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Analysis of the mid 2000s (approx. 2004-2006)

Analysis of the mid 2000s (approx. 2004-2006)

This era feels like the final safely "old school" era to me. By old school, I mean pre-smartphones, pre-social media, pre-streaming, etc. I always see more love for the late 90s/early 2000s or late 2000s/early 2010s. People often just lump it in with the latter, despite being its own distinct era.

If any era which had internet access isn't considered "old school" to you, then the late '90s to mid '00s are disqualified, but the mid '00s are still dated compared to the 2010s and beyond regardless.

Forums and instant messengers were still dominant. Only 7% of American adults used social media in 2005, and the platforms had no algorithms. The late 2000s were 50/50 and the early 2010s were already dominated by social media.

For context, 14% of U.S. adults had internet access in 1995, double that amount, yet the late '90s is usually considered the first internet-adjacent era, not the mid '90s.

Peak Windows XP, after supplanting Windows 9x and before Vista was released. Vista wasn't popular, but it was influential. Many people modded XP to look like Vista in 2007-2009.

Late sixth gen era, still firmly sixth gen era, yet the seventh gen consoles were being hyped.

Peak of feature phones before smartphones were introduced. Smartphones didn't replace feature phones overnight, but 2007 marked the beginning of the gradual transition which lasted until 2013.

Peak physical media. Blockbuster peaked in 2004 and Netflix didn't launch as a streaming service until 2007.

LCD TVs were a luxury in the mid 2000s. CRTs weren't supplanted by LCD TVs until late 2007. AFAIK, LCD monitors supplanted CRT monitors (the sources are inconsistent), but early LCD monitors were square rather than widescreen, so they still look antiquated by contemporary standards.

Some Y2K era shows were still airing new episodes, such as Malcolm in the Middle and The Sopranos. Reruns and DVD releases of older shows were also abundant, they didn't vanish into thin air.

Liminal period between Y2K and Frutiger Areo. People like to say it was one or the other, but it was neither.

u/Sad-Bell-6266 — 2 hours ago
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What did 2000 and 2003 have in common?

This isn't a rage bait post or anything. I've accepted the "normie" era ranges since I'm getting too old for this shit. 2004-2006 and 2007-2009 have clear similarities that justify the ranges, but what did 2000 and 2003 have in common?

2001, 2002, and 2003 are pretty similar, but 2000 sticks out like a sore thumb.

2000 was still the Clinton administration, pre-9/11, 64-bit era consoles, boy bands and teen pop everywhere, etc. Very late 90s vibe.

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u/Sad-Bell-6266 — 14 hours ago
Debunking the myth that the mid 2000s (approx. 2004-2006) are a contemporary era: TL;DR edition

Debunking the myth that the mid 2000s (approx. 2004-2006) are a contemporary era: TL;DR edition

More concise version of this post, for those who don't want to read through it all.

It was predominately sixth gen. The 360 infamously had technical problems at launch, the DS officially didn't surpass the GBA until 2008, and the remaining consoles were released at the tail end of the era.

Forums and instant messengers were still dominant. Only 7% of American adults used social media in 2005, and the platforms were much more basic than now.

Mid '00s predates streaming and smartphones. Blockbuster peaked in 2004 and the iPhone obviously didn't launch until 2007.

Most '90s shows didn't end in 2004, this is a myth perpetrated by cherry picking.

Frutiger Areo wasn't dominant in 2004-2005. Windows Vista, the iPhone, and most seventh gen consoles weren't released yet.

Bonus: CRTs weren't surpassed by LCD TVs until late 2007.

u/Sad-Bell-6266 — 18 hours ago
Debunking the modern perception of the mid 2000s (approx. 2004-2006) that some people have
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Debunking the modern perception of the mid 2000s (approx. 2004-2006) that some people have

I usually include 2003, but I'll use the normie range for this.

Over the years, I've seen many in GenDec (Generation and Decade) communities act like the mid 2000s is a contemporary era, when in reality it was outdated even by early 2010s standards.

I reckon most who push this belief were either very privileged (i.e., Harvard students) or too young to remember the era and regurgitate what they heard about it from the former group.

Gaming

The mid 2000s are often associated with the seventh generation of consoles, but it was still dominated by sixth generation consoles.

The Game Boy Advance was still relevant, many of the best games for the system were released circa 2004-2005. It wasn't supplanted by the Nintendo DS overnight, there was overlap, especially since the original DS was backwards compatible with GBA Games.

The Xbox 360 infamously had fatal technical problems at launch, and the PS3 and Wii weren't released until the tail end of 2006.

