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Ever wondered of the day humanoid begins to think, independently?

Ever wondered of the day humanoid begins to think, independently?

What do you think would happen when humanoid begins to think independently?

Right now humanoids & robots do think yes, but mechanically; they have to be prompted to think. Its however quite likely in the not too distant future, these new arrivals will begin to think on their own. If that happens, the relationship between man & humanoid/robot would change dramatically. Imagine walking into your office & finding your deployed humanoid/s making a decision over the future of your business & concluding, willy-nilly, you be fired from the business. How will you go about that? They have access to everything in the business including the ability to shut it off.

Also, can you imagine situations in which humanoids are conscious, & can make decisions on their own although their consciousness wouldn't be comparable to that of human? Doesn't that scare?

What damages would they be able to inflict on anything, for instance, as independent thinkers?

Obviously the consciousness may not translates into humanoids knowing what they are or that a human being is a living breathing being unlike they, or that some decisions they make are wrong. But because they are conscious at a different level, they would be in position to do all they could, including taking wrong actions just because the perfect alternative does not exist. And isn't this how AI can lie anyways, not because it wants to, but because the proper answer to a question isn't in the LLM & so AI zeros-in on to the next best alternative?

The thoughts of humanoids being conscious & able to think and make decisions on their own should scare everyone. Just think about it for a second. You walk into a place & find a humanoid lost in thoughts. You have no idea what its next move would be; its train of thoughts are proceeding normally like the train of thoughts of a human being sitting somewhere & thinking deeply. But you have no clue as to what it is thinking about. What would you do?

Would you hit it with a conversation in order to find out about its deep thoughts, hopefully by then they would be in position to converse? Or you would try to stay away from it until it finishes its thoughts first so you can see what actions it takes next?

Your thoughts?

u/69-Kishaaq1 — 6 hours ago

What are humanoids in a workplace? Would they by any chance be qualified as workers?

Humanoids & robots are new arrivals into the workforce.

But its kind of tricky where they belong; do you think they are best classified as workers, or just mere machines?

The classification is critical because if they are workers, then wouldn't they have to pay taxes? Why would a human worker pay taxes but not a humanoid that qualifies as a worker too? Obviously, things would become tricky at this point as humanoids wouldn't be in position to file their tax return.

And if they have to file their tax return, the question becomes, who collects/pays, the amount credited or owing, after a tax assessment for the new class of workers is concluded?

The state or the owner?

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u/69-Kishaaq1 — 24 hours ago

We know AI, humanoids & robots are coming for our jobs; no doubt about that. But would they be coming for our social life too, for just in case the technologies become conscious, which might just become a reality pretty quick?

Your thoughts?

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u/69-Kishaaq1 — 1 day ago
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If Communism failed, & Socialism failed, & Capitalism is failing or has failed, then what really works or would for humanity?

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u/69-Kishaaq1 — 2 days ago

Would you buy a humanoid to look after your aging parents or a disabled person in your home, or its too dicey to have one at home without serious supervision?

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u/69-Kishaaq1 — 2 days ago
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New humanoid robots replacing workers in factories

Humanoids replacing humans from work?

Technologies have always, since the birth of invention, helped humanity progress; but that is because the technologies that were invented thus far were only in aiding humanity in its struggles to conquer its environment, feed itself & live in relative peace and security not just from wild animals, but also from hostile members, including the elements; the technologies were tools for mankind to use in his daily toils for survival, otherwise the tools can lie idle for eternity.

And therefore by so doing, humanity progresses forward, economically. Over the years humanity has accumulated tremendous amount of wealth due to the technologies. Long distances have been conquered, by vehicles, trains, airplanes, & so forth. In the northern cold winter, folks can live in relative safety from harsh weathers; houses and heating systems have made life livable in cold places. People can drive themselves to & from work, sometimes in very terrible weather conditions, relatively safely because of technologies. Farms & industrial machines have gone a long way to churn out foods humanity rely on; talk less of medical & education fields.

The list is long.

So, without technologies, all the above plus more wouldn't have been possible; humanity would have still been hunting & gathering from what nature offers in abundance.

It’s now the era of AI!

Before AI, there was the Internet. However, the Internet was & still is, just like any other machines mankind has built & has been using thus far; just tools to get things done without overworking oneself & also, getting them done faster. AI is not different; AI is also a tool that helps humanity achieve the same goal faster & efficiently. But when AI is packaged into a humanoid or a robot, the reality changes; the AI in a humanoid or robot becomes an independent, autonomous tool capable of performing tasks on its own. All that it needs are the prompts to trigger a humanoid or a robot into action. So, even if human inputs are critical, there is a level of autonomy in these gadgets & that changes everything.

So at this stage, even humanoids & robots are on the one hand, tools, and on the other, autonomous machines capable of performing duties independently though human supervisions are required and at all times. A critical question then arises: Will the state of humanoid & robot change?

