
r/southernillinois

Aerial Photo of Cairo, IL
Been fascinated by Cairo’s location and naming ever since I saw it on the Cincinnati Gateway Sculpture. Finally got to see it in real life flying from DFW to CVG
$62M Metro East studio could be filming TV shows by summer 2027
stlpr.orgShould something be done about the 5+ illicit massage businesses in the area?
Yes I'm sure that's what they are. They advertise on multiple websites. I'm not concerned with the nature of the business, just the wellbeing of the employees.
Send this to those who think the fuel prices doesn’t change the economics
Insurance Premiums keep going up!
Why have my insurance premiums been creeping up without a recent claim in years. Ugh. I finally ran a quote for my own home & 2 cars, & just found a way better deal. Heads up that if you're in the same boat, you should talk to your broker or current carrier - this is a good time to save some $$$.
I work assessing risks for an insurance company in rural Southern Illinois
I'm probably not supposed to be sharing any of this, and I'm definitely not supposed to be typing it at my office. I don't know how many confidentiality agreements and licensure rules I'm violating by posting here, but please know that my intentions are only to let someone, anyone, know some of what's happening around me before they take away my access to the assessments & claims systems.
You can call me Anna. It's not my real name, not even close, but I wanted to give myself a moniker so the dialogue makes sense. I've always instinctively disliked short womens' names that start with a vowel. Maybe it's a jealousy thing - maybe I was just tormented by some super average white girls in elementary school in the early 90s. Either way, I'm adopting it now because it's the furthest thing I can think of from my true self. I need to make sure my identity is protected, both from the company and from anyone who is or was kin to the claimants in the following stories.
If you've ever been to the great state of Illinois, the Land of Lincoln, I'd bet $100 cash on the spot that you've been to northern (or, at a stretch, central) Illinois, and most likely the Chicagoland area. The metropolitan sprawl of the Chicago suburbs are, truly, massive, rolling 50 to 60 miles away from the lakefront to the north, west, and south. If you keep going due west, along Rte 47, you'll eventually run into DeKalb, home of Northern Illinois University. Roughly speaking, if you cut south from there on 55 for about 2 hours, you'll drive past Illinois State, then U of I in Champagne/Urbana. But if you keep going south, for about another 5 hours, you'll start getting into my area of the woods: Southern Illinois, and specifically Carbondale, home of Southern Illinois University, in the heart of the Shawnee National Forest. Honestly, it's closer to Paducha, Kentucky than it is to any other "major" metro area in Illinois, and is generally considered to be part of the south by those that live there. On some maps, you can see that parts of this area did claim to fall below the Mason-Dixon Line during the Civil War (something that certain locals will not let you forget easily).
**Note: At this point, it would be super helpful for you to look some good maps of the area for reference. Here are a couple of links, along with what they're helpful for. These will do more to teach you about how weird this place is than I can explain in words. If you have any questions, I'll try to answer in a follow up. Just trust me, all of this will become relevant as I go on.
Forestry service map: https://www.roseandacompass.com/s/Shawnee-national-forest-trail-map.jpg
Storm track map: https://www.weather.gov/ilx/tropical_climo
Fault line map: https://www.nprillinois.org/statehouse/2019-10-15/iema-fema-be-prepared-for-illinois-earthquakes
2017 & 2024 eclipse map: https://blog.wolfram.com/2017/08/14/double-eclipse-or-why-carbondale-illinois-is-special/
Map of Native Tribes: https://www.museum.state.il.us/muslink/nat_amer/post/htmls/popups/index_terr.html
1818 (first year of statehood) map (you can really see how the state developed from the south up in this one): https://mapsofthepast.com/products/historic-state-map-illinois-melish-1818-23-x-31-74-vintage-wall-art?srsltid=AfmBOooCiwv22OUG5z4q5uvuuO9U7ogMoAzKQ_eaeav54ScnuujTFZ5T
So my office is in Carbondale, one of the largest "cities" in this part of the state. It boasts a population of 22,223 permanent residents, plus the university. The surrounding towns are mostly a mix of unincorporated villages and townships, with a few larger towns like Marion closer to the interstate. It's an awesome college town, famous for it's downtown strip of bars, clubs, and restaurants, which harken back to the city's busier days, when the university was at its peak in the 70s and 80s. John Belushi based Animal House on his experience at school here, and I'm proud to say that the real Animal House was very real, and that I'd been there before it burned down in the 2010s. Students, largely from Chicago, always joked that they loved going to SIU because it was the furthest away from home they could get and still get in-state tuition.
