u/Acceptable-Neat1929

Let me start out with some context we’re both (25m) his name is chud (obv disguised) & We met back in 6th grade, we instantly clicked. From the day we met, we talked pretty much every day he was my only friend until Joe came along about 2–3 years later and we all became a clique, we kept in touch & remained close friends for 14+ years all the way up until about a week before all of this happened. We had been through everything together. He was my best friend literally. He stayed at my house for weeks, sometimes even months at a time, and he became part of the family. Everyone in my family loved him And knew him, he was over at my parents house a lot. even when i moved out of state a few years ago he’d still frequently go over to my house & hang out with the family (I have a large family with my youngest sibling being 6yo & he has a daughter around that age) so him hanging out with my mom alone or being over at my parents house without me is nothing out of the ordinary & like I said my mom loved him and considered him a son to her.

That’s why this whole situation completely blindsided both me and my mom. Before this, he had never done anything like this toward my family or my mom, and there had never been any issues between them. This shit came completely out of left field. I had always looked up to him prior to this I watched him struggle throughout his teenage years And still manage to make something of himself despite numerous hardships, he’s a smart guy he’s funny, he’s an “influencer” 500,000+ followers, overall he just seemed like a level headed individual

Recently, though, he had started doing some questionable stuff. He started drinking a lot and going through alot of shit with his girlfriend, getting into fist fights with his other friends, But Since none of it directly involved me, and because he was my best friend, I ignored a lot of the red flags and took his side whenever I heard stories about him.

A few weeks ago, I was on FaceTime with another one of my former best friends (the same one from earlier that I grew up with, Joe) & While we were on the phone , he was telling me about something that had just happened at chuds house. I guess They had all been drinking and hanging out with Chuds girlfriend and some of her friends & Apparently, at some point Chud started acting really weird toward his girlfriend’s friends When she left the room. He was telling them he wanted to have sex things with them, putting his face in their laps, and just generally making everyone feel uncomfortable. until Eventually, his girlfriend overheard, came back in the room & (rightfully so) started cussing him out, they argued & then she left to take the girls home. Chud goes to take a shower

While Joe was telling me this story he was waiting for his Uber inside Chuds dining room. In the midst of him telling me about the creepy shit chud just did, Chud walks out of the shower completely naked, stops for about five seconds staring directly at him, and then walks away without saying anything, both me and Joe sat there looking at eachother like “wtf just happened” & Joe immediately walks out of the house and waits outside

That was the first moment where I really started realizing something was off about Chud but whenever we confronted him about it the next day he kinda just shrugged it off and blamed it on the alcohol & we just did the same.

Fast forward to last week, I’m at my house & Chuds hanging out with my mom, joe & joes girlfriend at my parents house, they’re having a barbecue drinking a few beers but nobody is “drunk”. they’re all standing on the back porch and Chud just whips his dick out & leaves it exposed for a few seconds, my mom sees it & calls him out in front of everyone (it’s dark outside & Chud is a dark skinned male I feel like that’s necessary to include because Maaayyybe? My mom saw something wrong) but anyways she calls him out, he denies it, joe and his girlfriend didn’t see it so everyone just kind of shrugs it off. My just mom’s crazy.

Why she didn’t just kick him the hell out immediately after witnessing that? I don’t know I told her she should have kicked him out right then but she told me “I’ve seen guys expose themselves all my life, that shit don’t scare me, I drive trucks for a living in downtown I saw worse last week I was more shocked than anything” no one believes her so she lets it go. Everyone moves on & decides they want more beer. Chud says “I’m good to drive” so everyone starts to get in Chuds car & go to the store, at some point Joe and his girlfriend decide that they’re going to stay back so now only my mom and Chud are going to the store.

on the way to the store Chud starts confessing his love to my mom saying things like “I’ve wanted you for a long time” “are you sure you don’t want this” “ nobody has to know” while gripping/fondling his exposed genitals. as he’s doing this my mom is actively turning down his advances & asking him wtf is wrong with him and telling him to take her home NOW, eventually he turns the car around before getting even close to the store and pulls back up at the house. as they approach the house he asks her if they can just keep this between them, she says no & instantly gets out of the car to tell Joe and his girlfriend what just happened (they’re sitting on the front porch) & after she tells them they just sit there with blank expressions on their faces seemingly in shock as if they don’t know what to say, as this is happening Chud gets out of the car walks over & just stands there and says “that didn’t happen” a few times and then runs back to his car and drives away. After that my mom try’s to further explain to joe & his girlfriend what just happened & Joe just keeps saying “i don’t know what to believe” & eventually ends up siding with chud.

immediately after this happens my mom calls me and tells me this exact story and I honestly believed everything that she said (she didn’t sound drunk at all, even when I talked to Chud he admitted that nobody was drunk, no slurring her words, her story remained consistent throughout the multiple times she told it to me)

so I instantly tried to call Chud and ask him what the actual fuck is going on in his head right now but he didn’t answer so I texted him and of course he denied it, but after dealing with this guy for 14+ the tone of his message didn’t even sound believable to me to the smallest extent, it just looked to me like it had “IM LYING” written all over it and I know that may sound like I’m just being biased af & I might be but I feel like I know my best friend and that shit just seemed off.. it was almost eerie like I wasn’t even talking to the same person, lately his whole demeanor just seems off, I grew up with him. & he didn’t even try that hard to deny it he just said “ask Joe that shit didn’t happen” & then tried to gaslight me & got offended that i believed my own mother instead of him. Like wtf?? She had absolutely no reason to make up a lie like that about him she’s given this man money, food, shelter, for 14+ years they were on good terms everyone was having fun, there was no motive so of course I took my moms side & instantly cut him off & called him a creep. I’m not going to let him feel like he can make me question my own mother’s credibility when it comes to an allegation of this magnitude.

