Nothing huge, just a plot idea for Saw XI (Possible spoilers if you haven't seen Saw 4-X)
Disclaimer: has nothing to do with the GOAT u/Vinc360 and his amazing screenplay. This is 100% separate and not related. his screenplay is here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/saw/comments/1ofehom/saw_xi_a_fan_finale_by_me_vinc360_the_full_script/
Since saw 2 till X we have had a total of 4 confirmed Jigsaw apprentices and 1 copycat, those being
- Amanda Young
- Mark Hoffman
- Dr. Lawrence Gordon
- Logan Nelson
- William Schenk (Spiral guy)
Amanda's dead and Hoffman is presumed to be as well after saw 7, which still leaves 3 active Jigsaw inspired people running about. For Saw XI, I would love to see this expanded upon.
My idea is that the film takes place after the events of Spiral, with William escaping and planning to continue killing corrupt police officers, with the movie possibly having Zeke somehow caught and put in a trap to kill off the god awful character. The body is found in the same county as Logan and brought to his morgue, presuming he still has his job since no one knows about his connection to Jigsaw yet. Knowing well he did not do this, he gets in contact with Dr. Gordon (who he should know of, seeing as Logan is the "first" apprentice timeline wise) and the two kidnap and place William in a trap so he can undergo his test to become a true apprentice to John instead of a cheap knockoff. The police also reveal annotated blueprints of future tests left after the raid from the end of spiral.
William awakens in the trap, facing a monitor that reveals Billy giving him the rules; accept John's philosophy or die. He tells William the key around his neck does not unlock the mechanisms attached to his forearms and shins, but to his eventual escape should he follow the rules. Each device is siphoning blood to a container on his back, and when it becomes full it will trigger the device on his back, exploding his torso. To proceed to the end, he must don the pig persona and test 3 people deserving of John's code that are not corrupt police officers.
With the background/main trap established, the police storyline could follow up on the disappearance of Hoffman and them believing Hoffman and William were working together to kill police/authority members since that was Hoffman's M.O. (Riggs, Eric, Strahm, Perez, Gibson) as well as William's. This leads the police to try and track down Hoffman, who is dead in the bathroom, keeping Logan and Gordon clear of suspicion.
Eleanor (crazy jigsaw obsessed lady from jigsaw) recognizes Dr. Gordon in the morgue from Bobby Dagen's recording of the jigsaw survivor group, and seeing how close he is to a jigsaw victim and Logan, she deduces he might be involved, wondering why a cancer specialist is interested in a jigsaw murder. She also secretly returns to the barn from Jigsaw and notices the collar Logan wore was a fake, confirming her suspicions. This leads to her going to her car and being abducted by 2 Pigs.
William completes his test, forcing him to learn John's philosophy instead of using it as a front to kill police. He is then presented with a final choice, two doors and the need to choose between who should be tested next, Gary: someone who does not appreciate life, or Simon: a corrupt police chief.
William chooses the other person, and the door on the left opens. (Zepp starts) He goes through the door to be met with Gordon and Logan. Logan deactivates the device on William with a remote control, welcoming him as an official apprentice. They then offer him his first test as an official associate, the only one who knows of the connections between Logan, Gordon, and Jigsaw: Eleanor. She is strung up in an elaborate test, a design found in the police raid of William's makeshift headquarters (location of final confrontation from Spiral). Gordon then reveals his two pig associates from saw 7, the two guys from the public execution trap, who were the two behind grabbing Eleanor, as well a showing Gordon and John watching the public execution trap in the crowd, with John giving Gordon approval and praise for his ingenuity.
It also cuts to Gordon and Logan meeting for the first time before the events of Jigsaw, with Gordon telling him he knows everything (since Logan is the one that screwed up his x rays, Lawrence might have known him at the hospital.) Gordon then shows him a newspaper article about the Jigsaw copy cat (from Spiral) and the two agree to test William.
The police, still searching for Hoffman, discover the saw 1 bathroom and find Hoffman's body there, leading them to realize someone else is behind this. It cuts to Logan pressing the button to free William, then Logan checking a monitor and pressing the button that reveals Eleanor. It then cuts back to the police in the bathroom as c4 begins to beep and detonate, destroying the building and the bathroom within, as well as killing all of the officers inside.
The movie ends with William telling Eleanor: "I want to play a game."
just a concept because I love the multiple apprentices working together as one rather than fighting for control of John's Legacy. What do you guys think? I really wish they would wrap up the story one apprentice before introducing a new one or just using John but before Saw or between saw 1 and 2, etc. I want the story to move foreword, not keep trying to shoehorn more stuff into the backstory.
suggestion sand changes are welcome. so is criticism of course.