I work for a major insurance carrier, one you've definitely heard of, with a celebrity mascot and a catchy phrase and everything. There's a very good chance you have a line of insurance with us or one of our subsidiaries/partners, if you have auto, homeowners, small business, or life insurance. We do all kinds of other stuff too, like boats and RVs, which are super popular in this area with the National Forest right here, but I'll come back to these later. My main point is that this isn't some shady 2-man operation or anything - it's a huge company, and I work at a local agency. I'm licensed nationally and by the state, and I work under a main agent. It's his name on the door, not mine, but I still bind policies, file claims, and pre-assess for underwriting. I'll call him Ben Easterly. I love Ben; he's the best boss I've ever had, and I maintain that through all of this. Ben has always had my back.
We run a tight ship of an office. Ben is ex-Marines, and sounds more like John Goodman than he realizes. Bigger guy, with a very calming and confident presence. I imagine him getting along well with my dad. His son, Caleb, works the front desk as our main customer service person, and there's been a slow rotation of other sales staff that have come and gone over the years. Ben, Caleb, and I are really the only old timers. This month's fresh meat in sales is named Shelley, but she's only been here about a week so far. We'll see how long she lasts.
Strange things always happen in Carbondale - there's even a Facebook page about it called WTF Carbondale that posts all the crazy happenings. Since the economy in this part of the state is severely depressed, tech isn't always up to date, and things like phone & internet service are not constant. Between that & the geography, mail moves slowly, calls drop, emails don't go through. We have outages all the times, but that never explained the thing with the phones to me.
The calls started happening around Christmas, right after I joined the agency years back, maybe 2012. I had just gotten to the office in the morning before we opened, around 7:45 in the morning. It had been a cold, misty drive in, with lots of slick patches covering the poorly-repaired blacktop of Giant City Drive. I lived out closer to the state park back then, in a small apartment that was remodeled from a hunting cabin into a duplex sometime in the '80s without rennovating the split-pea green bathroom fixtures. I unlocked the front door of the office and flipped the lights on, making sure the coffee maker was starting up on my way back to my desk. I dropped my bag onto the floor next to my ergonomic chair and sat with a resigned but vaguely optimistic sigh; just another innocuous, normal Monday morning.
Within moments, the sales line rang, which leads to my desk phone. Strange, I thought. Usually the automated phone system doesn't let any calls through until after our morning meeting is over at 9am, when office hours officially start. I grabbed my headset so I could take the call and have both hands available to type in the caller's policy information.
"Good morning, thank you for calling Easterly Insurance Agency, how can I help you?" My voice came through clearly, without the reverb you sometimes hear on a poor-quality or failing call, but there was no reply, only silence. "Hello? Hellooo?" I asked in my best professional-but-lively voice; still no answer. I looked at the caller ID on the desk phone, which read, clear as day:
CALLER/EASTERLYINSAGE/6185552151ex005
Our agency. Our number. My extension. I was somehow receiving a call from myself.
I quickly regarded it as a fluke - either a tech error, or some spammer spoofing our number - and it faded into the routine of the day. I forgot about it for about a week, until the same thing happened again. Monday, the first day of Winter Break for the students, 8:09am this time. Ben, Caleb, a sales girl named Jess, and I were having our morning meeting. The sales line rang, and I jumped up to get it - you never want to miss out on a hot lead. "Good morning, thank you for calling Easterly Insurance Agency, how can I help you?"
Silence.
I hung up, checked the number, and came back into the meeting.
"Just so you guys know, I think there might be an error in the phone system. This is the second time the caller ID has said I've gotten a call from myself."
"Weird," said Caleb. "I'll make a note and look into it more if it keeps happening." Ben nodded in agreement, satisfied that this would suffice to address the issue. We moved on.
The next time it happened, it was different.
