u/Mediocre_Shelter_169

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🔥 Hot ▲ 837 r/katseyeneutral

I understand fans who think the sexualization is too much

I’m an ‘06 liner just like Megan, so when it came to conversations about them being exploited during bc era, I never formed an opinion cause I knew there would be nuances I couldn’t get. I was the same age as the NJ girls when they debuted and didn’t see a problem with 14 yo debuting, which has obviously changed. Living on a college campus factored in too because how they presented themselves wasn’t really different from other college age kid.

But with this current era it feels like they completely ripped away any plausible deniability of their team specially trying to market a mature image to children. It’s gross how they’re muddying their target audiences. One second they’re shaking ass in the parking lot the next they’re singing Golden with a fictional kids band. Nothing about pinky up requires childhood motifs like the stuffed animals or the kid bed in Lara’s scene (while they’re simultaneously licking swords). I feel like for it to serve an artistic purpose the music would have to have artistic value in the first place.

Edit: feel like people are focusing on the dance moves specifically and not the overall aesthetic picture. It’s not just twerking once or twice it’s everything that comes with it. I feel like the Epstein files are making people more vigilant to when younger themes are incorporated by artists into their art, and it really has to be done in specific thoughtful ways (which this is not).

u/Mediocre_Shelter_169 — 7 hours ago
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Grant is amazing, but I don’t feel like he thinks about singing/stamina in the groups choreos

I know Sohey is also their choreographer, and he and Grant have similar styles. He just hasn’t posted a video dancing to it yet, but this could apply to him too. I was wondering why the ending dance section didn’t hit for me like usually and I feel like it’s because the movements are sorta “simple” (by Katseye standards). I saw this posted and really like how Grant dances to it and the accents he adds. The problem is tho that the girls can’t perform certain choreo to its fullest because they have to account for breath control, pitch, stability, etc. like his head isolations gives texture to the dance that the girls simply can’t add because they need vocal stability.

I don’t like how people are discrediting his/their importance in Katseye’s work, but I feel like there is a teeny tiny bit of validity in the criticism. It is kinda weird that Katseye’s team is opposite from most Hybe groups. Most have consistent music producers and rotate choreographers. It’s nothing against Grant and Sohey, just that choreographers all interpret music differently and it would be nice for there to be variation.

u/Mediocre_Shelter_169 — 2 days ago
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It’s frustrating how half baked Katseye’s team executes their concepts

I’ve felt this way since Gnarly, and that if they continued down the alternative hyperpop lane, that some tweaks would have to be made. With someone like Alice Gao, the original song writer, Gnarly is great. it’s a subversive critic on consumerism and aspects of internet culture that make sense coming from a small artist with an immigrant background. Lyrics like “making beats for a boring dumb bitch” make sense coming from someone likely having to do a lot of freelance work and tailor it to corporate interests. But put in the hands of a girl group backed by two multimillion dollar labels, it falls flat cause they are the epitome of what the lyrics are referring to.

Even with the disconnect in lyrics Gnarly’s visual atmosphere felt complete. I was really happy with Gabriela because it was fully thought out. But Pinky Up is now where near fleshed out enough. Maybe they could’ve have two different distinct looks, one ‘fancy rococo’ version and then one ‘avant-garden chaotic’ version, then towards the end of the video have a mix of the two. I feel like this would aid the storyline they were going for with them subverting etiquette and being their own brand of fancy.

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u/Mediocre_Shelter_169 — 3 days ago