I ve been told by some that shojin is a bait item as 2nd, i mostly go shojin when im vs tanks, but i sometimes also go sunderer sky. if so, then what are good alternatives for 2nd item as i go 70% of my games voltaic first?
I assume it's because of the ult nerf?
It's the first time I played Grasp instead of Electrocute and even though I see lots of people play the rune, I have a hard time imagining the value it provided.
It was a game against an Illaoi and even having stomped the game, the stats don't seem incredible to me, I don't really know.
Who should i watch to learn how to lane as ambessa, is there anyone like there is potent for fiora and nayill for aatrox?
I'm currently playing Ambessa top with this build and it feels really good right now. Her lv6 is much much stronger than before, her sustain after gluttonous greaves is insane. Play it while you can, folks. Works really well on my elo. currently 1k lp KR server.
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So with ambessa having passive lifesteal built into her R, I've never actually questioned this, does the lifesteal apply to ALL abilitys, or just her R hitting a target?
I've been a Lethality Ambessa player since the beginning, but with the R nerfs it feels just bad.
Not damage-wise, but the thing with the assassin builds is that if there’s an ADC in front kiting you, you have two options:
Use your dashes to get on top of her, you might reach her, but you’ll probably be at 20-30% HP with no abilities left to actually kill her.
Press R on top of him and pray that it lands, then oneshot him. But now people dodge it so easily that if you miss, you’re basically dead.
So i think that, for the first time since i started playing this champ, Bruiser might actually be better.
The new Voltaic being so OP (you'll be able to activate the item multiple times in one teamfight) + Endless Hunger buffed + Q %dmg and healing buff, make this build of long fights and infinity sustain pretty good IMO.
Any questions or suggestions are appreciated.
Current Q
Against Blue Buff (2300 HP):
After Patch Q
Against Blue Buff (2300 HP):
So against Blue Buff specifically, the nerf is only about 4 damage pre-mitigation, 1200 HP monster: -26 damage, 2000 HP monster: -10 damage.
Most jungle camps have around 1200–2000 HP, so the damage loss is a bit larger there, but honestly it still doesn't seem that severe considering the patch massively buffs her early skirmishing.
Healing Comparison
Current Healing
1000 × 0.40 × 0.10 = 40 healing
After Patch
1000 × 0.25 × 0.15 = 37.5 healing
So the healing nerf also looks pretty minor in practice.
It’s sad this champion has not received one skin since her release. Riot hates powerful black women I guess.
Im pretty new to league and so far i have been a jungle Ambessa otp. Under every post about balance I have seen a lot of hate for jungle Ambessa. Is there a reason for this thats not just that lanes might catch stray nerfs/bans?
Genuinely never had as much fun with any champion in top lane to this extent. I mainly play wild rift but ambessa just feels so fluid and her ult is like the most fun ult to hit for me. All her moves feel so athletic like she's an actual trained warrior. And her Q2 animation is just so fun.
Also does anyone have any advice against renekton?
For context, im about 250k on ambessa and have consistantly played her since her release, im certainly not high elo but have friends in diamond and master who share similar opinions.
I've always believed that Ambessa is not perfectly balanced, ive always seen her as at the very least above average.
Now Ambessa is obviously, not an easy champ and theres definitely a skill to power ratio that she is entitled to.
But compared to other "mechanically demanding" toplaners or just mechanically demanding champs in general (riven, akali, ksante, samira, kalista) ive felt that the skill to power ratio on ambessa is a lot more lopsided compared to the other listed champs.
However, i definitely dont think that hitting her ult was the right move, ults are kinda supposed to be win buttons with counterplay (mostly) as an afterthought, like it would feel super weird if Garen's ult had a 5 second windup or something but i dont think her raw numbers should ever be used as a balance lever either, her frontloaded kit and bursty windows are half the appeal i think.
I've got some ideas for different nerfs that dont involve her windup, i only think she should be hit with 1 maybe 2 of them, these are suggested assuming that she would have the most recent nerf reverted
- base cooldown increase
- hit box thinner
- "slamdown" damage at the end decreased (or maybe removed and replaced with a slow/shred/movement speed boost)
- slight energy cost? (would be refunded with the slamdown at the end)
- slight nerf to ult passive stats? (ik i said number nerfs dont work but this is a bit different as 1-5 would be unaffected)
I dont think the windup is a good lever to shift but i do also think something needs to be done to lower her power a bit, be it an ult nerf or something else.
Hi guys so i just started playing Ambessa Top Lane a while ago, i found her really fun and im looking to get better on her. For this patch, i ve been looking for a decent build. instead of going eclipse, spear of shojin, deaths dance stuff and grasp i tried Voltaic, sunderer sky, deaths dance. these 3 are the main ones, then the rest of the build is depending on the teamcomp like you can go maw of malmortius then guardian angel, or endless hunger and something else, whatever you want to go for better sustain OR survivability OR both. i'd like yall's advice and honest opinion on this
When should i go lethality and when bruiser. I dont really like bruiser since it appears to me that she is weak late game with it. Also what runes to run on lethality and bruiser.
My builds are this
Bruiser: Eclipse->Shojin->Deaths Dance/Maw->Endless hunger and some other items depending on enemies
Lethality:Eclipse->Voltaic->Profane->Axiom arc-> some other items depending on comp
Are my builds good. If not what can i replace to make them better.