It was just after lunch. 1:12pm, to be exact. I remember, because I was stuck in that minute on that phone call for what felt like hours.
It had been a while since the last mystery-internal-call. The sales line rang. I already had my headset on, having just replaced it after coming back in from my lunch break. It was December 23, two days before Christmas. It hovered around the freezing point all day, with consistent cloud cover threatening to start flaking snow at any moment and casting a dark pale to the dead, wintery world outside the office windows. We'd been getting lots of service calls for people looking to change and renew their policies before the holidays and the new year, and this day was no different. When the call rang, I hit my answer button, and cheerfuly recited my greeting into the headset. There was silence on the other end. I checked the caller ID, seeing that it was another of these calls, and repeated myself. This time, I thought I heard something.
I pressed the earpiece tightly against my left ear, and could barely make out a scratching sound. It was almost inaudibly quiet at first, but very clear and sharp, as if the audio was being recorded in a professional production studio. Little scratching sounds, like rats in a wall, slowly became louder and more distinct. It wasn't regular enough to be made by anything mechanical, and wasn't random enough or staticy enough to be electrical interference. I pushed the end call button, and the caller ID vanished from the screen. The scratching, however, got louder. It's almost-pattern quickened to a frenzied, panicked pace, like something trying to dig its way out...out of what, I'm not sure, and I didn't want to know.
I hit the end call button again, and the scratching only intensified, its volume hurting my ear at this point. I felt sharp nails digging against my skull, as if struggling to tear through into the outside world. I ripped off my headset, desperate to put space between myself and that sound. Something about it was deeply, horribly wrong, like a frequency out of place in our percieveable dimension of reality. It sounded like something trying desperately to claw its way out, or up. I sat at my desk, staring at the headset laying silent in front of my keyboard, red light flashing to indicate that it wasn't currently on a call. The sound echoed inside my head, sending bolts of pain through the crown of my head and waves of nausea accross my abdomen. I gagged, barely keeping down the gyro and fried mushrooms I'd had for lunch from El Greco. Eventually I lost my composure, and vomited into the trash bin behind my desk. Good thing I was good at doing that quitetly (a story for another time). No one else in the office noticed.
It took a good 15 minutes for me to recover physically, and a little longer to gather my wits about me. I can only imagine what even low-level radiation exposure is like, but to me at the time, that was the closest analogy I could find to how I felt. The skin all over my whole body ached as if it were bruised, or had just come down from a high fever. My head throbbed, and I could still feel and taste the bitter acid in my esophagus. I was exhausted and out of breath. I reached for my inhailer, feeling the familiar tightening of asthma begin in my bronchials.
It had been what felt like a good two hours by the point I looked up at the wall clock again in any meaningful way. At first, it didn't register, but the time showed 1:12pm - no different than it had when the phone rang. I checked the wall clock against the digital clock in the corner of my computer, my desk phone, and then my cell. 1:12pm. The last 2 hours, or what felt like the last two hours, apparently hadn't happend.
I freaked out. At this point, I'd been really good about only using a Klonopin when I really needed it for a panic attack, and I was down to .5mg only a couple of times a month; a huge contrast to the 4mg/day I was taking before I was properly diagnosed (again, a story for another time). I popped the pill through the foil, bit it in half, and placed half under my tongue. I went to Ben's office, and asked to go home sick. I was clocked out and on my way back to my apartment by 1:25.
From then on, the calls started becoming more frequent, and once, Caleb even got one. We could never hear anything besides silence and the quiet scratching, and Caleb didn't seem to be affected in any way. It didn't get loud enough to really make anything out again for a long time after that, but the calls never stopped coming. Sometimes three or four a day.
About two weeks later, just after New Year's, the university was getting ready to start up again for the spring semester. For us, that always meant a sharp rise in renters' quotes and auto claims due to the students moving back in to off-campus housing. The mystery calls were a commonplace occurance at this point, so it didn't phase me that much when they came through. I accepted the calls, dictated my greeting, and then hung up when I heard the silence on the other end.
It was a Friday, I think the 5th or 6th of January, when I got the next really weird call. This one was different. It was from a local number, a landline by the looks of it, with a semi-original Carbondale phone number probably assigned during the days of switchboards. I accepted the call, expecting an elderly customer or perhaps someone from out of city proper.
