordable)? Am I looking for a unicorn.

I’m feeling quite indecisive. Spent the last hour looking at Zillow, and feel no closer to figuring out where might be a good spot to move.

After years of moving around quite a bit and never feeling quite at home, in my later 20s I’m finally trying to take seriously that I need to start finding somewhere to settle.

I’ve lived in a few different states during my life, and visited countless cities across the US, but no place I’ve been really felt like home. After a year of living in my current city to be close to family, I’m finally realizing I need to move. It’s quite a small town in the mid west, cold winters, and the closest city with community is an hour away. Hoping to find that long term spot to settle down, and build community.

I absolutely love the outdoors, living a healthy lifestyle, so access to trails, somewhere I can bike for 50% of the week, nature and good local produce would be such a dream! I’m also someone who doesn’t do well in long cold winters. Snow 2-3 times a year is fine, but weeks on end of below freezing, and days where I can’t leave the house due to feet of snow is a no go.

Oh and trees, beautiful big green trees, I’ve found make me SO HAPPY.

Anyway, does somewhere like this even exist? Or do I need to lower my expectations? For those of you looking to move somewhere new, where do you even begin?

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u/Solid_Poet_ — 1 day ago