r/katseyeneutral

With all the posts and discussions lately (especially about Manon), I feel like a lot of people here are forgetting that the girls most likely signed extremely strict contracts.

Everything they do, say, or post is monitored and controlled by their management. Honestly, it wouldn’t even surprise me if every single post, like or comment has to be approved by someone before it goes public.

Many discussions here are framed as if the girls actually have a choice or full control over their actions. But realistically, the management should be the first ones held responsible for most of these things. And yes, people do criticize the management as well, don’t get me wrong, but sometimes I read comments like “maybe Manon just wants to do her own thing and doesn’t want to be part of Katseye anymore.”

And every time I think: do you really believe she has that kind of choice? Do you think she could simply leave the group just because she wants to?

A lot of the small “controversies” that pop up (like Manon removing “Katseye” from her bio, or the whole following/unfollowing situation on Instagram) are either intentionally managed by the company, or if the girls actually do something on social media that management considers “not allowed” there will almost certainly be consequences. These companies know how to go viral. Even if it’s bad publicity, it’s still publicity for them!

We already saw during Dream Academy how strict some of the rules can be and that there are real consequences for breaking them. And that’s probably only a really tiny fraction of what they chose to show publicly.

These kinds of contracts are no joke. In many ways, you’re basically signing away a huge amount of personal control to the company. People have discussed and exposed how extreme these contracts can be many times before (just think about NewJeans).

And this perspective can be applied to a lot of other discussions too. For example, the criticism about them not mentioning Manon during the Coachella performance, or how Lara and Megan ended the M.I.A performance.

that each girl got their own “Gabriela” and each having their own bridge that’s in their native language.

now that would have been so cool to see and hear.

Swiss, Korean, Filipino, Tamil and Chinese (Megan is super mixed based on her parents so she has like hella languages she could have picked based on her ancestry).

Like the vibes would have been immaculate for each girl and their cultures especially when Daniela bodied Gabriela and the MV was everything.

A girl can dream lmao.

love sophia down and she's clearly not responsible for this but can we please talk about sophia's stans for a moment?
i've seen some of the most vile and disgusting crap coming from that group, like they don't even care. they throw around the n-word, terms like "monkey", "gorilla", posting pictures of george floyd as "comebacks" etc with no shame.
i think manon solo stans who say disgusting things about the other 5 girls rightfully deserve to be called out but i only ever see them getting called out and getting flamed, when there's obviously a BIG elephant in the room that also needs to be addressed.

what do you guys think?

This is my first and probably last ever post in this sub. However, I need to get something off my chest that has been on my mind for weeks now. We don’t know really anything about this hiatus, who is majority at fault, how long it will be, or if Manon will ever come back. Two things I know for sure 1. Geffen specifically has been accused of mistreatment before with Black women in groups in the past, 2. companies know that a lot of yall will in fact not really give a shit.

As a Black man it is sooooo frustrating to see casual anti blackness. Whether it’s being called lazy (despite us seeing proof of her working her ass off especially since joining and going from really no prior experience besides writing to be a pretty good singer and dancer in a relatively short period of time), and all this speculation and now blaming her for this hiatus and defending the billion dollar company who clearly doesn’t give a shit about any of the girls and just wants money. If it were any of your faves, you would be crying screaming and throwing up. But because it’s the black girl, it’s well “she wasn’t really THAT important” “she isn’t THAT talented” “see the people at Coachella didn’t care” “it was probably something she did” and these companies know yall will do this because they know yall do not care about Black people, especially women.

Are the solo stans for Manon insane? Yes, they are like I think any solo stan is insane for a girl group just have a bias like a normal person. But we can’t ignore that part of the reason why the Manon ones exist is because of how she has been treated in the group. However, bashing the other members is not helpful

Also, yall are so selfish and don’t stand for anything to realize that a boycott isn’t to hurt the girls, it’s to send a message to HxG that this is not ok to treat one of the members of the group like this. But instead yall showed them what they already knew, yall do not give a single fuck about Black people, period. I hope everyone is proud of themselves for that fact I really truly do. I’m honestly disappointed and disgusted in just a lot of what’s been happening over the past few weeks not just in here but all over the internet. With this lack of transparency and Geffen’s history, this absolutely has a chance of happening again if she truly is out of the group. It should truly be 6 or nothing besides when injury or personal time off, etc.

Last point, if someone told me that this group was a social experiment to see if POC solidarity is possible I’d believe it. The anti blackness, anti Asian sentiments, the anti Indian sentiments, from all different sides has just been sickening honestly. Everyone, including a lot of Black folks got a ways to go.

PS: You being black, fully or mixed being ok with how this treatment of Manon is just a sign that you need to talk to someone about not liking the skin you are in and you need to unpack that.

KATSEYE’s “PINKY UP” debuts at No. 56 on the Apple Music Top 100 Global Chart.

- It marks their highest debut on the chart, surpassing “INTERNET GIRL.”

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KATSEYE’s “PINKY UP” makes its debut across major global markets on the Apple Music Top 100 Songs chart:

No. 94 — United States
No. 44 — United Kingdom
No. 40 — Australia
No. 10 — Brazil

I thought maybe they didn’t want people speaking on her on socials because ppl twist words up bad, so I got that they didn’t tweet or write a big announcement. People never think that those online statements are genuine so I get that!!! BUT

It was no mention of her at all. Like they are a group of 5. lol

No wonder you guys are going feral. I thought she would atleast get a shoutout to reassure the fans.

However the performance was amazing. I don’t understand why ppl are saying Daniela messed up? Maybe she just has a deep singing voice? She sounded okay to me.