"Good morning, thank you for calling Easterly Insurance Agency, how can I help you?"
"Hi," said a perky, student-aged female voice. I could tell she was from the city from her accent. "Could you please look up my renters policy? It's number 008523225."
"Absolutely, thanks for that, and can I have the name on the account?" I asked. My system was still searching for the policy, displaying only a spinning wheel over a grayed-out screen. I picked up a pen, quickly transcribing the policy number, poised to take her name down in writing while I waited for my computer to catch up.
"Sheppard," said the voice over my earpiece.
I froze.
"I'm sorry, could you spell that last name for me?" I hoped that she would say SHEPHERD, like the traditional spelling, but her voice neatly spelled out the name with no possibility of confusion. "SHEPPARD. Deborah Sheppard."
That was I name I knew. Not personally, of course, I was too young for that, but everyone knew that name. Infamous Carbondale and SIU history, along with the Hundley House murders of the 1920s and the more recent Dardeen family killings in 1987.
Deborah Sheppard had been violently murdered in her off-campus apartment in 1982. The case was famous. It had gone cold for decades, only for evidence to come forward in 2007 that linked the murder to serial killer Timothy Krajcir.
"I'm...I'm so sorry," I stammered. I didn't know what else to say. Either this was someone's idea of a sick joke, or there was another girl with the same name who also had a renters policy through us that expired in September 1983. "Could you please repeat that?"
My heart felt like it was beating up out of my chest and into my throat. I was filled with an overwhelming sensation of dread, like I knew something awful was about to happen, but I didn't know what or when. The most anxious part of my brain almost expected to hear the scratching sounds again, but nothing followed. The call dropped. The air in my office felt hollow, as if some great gravity well had sucked all of the ambient energy into the desk phone and caused it to vanish into a pinpoint-sized black hole.
I didn't answer any more calls that day. When I checked my call logs and recordings the next day, it didn't show up in the log as having been received or placed - there was just a gap in the timestamps between Caleb's incoming call at 2:06pm and the next outbound call I placed at 2:34pm to a Mr. Joe Butcher II.
I have to go for today, but there is so much more I need to write. Next time, I'll tell you a little about Makanda. I haven't even gotten to any of the assessments or claims I've processed yet, let alone some of my experiences going out to people's homes in the woods and surrounding farmland in Jackson and Union Counties. I'm currently expanding my research into what I've experienced, but there really isn't as much online as I'd hoped besides some TikToks and old blog posts. If anyone reading this is from Southern Illinois and wants to connect, I'd love to hear from you. Honestly, it would be nice to know I'm not crazy...or, I guess, the only one still sane enough to recognize the strangeness that's going on here.
- Anna Bigelow, Insurance Agent, May 2026, Carbondale, IL 62901
Panthers den hike
Anyone have experience with this hike?? Im reading reviews on all trails app and many people are saying that its horribly marked and that they got lost for hours. One even mentioned a grizzly bear family???
My father who is in his 70s(hes in better shape than me) wants to do this hike with my husband, myself, and my dog. I just want to be prepared for if we do end up getting incredibly lost, having enough supplies, and maybe not being bear snacks.
Thank you!
Local whiskey/bourbon
Are there any distilleries that make their own whiskey or bourbon? I don’t drink but I’m looking to buy a retirement gift for someone who does. I’d like to spend less than $100. I know I could go to liquor store and get something, but I’m buying it for someone who does not live here and would like to get him something local. I’m in Carbondale.
