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I used to think that people were being harsh when they said that many women here are materialistic and they will love you just for the amount of money you have in your bank account or your status until I experienced it myself.

So long story short I liked a girl that was working with me in the same company where we were sitting next to each other and from the start we both showed interest in each other, and she would flirt with me sometimes.

But the connection felt a bit off as time went by, late responses, sometimes not responding and the excuse was always “I was busy”.

There was a guy working with us in a senior position who would always give those dirty, envy, jealousy type of looks whenever we talked to each other, and I understood everything when our manager decided to change where she sits I knew that they were both secretly dating before I joined the company, and I don’t understand why she didn’t simply tell me that from the start.

What made everything clear to me was when they would go together for smoke and coffee breaks, and he did that on purpose so we wouldn’t talk to each other or to show that she’s taken by him, this wasn’t a very smart move from them as our colleagues started gossiping about the whole situation and how weird it is. (He’s older by a good 10+ years, and she’s leagues above him).

One day I texted her and she saw the message and didn’t respond and that was the boiling point for me, I wanted confirmation for everything. So I did what every sensible man would do and told her that I need confirmation as our colleagues are gossiping and whatnot, she got mad about the whole thing and wanted to know everything that our colleagues said I obviously didn’t tell her or else that might have created some serious issues, but she also didn’t respond about some questions I had, she also didn’t answer my question about whether they’re dating and whatnot but it was all clear to me.

Now here’s where I messed up badly, we remained friends despite all this and we were still texting occasionally, but she never smiled when I would see her in person like she did before which made me think maybe she’s holding grudges towards me for not telling her or she simply saw me as a friend and she didn’t like it when she found out that I liked her with her being already in a relationship.

Fast forward holiday season comes where everyone took leave to go back home and see their families and she starts ghosting me, and before everyone came back from leave the company went bankrupt. The ghosting remained and that’s when I decided to cut ties for good.

Months went by and I found out that they both work together in another company.

I used to think that people were being harsh when they said that many women here are materialistic and they will love you just for the amount of money you have in your bank account or your status until I experienced it myself.

So long story short I liked a girl that was working with me in the same company where we were sitting next to each other and from the start we both showed interest in each other but the connection felt a bit off as time went by, late responses, sometimes not responding and the excuse was always “I was busy”.

There was a guy working with us in a senior position who would always give those dirty, envy, jealousy type of looks whenever we talked to each other, and I understood everything when our manager decided to change where she sits I knew that they were both secretly dating before I joined the company, and I don’t understand why she didn’t simply tell me that from the start.

What made everything clear to me was when they would go together for smoke and coffee breaks, and he did that on purpose so we wouldn’t talk to each other or to show that she’s taken by him, this wasn’t a very smart move from them as our colleagues started gossiping about the whole situation and how weird it is. (He’s older by a good 10+ years, and she’s leagues above him).

One day I texted her and she saw the message and didn’t respond and that was the boiling point for me, I wanted confirmation for everything. So I did what every sensible man would do and told her that I need confirmation as our colleagues are gossiping and whatnot, she got mad about the whole thing and wanted to know everything that our colleagues said I obviously didn’t tell her or else that might have created some serious issues, but she also didn’t respond about some questions I had, she also didn’t answer my question about whether they’re dating and whatnot but it was all clear to me.

Now here’s where I messed up badly, we remained friends despite all this and we were still texting occasionally, but she never smiled when I would see her in person like she did before which made me think maybe she’s holding grudges towards me for not telling her or she simply saw me as a friend and she didn’t like it when she found out that I liked her with her being already in a relationship.

Fast forward holiday season comes where everyone took leave to go back home and see their families and she starts ghosting me, and before everyone came back from leave the company went bankrupt. The ghosting remained and that’s when I decided to cut ties for good.

Months went by and I found out that they both work together in another company.

I used to think that people were being harsh when they said that many women here are materialistic and they will love you just for the amount of money you have in your bank account or your status until I experienced it myself.

So long story short I liked a girl that was working with me in the same company where we were sitting next to each other and from the start we both showed interest in each other but the connection felt a bit off as time went by, late responses, sometimes not responding and the excuse was always “I was busy”.

