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The Cult of M0iM (Mid '00s is Modern) Needs to Be Stopped
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The Cult of M0iM (Mid '00s is Modern) Needs to Be Stopped

I'm convinced that the Aesthetics Community and a loud minority of the GenDec (Generation Decade) community are part of a cult. They've created a psyop to deceive normies into thinking the '90s lasted until 2003 and that the mid-late 2000s were just an extension of the early 2010s. I'm exaggerating/joking a little, but holy revisionism Batman!

You can show them data and statistics which easily debunk their claims, yet they won't even read it, only regurgitate the same bad faith points over and over. This dogmatic behavior strongly parallels cults or religious fundamentalists.

  1. The social media era began in 2004 because of Facebook!
  2. All the '90s shows ended in 2004!
  3. The streaming era began in 2005 because of YouTube!
  4. The mid '00s were seventh gen!
  5. Y2K ended and Frutiger Aero began in 2004!
  6. Everyone had flat screen TVs!
  7. Everyone was already using early smartphones!

These points can be easily debunked.

  1. Social media was in its primordial form and only used by 7% of American adults in 2005. It lacked algorithms and most features we see today. Most people were using forums and instant messengers. Comparing modern social media platforms to their primordial selves is a bad faith comparison.
  2. This myth is cherry-picked BS. Most of the shows they're referring to premiered their finales years earlier in Canada and had reruns after 2004.
  3. The mid '00s were predominately sixth gen. The Game Boy Advance was still relevant, the Xbox notoriously had technical problems at launch, and the PS3 and Wii weren't released until the tail end of the era.
  4. Physical media was at its peak, Blockbuster peaked in 2004 and Netflix didn't launch as a streaming service until 2007. YouTube was in its primordial stage, having a view-based system as opposed to a watch time-based one and wasn't mainstream overnight.
  5. Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005, Windows Media Player 10, and the Nintendo DS were released at the tail end of 2004 and had clear Y2K influences. Frutiger Aero didn't become fully refined and mainstream until around late 2006 or 2007 with the release of the remaining seventh generation consoles, Windows Vista, and the iPhone.
  6. CRTs weren't surpassed by LCD TVs until late 2007. Flat screens were luxury items.
  7. Believe it or not, smartphones didn't surpass feature phones until 2013, so insisting that happened before 2007 is frankly absurd.

These aren't opinions, these are FACTS. My autism is really showing, I know, but it's driving me insane how far these misconceptions have been spread. It needs to stop.

While it's fair to say the mid '00s was a progenitor to the early 2010s in some ways, it's just as much a successor to the late '90s, yet people want to act like it was exclusively one or the other, mainly the former.

It's perfectly fine if you, as an individual, had a pseudo-2010s experience in the 2000s because you were a wealthy American who lived in an urban area or something, but I'm sick of some people acting like everyone had that experience.

To be clear, I don't hate any of these people, but they need to be stopped and deprogrammed. They've completely ruined discourse about decades.

u/Sad-Bell-6266 — 11 hours ago

2011 is definitely an old school year now

I don’t get the logic of the people who still refuse to call 2011 or even 2010 old school I can understand refusing to call 2013 old school but 2011??

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u/Subject_Display3664 — 6 hours ago

2019 Was a 2010s Year Not 20s Year Culturally

I actually remember being in 2019 and thinking how 2010s it feels and wondering what the next decade would be like. There's no way anyone can convince me 2019 was even partly a '20s year culturally. Were there some hints of 2020s culture later in the year? Sure. But I would say 2019 was if not 100% at least 90% '20s culture. By December 31, 2019 it was at least still 90% 2010s in my opinion.

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u/_Slim95 — 17 hours ago

When do you think the late 2020s will start?

I believe we’re already in the mid-late 2020s transition, it started last month in March 2026. I think the late 2020s will start sometime in the 2026-2027 school year.

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u/Subject_Display3664 — 8 hours ago

Is 2000-2003/4 destined to be viewed as an extension of the late '90s and is 2004/5-2009 doomed to be viewed as an extension of the early 2010s?

It's somewhat reasonable for the early '00s to get lumped in with the late '90s and the late '00s to get lumped in with the early 2010s, but I don't understand the dogmatic insistence by the Aesthetics Wiki and others to group the mid '00s with the early 2010s.

People like the Aesthetics Wiki made the public perception of the 2000s more fucked than it already is. Initially it was viewed as "the Decade from Hell", now 1/3 of it is split towards the '90s and 2/3 of it is split towards the 2010s, dafuq? We're refusing to allow the 2000s to be a distinct entity now.

I guess it's because late 2006 had the earliest signs of early 2010s culture, but 2004-2005 and most of 2006 are as 2000s as you can get. I'd even argue that they skew towards the '90s over the 2010s, definitely closer to the early '00s than the early 2010s, but they're overall pretty distinct from both.

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u/Sad-Bell-6266 — 15 hours ago

Are we just on nostalgia trips?

We often look back at the last century with rose-colored glasses, nostalgic for “the good old days.” We romanticize decades like the Roaring Twenties, the optimism of the 1960s–70s, or the pre-millennium excitement of the 1990s—only to realize that the new millennium didn’t turn out anything like people imagined. In fact, some might say it’s even worse.

What people forget is that every decade, era, and century has its good, its bad, and its ugly. Nothing is purely perfect or purely terrible. When we look at a particular period and think it was the best, it feels objective, but it’s really subjective—everyone experiences history differently.

Most of the time, nostalgia comes from childhood memories or positive associations. But just because we feel nostalgic doesn’t mean an era was free of negatives. Take the 1960s and 70s, for example—footage shows bright colors, smiling faces, and happy moments, but media often exaggerates that. Not everyone was happy, and serious issues like racism and the KKK were very real. Even the Roaring Twenties weren’t as “roaring” as we like to imagine.

It’s exhausting when older generations say things like, “It was better back then,” as if the problems of those times didn’t exist.

The truth is, history is complicated. Every decade has challenges, every era has struggles, and things aren’t as easy or cheerful as we sometimes think. Pop culture, ideas, norms, and society change every 5–10 years—and that’s just part of life.

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u/0CupofMilk — 10 hours ago

Battle Of The Years Technologically. Eliminating Years Until We Have A Winner. 2013 Has Been Eliminated. What Year Should Be Eliminated Next

Battle Of The Years Technologically. Eliminating Years Until We Have A Winner. 2013 Has Been Eliminated. What Year Should Be Eliminated Next

This is technologically ONLY, political and cultural events don't count for this one

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u/Think_Marketing1116 — 20 hours ago

Battle Of The Years Pop Culturally. Ranking 21st Century Years From Most To Least Culturally Impactful. 2013 Has Been Eliminated. What Year Should Be Eliminated Next

Battle Of The Years Pop Culturally. Ranking 21st Century Years From Most To Least Culturally Impactful. 2013 Has Been Eliminated. What Year Should Be Eliminated Next

This is culturally ONLY, political and technological events don't count for this one

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u/Think_Marketing1116 — 20 hours ago
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