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And don't you worry, the woman who is brighter in addition to being just supple, fair and slitty-eyed (Demi) ends up as a damsel in distress for most of the story!
this part of the comic is response to fan letters claiming Sue was useless
I feel like this fits the "doing it right flair?
His student in the short skirt - he couldn't remember her name - appeared during office hours that afternoon. 'You looked up my skirt,' she said. 'What are we gonna do about it?'
How dare she? He was a distinguished member of the faculty, for God's sake. And this Lisa - yes that's it - would not be satisfied until he was... dismembered. How had he arrived here, from walking home from school to his mother's embrace and a tuna fish sandwich on perfectly toasted toast... to this horror? Well, of course he had looked up her skirt. But, you know, was that a choice? In that moment, he knew she had complete power over him. And he knew that he was, maddeningly, absurdly... in love with her.
The above is from "Murder He Wrote," the latest episode of Elsbeth (s3 ep16). It opens with a pompous, Boomer novelist reading from his latest work. It absolutely, 100% nails these misogynistic, sexually harassing, writer/professor men. The whole episode just made me so happy. I just wanted to hug the writers of the episode (and go tell my high school boyfriend that he's become such a cliche as to be the stuff of satire). No spoilers, but we all know from the start that this man is going to get what he deserves.
It's been a while since I read this, but I remember liking it well enough. The main character was normal and unremarkable.
My most charitable interpretation of the foreward is just that when this was written, perhaps it WAS remarkable to treat a female character as human and interesting enough to be worthy of a story.
She wakes up, thinks something really bad happened, grabs a knife.
He says, “you were raped, but I didn’t rape you.”
Then she lowers the knife and asks if he has aspirin.
Ah yes, let’s immediately sexualize the corpse of a teen girl 😵💫 Guess it was supposed to hook me but instead it gave me the ick. Would have bothered me less if he’d just called her pretty without adding the underlined bit.
This was over discussions about tomboy characters in medieval fantasy and historical nonfiction books (Arya Stark and Jo March specifically) and adaptions. There was an argument too on tomboy characters being singled out for not following gender norms of those times and the strengths that traditionally feminine characters bring (Sansa Stark and Amy March)
I’m pretty sure it was said Galadriel fought in rebellions too in the books
I (34F) work in a coffee shop as a barista and a regular customer (40sM) lent me Still Life with Woodpecker by Tom Robbins. I have never read Tom Robbins and WOW it is a struggle. Really pushing through it, but I don’t even want to finish. The way this man writes about women and sex is nauseating.
Completely questioning this man’s choice in recommendation, and genuinely wondering why he thought I would enjoy it. Dreading having to provide feedback when I return the book!
So my parents are prolific fiction readers and my dad actually has a ton of books by this guy , who is also local to our area (central Pennsylvania) . Most of the others I’ve read (the Rabbit series etc) are like this too but it’s from the man’s perspective so I guess he gets a pass. I have no idea what possessed Mr. Updike to write a book about three straight witches, told from their perspective, written with such a preponderance of descriptions of their own and each other’s bodies in such graphic sexual detail. yes jokes about his last name are welcome. (Edit: Apologies for the terrible highlighting job, it’s not my copy of the book so I took photos then used the markup feature on my phone and it didn’t go very well)
I saw this on Insta and couldn't helo but post it here.
If this is not okay I will remove it
Who hasn’t examined their boobs and deduced instinctually that their youth is over?
EDIT: can’t fix the title but it was originally published in 1962 not 2015! My copy is a reprint.
"Frontal Geometry" absolutely killed me lmao, I can't believe this is more or less how the book opens. The way this man "flirts" with this woman is also insane imo. just wild all around
I've kinda been having a hard time trying to figure out how to feel about this book.
Great writing almost like poetry, beautiful, beautiful but and I think this sub would understand (i hope actually) weird plot, weird characters, weird sex scenes, a pedo bit.
And yes, a writer who writes murder mysteries doesn't automatically become a murderer but idk how to feel about Gabo.
Several posts have been made about him here if you use the search bar so I won't but what makes a good book/ work of art? the writing, yes? is it still great if he's talking about pedo stuff? i guess.
Maybe he wants us to be nauseated cuz why else would you put " let's get ready for school" bit after the s*x bit with a child? Like it has to be intentional yeah?
Does your art say something about you? Always? Even if you're telling a story of a hare and a tortoise?
Is it a man thing?
Like what does it say if you as a male director love to show violence in your movies? Does it say something about you? Or is it not that deep?
I'd love to hear thoughts. Thanks!