There was a guy working with us in a senior position who would always give those dirty, envy, jealousy type of looks whenever we talked to each other, and I understood everything when our manager decided to change where she sits I knew that they were both secretly dating before I joined the company, and I don’t understand why she didn’t simply tell me that from the start.

What made everything clear to me was when they would go together for smoke and coffee breaks, and he did that on purpose so we wouldn’t talk to each other or to show that she’s taken by him, this wasn’t a very smart move from them as our colleagues started gossiping about the whole situation and how weird it is. (He’s older by a good 10+ years, and she’s leagues above him).

One day I texted her and she saw the message and didn’t respond and that was the boiling point for me, I wanted confirmation for everything. So I did what every sensible man would do and told her that I need confirmation as our colleagues are gossiping and whatnot, she got mad about the whole thing and wanted to know everything that our colleagues said I obviously didn’t tell her or else that might have created some serious issues, but she also didn’t respond about some questions I had, she also didn’t answer my question about whether they’re dating and whatnot but it was all clear to me.

Now here’s where I messed up badly, we remained friends despite all this and we were still texting occasionally, but she never smiled when I would see her in person like she did before which made me think maybe she’s holding grudges towards me for not telling her or she simply saw me as a friend and she didn’t like it when she found out that I liked her with her being already in a relationship.

Fast forward holiday season comes where everyone took leave to go back home and see their families and she starts ghosting me, and before everyone came back from leave the company went bankrupt. The ghosting remained and that’s when I decided to cut ties for good.

Months went by and I found out that they both work together in another company.

I used to think that people were being harsh when they said that many women here are materialistic and they will love you just for the amount of money you have in your bank account or your status until I experienced it myself.

So long story short I liked a girl that was working with me in the same company where we were sitting next to each other and from the start we both showed interest in each other but the connection felt a bit off as time went by, late responses, sometimes not responding and the excuse was always “I was busy”.

There was a guy working with us in a senior position who would always give those dirty, envy, jealousy type of looks whenever we talked to each other, and I understood everything when our manager decided to change where she sits I knew that they were both secretly dating before I joined the company, and I don’t understand why she didn’t simply tell me that from the start.

What made everything clear to me was when they would go together for smoke and coffee breaks, and he did that on purpose so we wouldn’t talk to each other or to show that she’s taken by him, this wasn’t a very smart move from them as our colleagues started gossiping about the whole situation and how weird it is. (He’s older by a good 10+ years, and she’s leagues above him).

One day I texted her and she saw the message and didn’t respond and that was the boiling point for me, I wanted confirmation for everything. So I did what every sensible man would do and told her that I need confirmation as our colleagues are gossiping and whatnot, she got mad about the whole thing and wanted to know everything that our colleagues said I obviously didn’t tell her or else that might have created some serious issues, but she also didn’t respond about some questions I had, she also didn’t answer my question about whether they’re dating and whatnot but it was all clear to me.

Now here’s where I messed up badly, we remained friends despite all this and we were still texting occasionally, but she never smiled when I would see her in person like she did before which made me think maybe she’s holding grudges towards me for not telling her or she simply saw me as a friend and she didn’t like it when she found out that I liked her with her being already in a relationship.

Fast forward holiday season comes where everyone took leave to go back home and see their families and she starts ghosting me, and before everyone came back from leave the company went bankrupt. The ghosting remained and that’s when I decided to cut ties for good.

Months went by and I found out that they both work together in another company.

Finding a partner, a job, the job itself, how society perceives you, jealousy and competition from other men, expectations, these are just a few things I mentioned which women usually have easier than men do.

Let’s start with the first point, finding a partner especially here is hell for a man and this might have to do with the men to women ratio, and social media glaze that both men and women give other women no matter how average or below average they look.

I have nothing against this but it simply creates a chaos in society where a man is not only supposed to be the one who approaches, initiates conversations, chases a women, pays for everything (again I have nothing against this), but to settle for someone below his league to even have a chance.