After I made it clear to him that I didn’t believe a word he said he said and started calling him out for being a pervert he left me on delivered & im assuming he showed Joe, because after that Joe messaged me basically threatening to hurt me if I told everyone what Chud did to my mom. I promptly told him fuck you too bitch I’m not scared of you or chud we can do whatever you want to do buddy.. I haven’t heard from Joe or Chud since. I went and told Chuds now ex girlfriend (they broke up because of what he did to her friends) & chuds baby’s mother about it & neither of them were surprised. That kind of solidified the gut feeling I had about Chud and made me a lil more comfortable with cutting off my two best friends without thinking twice or digging too deep. So my question is AITAH or did I make the right decision, those were my closest friends & I really hate to lose them because I know I’m never ever going to be as close to anyone as I was to them ever again, it actually really fucks me up & makes me want to cry because I don’t have a lot of meaningful relationships in my life & it’s really hard for me to make friends because I am such an introvert I didn’t plan on making any new friends because I thought I had already had mine so this really hurts but I’d be a coward if I ever shook hands with them again after what they put my mom through.

It really pisses me off because of the way that chud seemed so offended when he realized that i believed my mom and not him, it made me feel really bad for my mom because joe already turned on her and didn’t believe her & he claimed to be ride or die for my mom, she used to hold him on a higher pedestal than me even though he’s not her blood & I was fine with that because he took care off my family when I moved away. it really hurt her when he took Chuds side especially after Chud had just exposed himself to Joe just days prior to my mom accusing Chud of this, so she cut Joe off and said she can’t believe that he would betray her like that after she basically raised him & I feel her, that shits absolutely insane I honestly thought he had better judgement than that but I was wrong.

Sorry if I missed some details I’m off of 3 edibles and I suck at writing, also I’ve never made a Reddit post so go easy on me. anyways thanks for reading, any advice greatly is appreciated sorry this is so long I kind of got carried away.

Let me start out with some context we’re both (25m) his name is chud (obv disguised) & We met back in 6th grade, we instantly clicked. From the day we met, we talked pretty much every day he was my only friend until Joe came along about 2–3 years later and we all became a clique, we kept in touch & remained close friends for 14+ years all the way up until about a week before all of this happened. We had been through everything together. He was my best friend literally. He stayed at my house for weeks, sometimes even months at a time, and he became part of the family. Everyone in my family loved him And knew him, he was over at my parents house a lot. even when i moved out of state a few years ago he’d still frequently go over to my house & hang out with the family (I have a large family with my youngest sibling being 6yo & he has a daughter around that age) so him hanging out with my mom alone or being over at my parents house without me is nothing out of the ordinary & like I said my mom loved him and considered him a son to her.

That’s why this whole situation completely blindsided both me and my mom. Before this, he had never done anything like this toward my family or my mom, and there had never been any issues between them. This shit came completely out of left field. I had always looked up to him prior to this I watched him struggle throughout his teenage years And still manage to make something of himself despite numerous hardships, he’s a smart guy he’s funny, he’s an “influencer” 500,000+ followers, overall he just seemed like a level headed individual

Recently, though, he had started doing some questionable stuff. He started drinking a lot and going through alot of shit with his girlfriend, getting into fist fights with his other friends, But Since none of it directly involved me, and because he was my best friend, I ignored a lot of the red flags and took his side whenever I heard stories about him.

A few weeks ago, I was on FaceTime with another one of my former best friends (the same one from earlier that I grew up with, Joe) & While we were on the phone , he was telling me about something that had just happened at chuds house. I guess They had all been drinking and hanging out with Chuds girlfriend and some of her friends & Apparently, at some point Chud started acting really weird toward his girlfriend’s friends When she left the room. He was telling them he wanted to have sex things with them, putting his face in their laps, and just generally making everyone feel uncomfortable. until Eventually, his girlfriend overheard, came back in the room & (rightfully so) started cussing him out, they argued & then she left to take the girls home. Chud goes to take a shower

While Joe was telling me this story he was waiting for his Uber inside Chuds dining room. In the midst of him telling me about the creepy shit chud just did, Chud walks out of the shower completely naked, stops for about five seconds staring directly at him, and then walks away without saying anything, both me and Joe sat there looking at eachother like “wtf just happened” & Joe immediately walks out of the house and waits outside

That was the first moment where I really started realizing something was off about Chud but whenever we confronted him about it the next day he kinda just shrugged it off and blamed it on the alcohol & we just did the same.

