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The boys and it how it handles male assault and emasculation as a joke

After watching the boys, especially season 4 and season 5, something that has always stuck out to me is just how much the show makes the emasculation, humiliation, or straight up assault of its male characters into a joke. Ranging from the Tek Knight episode, to how it portrays MM, to S5 episode 1 where it literally portrays The Worm as a fat male without a dick for jokes.

What rlly throws me off is how the story treats the suffering, humiliation, or abuse of male characters- they do it in a way that intentionally emasculates them to try and portray them in a way that feels like the show makes you want to see them as lesser. The Worm is a good example as the show literally makes a nerdy male character, who is pushed around and made the butt of a Joke for being an NFSW writer, a fat nerdy male, and annoying to the girls all as a soft or justification for him to be forced into risking his life for Butcher’s plan. And the after that it goes as far as portraying him without a dick as a form of comedy.

It’s insane to me honestly thinking that a man’s lack of genitalia becomes a joke at his expense especially if you look at it the other way around. Not to mention he’s just genuinely portrayed as a disgusting caricature for being a nerdy out of shape guy- even though from the reverse it would spark outrage.

Hughie’s sexual assault was either played for laughs or him getting victim blamed by starlight,MM getting slapped around with a dick was literally played for jokes- yet for female characters their assault, stress, humiliation, seems to be taken incredibly seriously, especially by its producer.

I’m not sure how to word this but it honestly highlights a big issue in the boys but also a Hollywood/issue with a lot of modern left and feminism I’ve noticed as a trans man. Which is that in the struggle to more tastefully and respectfully handle female struggles and issues, and address SA, so much of the time male issues are overlooked or men are often straight up demonized- even by fellow men. Like a reverse of what you’d see back in the day when women would victim blame or shame other women.

It constantly feels like girls are being put in a pedestal or given value just for femininity whilst guys are being put down for essentially not being appealing, directly useful, or being seen as needing to have some redeeming quality just to warrant the respect of a basic human. In media and irl I see the need for a man to have some sort of skill, talent, or redeeming quality just for their issues or struggles to be recognized. It feels disgusting to see shows like Becky’s or so much of modern media and a lot of the left punching down on guys, especially outright body shaming people for stuff they can’t control like genialitia. It’s sad seeing alot of young guys grow up with that as the norm too.

I’m tired and I yapped a lot, but I just feel there’s smthing to be looked into when it comes to a rich guy like Kripke talking about wanting to Portray starlight’s assault as tastefully as possible then portraying Hughie’s assault and male character’s SA as a joke. Or just a lot of the out of touch virtue signaling that would portray a guy getting raped in a kinky way and then put a rich kid’s event like Coachella as smthing a facist government would share down in the same breath. It all feels very disingenuous

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u/JasandJazzier — 7 days ago

My thoughts on the "Girly Bruiser" trope.

I love this trope so freaking much!

It showcases that physical attractive and very feminine characters are just as capable of saving the day or kicking ass just as much as tomboyish characters and their male counterparts.

I love it whenever feminine female characters kick ass in pink, purple, blue, red, green, dresses, skirts, high heels, high-heeled footwear, make-up, fancy-looking hair, and jewelry.

It's so empowering, cool, and badass.

Examples of female characters who are "Girly Bruisers";

Asami Sato from The Legend of Korra.

Padmé Amidala from the Star Wars franchise.

Kimberly Anne Hart from Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers.

Rumi, Mira, and Zoey respectively from K-Pop Demon Hunters.

The Sailor Guardians from the Sailor Moon franchise.

Buffy Summers from Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

Prue, Piper, Phoebe and Paige respectively from Charmed.

Katara, Ty Lee, and Suki respectively from Avatar: The Last Airbender.

Rarity from My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic

Bubbles and Blossom respectively from The Powerpuff Girls.

Glimmer from She-Ra and the Princesses of Power.

Rose Quartz and Pearl respectively from Steven Universe.

Sam, Clover, and Alex respectively from Totally Spies.

Starfire from the 2003 Teen Titans animated series.