It’s highly unlikely the state of these autonomous machines will change; not anytime soon at least, & most definitely never. And this is because humanoids & robots won't ever become conscious. And there isn't anything that can be done to make them conscious! A dog is conscious because it has blood running through its veins & therefore can listen to its owner & can do what its owner commands it to do – within its ability; but cannot hold a conversation. The advantage of a humanoid over a dog however is, the humanoid can perform certain functions that only human can perform, because of its mechanical arms & hands. But at this stage a humanoid cannot hold conversations too just like a dog. But this might change, & that means humanity may in future deals with humanoids capable of holding lengthy conversation even if consciously they wouldn’t, as mere machines trapped in human morphology, know what they maybe conversing about.  

That said however, AI, humanoids and robots’ effects on humanity are quite evidently going to be both negative and positive. Negative in the sense, many jobs will be lost, as the technologies take over a good chunk, driving poverty to a higher level. By losing jobs & lacking incomes, humanity would become worse off. But the technologies also have lots of positives to bring onto the table. For instance, it reduces workloads from the shoulders of humanity – workers becoming less stressed due to workloads. It appears to help speed up inventions of say, new drugs; not only that, surgeries are now, it seems, being performed faster & efficiently; medical diagnosis is easier, faster & efficient too due to AI. We have autonomous driving vehicles on the streets today thanks to AI! That means possibly reduced rate of accident & deaths on the streets due to human errors.

These plus more are the positives of these technologies. But how will the wealth distributions pan out?

Just like technological advances before them, AI, humanoid, & robot, would bring tremendous wealth to humanity. The real beneficiaries however, would most definitely be the owners of these technologies; ordinary man and woman of society wouldn’t benefit unlike in the cases of past inventions like productivity machines: Tractors, Computers, Faxes, printers, industrial conveyor belts, combustion engines, hand held tools, and so forth. These machines could only be used by humans as one performs his/her work; & for those who have access, the machines enable them create wealth. In the case of AI, humanoids & robots that operates independently or autonomously, wealth creation by the technologies would clearly be skewed; the technologies would skyrocket wealth for the rich & powerful on the one hand, and deepen and widen poverty for the poor ordinary man & woman. But, maybe I am wrong in my assessment.

Nonetheless, let me know what you think if you don’t mind.     

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u/69-Kishaaq1 — 3 days ago

Technology and wealth!

Technological development has always brought wealth.

If you go back in history, you would notice this. Each new tachnological milestone has produced trememdous wealth for huamnity; generally, all societies worldwide, one could conclude, benefitted from each & every technology known to man.

Today we have AI, giving birth to humanoids and robots.

My question: Would this new technological milestone produce wealth for all societies? Or there would be the ultra-beneficies and those that would only feed on crumbs of it?

Your thought?

P.S: this is a serious question; So, you need to think through it meticulously, like your life depends on it!

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u/69-Kishaaq1 — 4 days ago

Humanoids specifically, would be living in their own apartments eventually!

Called it a store or whatever you fancy, but don't you think humanoids would need a place to spend their night in?

I am sure those places already exist currently & they are known as warehouses. But as societies advance, don't you agree humanoids would at some point, have to own their own, individual apartment, skeleton as the apartments may be?

First, if there is need to make money, that is one idea that can rake in gazillion dollars! Humanoids residential apartments doesn't sound that bad in the ears of capitalists! Second, I doubt many folks would want to store, nay, live with a humanoid in their house/apartment; for, a wire can snap, or there could be a glitch in the promp into its LLM reservoir & all hell would break lose in the house/apartment.

So, it would be better to have the things live separately in a different, perhaps, their own apartments.

Your thoughts?

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u/69-Kishaaq1 — 6 days ago

Would extensive jobs lost to AI, humanoids & robots trigger reverse migration to the country side from the centres of civilization?

Not sure what you think, but aren't you concerned, extensive job loss by humans to AI, humanoids & robots, would trigger reverse migration from the centres of progress/civilization to the countryside of many if not all nations?

I don't know about you but that is what I think humanity is headed. For, AI, humanoids & robots are here to stay; and the proprietors, realizing the humongous values they bring to their bottom line, would only keep on perfecting them new workers so they can perform more or less like humans & hopefully surpass what human workers actualize in totality. Its an impossible achievement, Yes; but that these things will, over time, become more efficient & effective, even if they would never be in position to operate like humans, is a foregone conclusion.

This means jobs losses will only keep climbing up day by day. Now think about this for a second; you have gainful employment; you bought a house & living your best life. Maybe you have a family. Then all of a sudden layoff hits, and your are told you have hit the end of the road with the company; your service is no longer needed! You are given severance package & your former boss wished you good luck in your future endeavours. What would you do?

Look for another job you have no clue AI is invading too, or perhaps soonest? Start a business you haven't the capital for?