Moving on to the next point, you have to go through hell as a man here to find proper, decent paying jobs, even though I am aware that both genders suffer a lot to find this here especially without connections and references.

Many or most jobs specify that they’re looking for “female only” but it’s never the other way around, this is seen mostly on platforms such as Indeed and sometimes LI.

Now moving on to the next point which is my experience in the RE industry. In this industry women have it much easier and anyone that says otherwise is lying to themselves, many young women especially ones considered as attractive have it easy in this field and as a result they’re very successful and wealthy from a young age.

My experience in this field was literal hell and it made me regret the day that I even decided to try out this field, if you cold call as a man especially if you sound like a man and not a kid people will immediately hang up, tell you that they’re not interested, or even insult you or report you.

In the cold calling aspect women have it much easier not only with men but with women too.

Regarding the other points I think we all already know them so there’s no need to get into detail about them, I am not looking for any kind of sympathy, I do not have a victim mentality, I am not misogynistic, and I respect women and I understand that life can be harder for women when it comes to some other aspects.

Finding a partner, a job, the job itself, how society perceives you, jealousy and competition from other men, expectations, these are just a few things I mentioned which women usually have easier than men do.

Let’s start with the first point, finding a partner especially here is hell for a man and this might have to do with the men to women ratio, and social media glaze that both men and women give other women no matter how average or below average they look.

I have nothing against this but it simply creates a chaos in society where a man is not only supposed to be the one who approaches, initiates conversations, chases a women, pays for everything (again I have nothing against this), but to settle for someone below his league to even have a chance.

Moving on to the next point, you have to go through hell as a man here to find proper, decent paying jobs, even though I am aware that both genders suffer a lot to find this here especially without connections and references.

Many or most jobs specify that they’re looking for “female only” but it’s never the other way around, this is seen mostly on platforms such as Indeed and sometimes LI.

Now moving on to the next point which is my experience in the RE industry. In this industry women have it much easier and anyone that says otherwise is lying to themselves, many young women especially ones considered as attractive have it easy in this field and as a result they’re very successful and wealthy from a young age.

My experience in this field was literal hell and it made me regret the day that I even decided to try out this field, if you cold call as a man especially if you sound like a man and not a kid people will immediately hang up, tell you that they’re not interested, or even insult you or report you.

In the cold calling aspect women have it much easier not only with men but with women too.

Regarding the other points I think we all already know them so there’s no need to get into detail about them, I am not looking for any kind of sympathy, I do not have a victim mentality, I am not misogynistic, and I respect women and I understand that life can be harder for women when it comes to some other aspects.

Finding a partner, a job, the job itself, how society perceives you, jealousy and competition from other men, expectations, these are just a few things I mentioned which women usually have easier than men do.

Let’s start with the first point, finding a partner especially here is hell for a man and this might have to do with the men to women ratio, and social media glaze that both men and women give other women no matter how average or below average they look.

I have nothing against this but it simply creates a chaos in society where a man is not only supposed to be the one who approaches, initiates conversations, chases a women, pays for everything (again I have nothing against this), but to settle for someone below his league to even have a chance.

Moving on to the next point, you have to go through hell as a man here to find proper, decent paying jobs, even though I am aware that both genders suffer a lot to find this here especially without connections and references.

Many or most jobs specify that they’re looking for “female only” but it’s never the other way around, this is seen mostly on platforms such as Indeed and sometimes LI.

Now moving on to the next point which is my experience in the RE industry. In this industry women have it much easier and anyone that says otherwise is lying to themselves, many young women especially ones considered as attractive have it easy in this field and as a result they’re very successful and wealthy from a young age.

My experience in this field was literal hell and it made me regret the day that I even decided to try out this field, if you cold call as a man especially if you sound like a man and not a kid people will immediately hang up, tell you that they’re not interested, or even insult you or report you.

In the cold calling aspect women have it much easier not only with men but with women too.

Regarding the other points I think we all already know them so there’s no need to get into detail about them, I am not looking for any kind of sympathy, I do not have a victim mentality, I am not misogynistic, and I respect women and I understand that life can be harder for women when it comes to some other aspects.