u/Background_Touch3813

What would you consider a cheese strat?

A lot of people consider anything they lose to as "cheese" to make themselves feel better,but what would you say is actually a cheese strat?

Are all unusual picks in toplane cheese picks? Maybe unusual rune and item setups are cheese strats, like old e max nasus .

Is a strong lvl1 champ like darius or olaf standing in the 3rd bush waiting for you to step up cheese, or is it just them using their lvl1 advantage?

Does it have to do with how easy something is , how much counterplay does it have, or just how often you encounter it? Maybe all 3?

I am asking because back when i played overwatch we would only refer to something as cheese if its purpose was to catch the enemy by surprise , while under normal circumstances it wouldn't be that powerful. In lol it seems people refer to everything as "cheesy"

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u/Background_Touch3813 — 18 hours ago

In what matchups do you guys buy this piece of crap?

https://preview.redd.it/kxaslclgmxzg1.jpg?width=225&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4550db435e5f6c8dec0d86040235f16604938faf

3300 total cost for a 97% gold efficiency item with an unneeded passive and a lackluster active and brutal combine cost of 750.

Trinity is more gold efficient , less cost, keeps phage passive, combine cost is none and the spellblade effect is insane on darius, he literally has the 2nd highest base ad in the game (technically 3rd if you count mega gnar). It also allows you to splitpush way better and it actually scales into the late game.

Spojin provides insane ults and really good damage in sustained fights. After 16 this item shines with 2k true damage ults, and even before that it's still really good and cheaper than stride

Ghostblade gives you combat mobility, a good active and good roaming while being a very decent spike. It basically covers the "anti kite" item role even better than stride

Stride can be good in some matchups where spacing is important, like jax or sett. There the active is actually useful. But i still see no reason to buy this crap. Also although the combine cost is 750 (which is already too high for such an expensive item) , the actual combine cost, the one where you actually get some value over, is 1250 since tiamat is gold wasted on darius.

Stride is this expensive because it is supposed to give champions with no waveclear,waveclear and this is how this price is justified, same with titanic and ravenous btw. It basically gives you more income when completed , but this is straight up not the case for darius. His waveclear is innately good and he doesn't need any more, in fact he lacks single target dps(canon minions, gromps,towers etc) more than anything so trinity actually probably saves you more time and gives you more income. This item just seems pointless on darius

Is there any situation you guys are buying this and being happy that you bought this instead of another item??

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u/Background_Touch3813 — 6 days ago