Fast forward to last week, I’m at my house & Chuds hanging out with my mom, joe & joes girlfriend at my parents house, they’re having a barbecue drinking a few beers but nobody is “drunk”. they’re all standing on the back porch and Chud just whips his dick out & leaves it exposed for a few seconds, my mom sees it & calls him out in front of everyone (it’s dark outside & Chud is a dark skinned male I feel like that’s necessary to include because Maaayyybe? My mom saw something wrong) but anyways she calls him out, he denies it, joe and his girlfriend didn’t see it so everyone just kind of shrugs it off. My just mom’s crazy.

Why she didn’t just kick him the hell out immediately after witnessing that? I don’t know I told her she should have kicked him out right then but she told me “I’ve seen guys expose themselves all my life, that shit don’t scare me, I drive trucks for a living in downtown I saw worse last week I was more shocked than anything” no one believes her so she lets it go. Everyone moves on & decides they want more beer. Chud says “I’m good to drive” so everyone starts to get in Chuds car & go to the store, at some point Joe and his girlfriend decide that they’re going to stay back so now only my mom and Chud are going to the store.

on the way to the store Chud starts confessing his love to my mom saying things like “I’ve wanted you for a long time” “are you sure you don’t want this” “ nobody has to know” while gripping/fondling his exposed genitals. as he’s doing this my mom is actively turning down his advances & asking him wtf is wrong with him and telling him to take her home NOW, eventually he turns the car around before getting even close to the store and pulls back up at the house. as they approach the house he asks her if they can just keep this between them, she says no & instantly gets out of the car to tell Joe and his girlfriend what just happened (they’re sitting on the front porch) & after she tells them they just sit there with blank expressions on their faces seemingly in shock as if they don’t know what to say, as this is happening Chud gets out of the car walks over & just stands there and says “that didn’t happen” a few times and then runs back to his car and drives away. After that my mom try’s to further explain to joe & his girlfriend what just happened & Joe just keeps saying “i don’t know what to believe” & eventually ends up siding with chud.

immediately after this happens my mom calls me and tells me this exact story and I honestly believed everything that she said (she didn’t sound drunk at all, even when I talked to Chud he admitted that nobody was drunk, no slurring her words, her story remained consistent throughout the multiple times she told it to me)

so I instantly tried to call Chud and ask him what the actual fuck is going on in his head right now but he didn’t answer so I texted him and of course he denied it, but after dealing with this guy for 14+ the tone of his message didn’t even sound believable to me to the smallest extent, it just looked to me like it had “IM LYING” written all over it and I know that may sound like I’m just being biased af & I might be but I feel like I know my best friend and that shit just seemed off.. it was almost eerie like I wasn’t even talking to the same person, lately his whole demeanor just seems off, I grew up with him. & he didn’t even try that hard to deny it he just said “ask Joe that shit didn’t happen” & then tried to gaslight me & got offended that i believed my own mother instead of him. Like wtf?? She had absolutely no reason to make up a lie like that about him she’s given this man money, food, shelter, for 14+ years they were on good terms everyone was having fun, there was no motive so of course I took my moms side & instantly cut him off & called him a creep. I’m not going to let him feel like he can make me question my own mother’s credibility when it comes to an allegation of this magnitude.

After I made it clear to him that I didn’t believe a word he said he said and started calling him out for being a pervert he left me on delivered & im assuming he showed Joe, because after that Joe messaged me basically threatening to hurt me if I told everyone what Chud did to my mom. I promptly told him fuck you too bitch I’m not scared of you or chud we can do whatever you want to do buddy.. I haven’t heard from Joe or Chud since. I went and told Chuds now ex girlfriend (they broke up because of what he did to her friends) & chuds baby’s mother about it & neither of them were surprised. That kind of solidified the gut feeling I had about Chud and made me a lil more comfortable with cutting off my two best friends without thinking twice or digging too deep. So my question is Am I Overreacting or did I make the right decision, those were my closest friends & I really hate to lose them because I know I’m never ever going to be as close to anyone as I was to them ever again, it actually really fucks me up & makes me want to cry because I don’t have a lot of meaningful relationships in my life & it’s really hard for me to make friends because I am such an introvert I didn’t plan on making any new friends because I thought I had already had mine so this really hurts but I’d be a coward if I ever shook hands with them again after what they put my mom through.

It really pisses me off because of the way that chud seemed so offended when he realized that i believed my mom and not him, it made me feel really bad for my mom because joe already turned on her and didn’t believe her & he claimed to be ride or die for my mom, she used to hold him on a higher pedestal than me even though he’s not her blood & I was fine with that because he took care off my family when I moved away. it really hurt her when he took Chuds side especially after Chud had just exposed himself to Joe just days prior to my mom accusing Chud of this, so she cut Joe off and said she can’t believe that he would betray her like that after she basically raised him & I feel her, that shits absolutely insane I honestly thought he had better judgement than that but I was wrong.

Sorry if I missed some details I’m off of 3 edibles and I suck at writing, also I’ve never made a Reddit post so go easy on me. anyways thanks for reading, any advice greatly is appreciated sorry this is so long I kind of got carried away.