Music

Many bring up the nu metal vs emo divide, since emo became more mainstream in autumn/fall 2004, but I don't understand how it makes the mid 2000s look more modern.

If anything, it makes the mid 2000s look more antiquated. Rock music was no longer mainstream in the 2010s, and emo is technically older than nu metal.

Technology

Forums and instant messengers such as AIM and MSN were still the dominant online platforms, not social media. Only 7% of American adults used social media in 2005. You can imagine that it was lower in most regions. It was definitely still the "Wild West" era of the internet.

Nevertheless, early social media lacked addictive AI-driven algorithms and most features we see today. They had simple reverse chronological feeds, and early YouTube had a simple view-based system. I already made a post about this.

This era also entirely predates modern smartphones. Early smartphones did exist in the 90s and 2000s, but the iPhone refined the idea.

Television

There's this weird myth that every 90s show ever ended in 2004. This is top tier cherry picking. You could make the argument that any year was a shift based on television show finales.

CatDog and Hey Arnold actually ended in 2002 with "Meat Dog's Friends" and "The Journal"

Rugrats actually ended in 2003 (excluding All Grown Up and Tales from the Crib)

U.S. channels would often premiere episodes later than other countries and out of order, giving the illusion that shows lasted longer than they actually did.

And the final season of Friends, Frasier, and Johnny Bravo looked aesthetically 2000s. People act like they were aesthetically 90s for their entire run, but they updated the shows as they progressed.

Speaking of…

Aesthetics

It's time to discuss everyone's favorite Zoomer slop, Frutiger Aero!

While this aesthetic did exist, it wasn't mainstream or dominant in the mid 2000s, it's mostly a late 2000s/early 2010s thing. "Frutiger Aero lasted from 2004-2013" is Gen Z's equivalent of "the 90s lasted until 2004." A myth perpetuated by Gen Z to extend the 2000s, similar to how younger Millennials try to extend the 90s.

The products that made this aesthetic mainstream, such as Windows Vista and the iPhone, weren't even released until around 2007, so starting the range in 2004 or 2005 is wild. I believe it's more accurate to describe the mid 2000s as the liminal period between Y2K and Frutiger Aero. I like the name "AquaLuna" for this period, since it was the peak of Windows XP, which had a UI design which blurred the lines between Y2K and FA.

u/Sad-Bell-6266 — 1 day ago
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Are the final months of a year (autumn and winter) relevant to a year's culture/identity?

For a while, I've been grouping the autumn and winter with the following year (i.e., late 2025 would be culturally part of 2026 rather than 2025).

I recently spoke with my friend, and they told me that I've supported this model so much because I subconsciously wanted to be grouped with people born in the previous year.

I've gaslighted myself into believing this wasn't the case, but I think they're right. While early and middle months define a year's culture more than trends from the tail end of the year, it's time for me to accept that late months do count within their respective year.

Nobody's going to consider The Incredibles a 2005 movie lol.

u/Sad-Bell-6266 — 2 days ago
Why are GenDec people obsessed with bringing up Facebook and YouTube in 2004-2005?

Why are GenDec people obsessed with bringing up Facebook and YouTube in 2004-2005?

I always see people bring them up in an attempt to modernize the mid 2000s, but it's a Ship of Theseus scenario. Yes, "The Facebook" existed in 2004 and "YouTube" existed in 2005, but their primordial forms were so distinct from their contemporary forms that they're essentially unrecognizable.

Facebook and YouTube in the mid 2000s lacked addictive engagement-based algorithms. They used reverse-chronological feeds, and YouTube had a view-based system. They also lacked many other features which would make this post too long if I listed them all.

It's especially silly for Facebook because it was a private website exclusive to a few colleges. Only privileged college students used it that year. It didn't become public until late 2006. YouTube wasn't an overnight hit either, it took time to grow.

If you're going to bring up mid 2000s social media, then bring up MySpace, even if it wasn't mainstream until autumn/fall 2004. It was more obscure between autumn/fall 2003 and summer 2004, but at least you didn't need a college email to access it lmao. And it was huge in 2005-2006. Facebook didn't supplant it until 2007ish.

u/Sad-Bell-6266 — 4 days ago

Numerology is the Only Valid Way of Analyzing Decades

December 31st and January 1st of any pair of years are completely different universes. The change is like a light switch.

December 31st 1999/January 1st 2000

December 31st 2003/January 1st 2004

December 31st 2006/January 1st 2007

December 31st 2009/January 1st 2010

You name it man. I get giddy at the thought of hard cutoffs.

And anyone who disagrees with me is an unintelligent plebeian who hasn't graduated from Reddit University.

>!April Fools!!<

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u/Sad-Bell-6266 — 5 days ago