r/topmains

Imagine getting counterpicked, abandoned by jungle, weak sided for 20 minutes, losing half your HP to one bad trade, and still queueing top again immediately after the game ends.

Actually insane role.

Whenever you're against Darius, it becomes a game of "stay under your tower and only farm minions that gets under your tower" for the first 15 minutes, and if he didn't get fed then you win the game.

I understand that if in the end he still loses, then it's technically balanced, but there shouldn't be a champ such that if it's selected you can't play the game for 15 minutes.

Like literally as soon as you get close to kill a minion he literally kills you if you don't have 3 dashes and you can't do anything to escape that.

I know that this is probably going to be met with stuff like "get better at the game" yada yada, but the thing is that the majority of the playerbase is in low ranks, and the game is supposed to be fun to play. If Darius wasn't the only champ that doesn't allow you to play for the first 15 minutes I would be fine with that as I could just ban him and be fine, but he's not the only one (but this post is focused on Darius so let's not talk about the other ones for now).

Edit: so yeah, you are all proving my point. All the answers are either "git gud" or "play another champ". Not a single one that answers me why such a champ is allowed to exist if it makes low ELO games a living hell.

What an absolute monstruosity of champion. 3 out of 5 went ex which made laning phase the equivalent of ww1 trench where one minor mistake cost me 80%of my hp. Still won every match. However it cost me ny mental sanity. How does riot allow this to exist?

And why can't they nerf those changes? If I faced vayne or varus top some seasons ago it was annoying, but my jungle would also have an easy time ganking and enemy team would lose out on haveing some frontline. Now it's like it doesn't matter. Is it the respawn time?

yes a fizz into a yorick or an maplhite would be rough, but getting last pick into a vayne or varus, is it valid?

Ranged top is getting out of hand. She can auto attack. She can shield WITH MOVESPEED. You try to go melee? She hits her Q and SLOWS. if a skirmish occurs? She jumps on the jungler and turns him into a demon ahh champ.

This is not okay

it feels impossible to climb on this role

i hard stomp my lane, animal and bot feed their brains out. i lose lane, we ff15. i play lowelo stompers exclusively (mostly darius) yet i cant escape bronze, i try to freeze waves when ahead, cs well, move on the map when my team needs me or split when objective is up on the other side of the map. why is this not enough? i come out of laning phase with 5 kills and 2 level lead over everyone and every dogpiss mage can just hurl their artillery barrage at me whilest im perma ccd and i explode whilest my 0/7 ashe pushes botlane alone. i play tanks, i dont have the damage to have agency, i play bruisers, i get focused down and die like a worthless pig. is the only way to climb on this godforsaken role to lock in trundle and splitpush hoping i dont get collapsed on whilest my team still manages to lose every objective?

i dont really have friends to duo or stack with, but i feel like there is always something so wildly out of my control, i will never escape this prison, from inters, griefers, trolls, bots to smurfs, i feel like i have no say in my rank

Champs that are constantly said to be “late game monsters” like Jax or Zaahen, get absolutely dumpstered by a 6 item adc. Most “late game” top laners have suffered this fate, and can no longer hyper carry in the late game, that role is now your adc’s job. Only champ off the top of my head that can carry late game is Kayle I think.

I have experience with a lot of mechanically challenging games and like to play mechanical things, what top laners would be good to consider? I like fiora, i havent played much riven and i hate irelia.