u/CoffeeKeyDog

I am a 270 recruiter. I work for a 4 person agency in a fairly niche area of financial services.

My boss brings in new clients/jobs, these jobs then get assigned to the team, I handle the search, relationships with hiring managers/HR/talent teams etc, just not really any new BD.

I am keen to start building my own book. Job flow seems to be slowing down, and we've got multiple people working on the same searches right now.

We are a WFH business and I am not getting much advice on this from my colleagues. The directive is "just fill the jobs we have" - but they feel like shitty jobs and I am not convinced that the current flow of work is giving me the runway to achieve what I want to achieve.

What does business development actually look like for you? As in- what do you actually do? How much time do you assign to BD per day/week? How many calls? How do you warm up those calls? How do you show value? What sort of questions do you ask to draw out pain points?

I am struggling with 1) coming up with how to differentiate and 2) how to actually structure this as a workflow over a long period of time.

Particularly keen to hear from people who work in white collar/finance/highly bureaucratic sectors.

Any advice appreciated.

I guess I am looking for advice from guys who weren't doing too great who then went on to do quite well.

I am about to turn 30, and I know I am surely a lot younger than a lot of people in here, but I feel like I am having an "oh shit, I've got to get moving" moment.

The first 9 years of my career have been fairly underwhelming. I work in a financial services sales type role in a sleepy small company. I have been able to get by on pretty poor numbers, just ticking over and doing just enough.

But now doing just enough is becoming incredibly difficult as I become more and more bored. I am keen to move to a different company, but working in a sales role you're judged on your numbers. I know that in a different environment I could do well, but I just don't know to sell myself based on my poor track record.

Just feeling like I have let myself down a bit (quite a lot). I have good skills, I am capable, I have just languished and clearly I have sleep walked in to a bad few years.

How did you climb out?

29M, moved to east London in January

I’ll be going to Maruja at EartH in Dalston in June. Currently it’s a solo mission, but if anyone fancies coming along just let me know!

If you’re in to heavier/alternative music check em out

Looking for recommendations that are alternative/indie/rock/electronic or whatever.

Recently I’ve been trying to get in to “newer” music, but I’m open to anything from years gone by.

I’m broadly interested in anything in the slightly alternative bracket. Some of these are more pop-rock than others, but to give you an idea of what I’ve been like recently…

Black Midi
My new band believe
Amyl and the sniffers
Get down services
Squid
Viagra boys
Just mustard
King Krule
Dean Blunt
Black Country new Road
Maruja
Wet leg
Geese/Cameron Winter
Wunderhorse
Fontaines DC
Fcukers

Looking for recommendations that are alternative/indie/rock/electronic or whatever.

Recently I’ve been trying to get in to “newer” music, but I’m open to anything from years gone by.

I’m broadly interested in anything in the slightly alternative bracket. Some of these are more pop-rock than others, but to give you an idea of what I’ve been like recently…

Black Midi
My new band believe
Amyl and the sniffers
Get down services
Squid
Viagra boys
Just mustard
King Krule
Dean Blunt
Black Country new Road
Maruja
Wet leg
Geese/Cameron Winter
Wunderhorse
Fontaines DC
Fcukers

I ran London yesterday and it’s fair to say I had a pretty bad day.

I was aiming for a sub 3:30, and after a reasonable 4 month block and 1:36 B race half marathon in early March, this felt like a reasonable goal.

I came through half way in 1:46. This was a bit behind schedule, but I thought “ok, it’s a bit hot, there was loads of traffic and I was probably in the wrong wave. But this seems to have cleared now and I’ve got open road to run in. Close out the second half strong and I might still have a chance at getting close or dipping under 3:30”.

My legs felt fine, fuel was going down well, and I felt controlled enough despite a fair bit of weaving because of traffic. I was confident for the race ahead.

Then a weird feeling came over me from 22-25k, legs still felt fine but effort increased and I lost 10-15 seconds per KM. This was a stark change from how I felt mere minutes earlier.

Then *it happened* - a cramping (?), spasm (?), stitch (!?) came out of nowhere - Basically like a stabbing pain on the upper/slightly right side of my stomach, on to my ribs.

I very quickly had to stop running and basically walk/ran to the finish line to a 4:10. It was a long long day for me.

I’ve never experienced anything like this. It didn’t feel like a GI issue, as it was in the wrong part of the body and fuel had been going in well.

That area of my ribs feels slightly tender today.

Anyone got any ideas? And if you’ve had it happen, what did you do to stop it happening in future races?