Hello fellow Illinois folks,
Im planning a full state, multi month bike trip and need your help. Part of what I love about this state is not only the land (flat as it at least here in central IL) but also all the cool small towns tucked away amid cornfields and way deep back on scenic country roads (whether it be just corn land or scenic river valleys or down in the southern part or wherever). I'm talking about the places with maybe one pub or one diner and maybe a small park (if even that). If you have ever driven around the state and off the major highways, you know what I am talking about. To me, these places represent the midwest and have a special character that I want to get to know a bit more. Anyways, the problem is they aren't exactly tourist spots so no one really knows about them unless you are from there or your family is or you somehow stumbled across them like I plan to. Part of this trip will be me discovering these places along the way, I know that, but if there are any that are absolutely special and that you know already, I would love to hear the recommendations and see if I can squeeze them in somehow. I'm planning to go from Cairo to Chicago and zig-zagging across the state as I go. I want to see some of the major destinations too (garden of the gods and various state parks---happy to hear recs for those places as well), but mostly I'm looking for the smaller places with that midwest charm. I'm looking for roads near rivers (highway 26 the Illinois River Road is a perfect example of what I want), or near parks and deciduous forests, scenic byways, must see small towns, unique inns, great pubs and greasy family diners. Also looking for recommendations on tucked away nature spots, swimming holes, etc. Really anything you think is quintessential to a trip like this. My plan is to sleep at campsites when I can but also in parks here and there or really anywhere I can throw a pad down and be out early enough before anyone can say anything. Anyways, your recommendations are appreciated.
Looking a lot for places in Southern Illinois right now as I plan on doing a trial run this summer down there starting in Cairo and zig zagging may way up past Carbondale maybe up to mt Vernon and beyond depending on how long the zigs and zags are.
To sum up, these are the recs I'm looking for:
- unique midwestern small towns that are off the beaten trail
- Must see scenic roads and byways that would be pleasurable and suitable for biking (or just my best options that are not major interstates, highway 26 river road as great example of what I am looking for). I’m a seasoned outdoors man if that matters at all
- must see state/local parks
- anything weird or odd or uniquely midwest/illinois along the way
thanks for the help!!
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Sorry to intrude upon this group with what should be an off topic post but I am blocked from responding https://www.reddit.com/r/Naperville/comments/1tb8869/comment/olerbbo/
If mods can successfully report a ban evasion (I cannot for some reason)
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Don't send strangers money.
I originally put the link in the title but reddit automatically deleted the post. 🤔
This is legitimate (and awful) (and ignorant)
If you came across what would animal would you guess it it
Amish/Mennonite greenhouses
Looking for them within a reasonable distance from the area. Used to go to the one across the ferry in KY but they moved. I've heard about one in belle rive and one in ewing but don't know names or anything else. Any good recommendations.
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Looking for an adults-only D&D or Pathfinder game in Southern Illinois.
Adult single player looking for a D&D 5 or Pathfinder game. I live in Marion, but I'm willing to drive around an hour away for a game around Cape, Paducah, or other parts of the area on the weekends. I enjoy role playing and backstories. I tend to play Wizards or Alchemists.
Spent a couple months researching Galena and ended up making a video about it. The thing that hooked me: in 1845 it was the second-largest city in Illinois, producing about 80% of America's lead, with the busiest port on the upper Mississippi north of St. Louis. Ulysses S. Grant lived there before the Civil War.
Then the rail roads went around it. By 1900 the town had lost more than half its population. About 3,000 people live there today.
Leaned heavily on the Alfred W. Mueller Historical Collection on galenaillinois.com. Anyone from that part of the state — is there local history I missed?
Been digging into Cairo for the past few weeks for a video and figured I'd share what I found here.
The thing that surprised me most: in 1920 Cairo's population was 15,203 — that same year Memphis had under 30,000. Cairo had seven railroads running into it, sat at the biggest river confluence in North America, and served as Grant's Civil War headquarters in 1862. By every reasonable measure it should have become a major American city.
What got it instead was a slow structural killing nobody noticed. The 1929 Mississippi bridge crossed south of town. The 1937 Ohio bridge did the same. Suddenly travelers could go between Missouri and Kentucky without ever stopping at the confluence. The ferry industry collapsed. The hotels emptied. By 1960 — before any of the racial unrest most people associate with Cairo — the town had already lost 40% of its population purely from being passed by.
Today there are 1,500 people there. The grocery store shut last year. The hospital closed in '86.
Pulled a lot from the Bonham Museum and the Lincoln Presidential Library archives. If anyone here grew up in Cairo or has family from Alexander County, I'd genuinely love to hear what local memory says I missed.
looking to move to southern illinois and i want to live near a trading card game/table top store where i can buy single pokemon cards for cheap. any recommendations? any city suggestions? thanks! :)