Remember you are not alone in this; lots of other folks would as well be facing the same situation. And soon none of you would be in position to meet your mortgage obligations, triggering foreclosuers. Worse, you wouldn't be able to climb down from owning a home to renting because even renters would be getting eviction notices due to losses of their jobs.

Given the above, the only option of last resort is for all these folks to hit the reverse migration path & hopefully kick-start new economies; that of countryside. You farm what you eat. Whatever produce is in excess, you sell or exchange with your village mates, or take it to the village market.

So I see reverse migration written allover in face of AI, humanoids & robots onslaught.

Your thoughts?

u/69-Kishaaq1 — 7 days ago
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Okay esteemed redditers, few days ago I posed a question on buying vs building one's house. The respnses were truely enlightening. And to be honest, they made me begin to wonder whether it may just be a whole lot better simply renting for the rest of one's life.

The disadvantage of renting however is pretty glaring; for one, you won't be in position to leave something tangible behind for your little ones & grand little ones when that time comes. So to me, debating over building vs buying continues; because leaving merely liquidity & other non-permanent assets for your little ones doesn't make much sense; that is if you happen to be lucky enough to accumulate some wealth.

For the dirt-poor, I guess it doesn't really matter. One can just rent on end till death!

So my question is: Between renting a house/an apartment & buying/building one for yourself & family, which one is a whole lot better?

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u/69-Kishaaq1 — 6 days ago
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How large should LLM be for humanoids to take over jobs?

Just how large should the LLM be for humanoids to be in positions to take over many jobs? With no abilities to reason, I don't see that happening. Some jobs will be lost for sure, no question but huge chunk would remain. Take for instance ems response staff positions. Could humanoids handle the tasks? No! It would be catastrophic!

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u/69-Kishaaq1 — 8 days ago

What is God's views on humannoid?

Forget about Artificial Intelligence for a minute; lets look at humanoid; just the shape. Don't even bother about robots generally.

From the Bible, it is stated, not verbatim, God created humans in its own image. This I believe is true across religions. Now, if indeed God created humans in its image, & today humans have invented humanoids in God's image, my question is:

What is God's views on humanoids?

Your thoughts?

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u/69-Kishaaq1 — 10 days ago
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Would there be a need for prescription medications as at current level in a future world & workforkforce dominated by AI & humanoids/robots?

There are murmurs out there that humanity is way over-medicated; that sicknesses & diseases are through the roof, rampaging at will; and therefore, close to overpowering humanity. Covid19 is a perfect example; we are still reeling with its aftermath. All of these are due, perhaps in parts, to modernity! The more invention, the more modern our world becomes!

We are now in the era of AI & humanoids/robots. Here therefore comes the question: Would there be a need for prescription medications, as at current level, in a future world & workforce, dominated by AI & humanoids/robots?

Your thoughts?

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u/69-Kishaaq1 — 10 days ago

Which path in the house-buying venture is a lot better, saving you tons of money?

Building your own house or buying one that is built already?

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u/69-Kishaaq1 — 11 days ago
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Am yet to find a soul that says poverty is not born by laziness; everyone thus far says if you want to be poor, be lazy!

But is that the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

Why then do you find folks who worked so hard all their life, wasting away in their old age in senior homes, only to be killed by covid, forgotten before then?

If they were rich, would they not be dying in their mansions at home? Or it is their kids making the choices otherwise they are/were filthy rich?

Your thoughts.

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u/69-Kishaaq1 — 11 days ago

AI, Humanoid/robot the last invention?

What else still remain out there for humans to invent? Are AI, humanoid/robot the last frontier of invention?

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u/69-Kishaaq1 — 11 days ago
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Would AI & Humanoids/Robots entrench welfare state around the world?

Musk mooted the idea of UI given the dawn of AI & robots.

Its plain AI is taking over jobs, no question; and it will continue to do so to the point, all jobs that could be performed by AI & humanoids/robots, are fully taken over. This would leave a colossal number of able-bodied workers without jobs throughout the world.

With mass unemployment, it only makes sense that the jobless would have to have some kind of incomes coming in, whether bi-weekly or monthly, to keep the motor of economy running. Without spending, from & by consumers, the economic engine would grind to a halt, everywhere. This means Musk's UI idea is beyond debate; just a policy implementation matter when that time arrives. For, no single nation would be in position to sustain, at the very least, a 50% employment rate.

Lets suppose the most would be 20%(executives, workers in fields AI & humanoids/robots, couldn't perform, &c), that leaves 80% of her population without gainful employment & therefore without incomes.

80% unemployment rate renders any economy instantly obsolete. So the only antidote would be the Musk's UI idea. Now that in itself comes with a whole whack of problems, from freedom, birth rates, what you eat, health, wealth, education, how much a single person or a family receives bi-weekly or monthly as UI, would become front & center on social & political stage.

So, whether you are a policy maker or not, how would you address these issues?

Really would love to hear your thoughts.

u/69-Kishaaq1 — 11 days ago