The Winx (mainly Stella and Flora) from Winx Club.

u/Full-Art3439 — 4 days ago

Is this even a trope: fantastical anti-fascism/authoritarianism?

Bit non-sense here.

These films feel similar in that they use magic thematically to oppose authoritarianism (specifically fascism in Pinnochio and Porco Roso) in a very direct way.

u/Ranked0wl — 4 days ago

Is this a thing and does it have a name

There's also a Wario one that's almost exactly like this but swirly and now I'm wondering if that's a trope

u/Overlytiredqueerspie — 5 days ago
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On a TV Tropes page Bix is labeled as an example of "chickification". One bit that really stuck out to me was this line:

  “She leaves him and the show, believing that their relationship is distracting him from his true calling, somewhat Justified in this belief as the very last shot of the show lingers on her safely relocated to another planet, standing in a field of wheat holding Cassian's baby, looking disturbingly like a realist propaganda poster from any of several real-life 20th-century regimes.”

What exactly do they mean by this?

u/RogErddit — 8 days ago

We have some serious candidates that need to be added already. Aside from Gabriel and the Entity from Mission: Impossible, there's also Lex Luthor in the 2025 Superman movie, Dan Killian in the 2025 Running Man movie, and Yeagor Draganov from Sisu: Road to Revenge.

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u/Majestic_Assist_9846 — 9 days ago

What is wrong with TvTropes server right now?

I don’t know what is wrong with the TvTropes website on my phone. Every single page I try to search looks like it has been cut in half. I don’t know why the rest of the pages refuses to render.

On my laptop it looks fine. It is only my phone that I can’t see mostly everything. And it doesn’t change no matter how many times I try to refresh it.

u/Extension_Breath1407 — 2 days ago

Trope name for when a revelation causes someone to drive like crazy

I don’t know if there is a trope for such moments in TV shows because I don’t want too give away too much for those who haven’t seen them yet, but I have seen the trope used in Breaking Bad and Money Heist.

In Money Heist’s case, one scene has a guy drive like crazy when he discovers the truth behind the Professor’s identity as it almost causes his death as a result as a similar scene happens in Breaking Bad when a particular character learns about the identity of Heisenberg.

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u/KaleidoArachnid — 3 days ago

This feels like a common trope although I can't recall exactly where I've seen it.

Basically there is a society or civilization of hidden people who prevent those who find them from leaving the hidden place that they live, so no one learns about and discovers them. Important thing is that they don't want to kill the outsiders because they are nice, peaceful and good.

Their actions lead to the "Gilded Cage" Trope.

Edit: One Example is "Twenty Thousand Leagues Under The Sea" by Jules Verne.

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u/Witty-Cockroach-9127 — 10 days ago

There is probably a better way to describe this, but I swear I've seen this happen multiple times and never knew what it was called

Usually the rest of the discussion the characters were having plays out after the dire situation.

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u/Aspookyghooost — 9 days ago

Just curious on what the trope name for a hero of a story who is supposed to be the good guy as the problem is that people ridicule him.

Some examples are Dib from Invader Zim and Almaz from Disgaea 3 because in the game, Almaz gets mocked by Mao for being a hero since Mao hates heroic figures.

Then in Invader Zim’s case, Dib wants to be the savior of mankind by proving how extra terrestrial beings exist as he ends up being ridiculed by his classmates instead.

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u/KaleidoArachnid — 9 days ago

The quickest example that comes to mind is Conquest's "I'm so lonely" monologue to Mark. If you've heard of the tv show the Blacklist, Reddington has a nice one "I'm a violent man" (you can find it on YouTube).

It's where one character confides something deeply personal about themselves to another character who they're about to kill (Whether if they succeed not withstanding). Usually happens between a main character and a side character so if one of them dies it doesn't matter.

Is there a trope for this? In fact, are there more examples?

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u/La_OccidentalOrient — 10 days ago

What do you call a nice girl who acts mean and spoiled like a Queen Bee but doesn't have a posse, doesn't need to be one hundred percent rich, is spoiled and nice but a little immature? Will use a girl as a personal assistant. But sometimes her reputation is proportionally depends on how she acts. ​​

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u/Spiritual_Safety_908 — 9 days ago