r/VivziepopCritics

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Helluva Boss was initially a show about the character interactions with the whole GROUP, the workplace enviroment and the missions they went on, modern day Helluva Boss is in fact, "the Stolas show" and the rest of the characters have in fact been sidelined to either being irrelevant or only getting one episode or part of an episode of focus instead of the interactions. Anyone who says that Stolas and Blitzo were as dominant when the show started as they are in current seasons is a larping bum who glazes the show

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u/SerenityCitywide — 11 days ago
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Eh... Lets talk about this because i am honestly sick of people (expecialy on r/crazyasshazbinhaters) acting like this show doesn't have any issues and hating on people who critisise it.

So in The western energy episode we Hear a conversation between Stolas, Stella and Andrealphus and they are talking about The terms of divorce. When Andrealphus points out that Stolas cheated on Stella (this DUMBASS BIRD) Stolas has The audacity to say this (quote above)🔼.

This reasoning is just straight up wrong. Because in most cases cheating comes from a feeling of lust towards someone who is not your partner. I get that Stolas was mentaly frustrated with his relationship with Stella and he cheated to let out his sexual desires that were unfufilled because of how hostile his marrige is.

But lets also look at stella's side. She got cheated on with someone FROM THE LOWEST CLASS MIND YOU. She had every right to get mad at Stolas because of What he did. I'm not saying that i'm on her side. I'm saying that her feelings in that moment were totally valid.

That said, Stolas' argument in this conversation is straight up false. Cheating doesn't imply that you were betraied by someone you cheated on. It implies that you can't control your own sexual urges and are letting them out in The worst way possibile.

u/TechnicalOne4806 — 8 days ago

Stubborn Indie-Animator comic

I made this as a satire to the whole idea of Vivienne Medrano making hate merch of herself.

u/MattSmuggy12 — 6 days ago

Are there any criticisms you feel are unwarranted or too harsh?

Obviously this subreddit is about criticizing Vivziepop's works, and rightfully so. But even some of the more genuine criticisms I feel might be a bit biased or opinion based as apposed to a critic of her writing or art. For instance, I get where some people come from in terms of character designs when they say they are overly detail and cluttered. Granted that has only gotten better since her studios were bought out. However, I'm not too much of a fan of people hating the fact that they are themed off early 2000's cultures such as scene, or being furry based. It's perfectly fine if you don't like it! But its not *objectively bad* because its inspired by subcultures Vivienne might have been a part of or a fan of. Now I do think the edgy shock humor is a bit dated and people have a right to get sick of it. Though I myself am also not a big fan of the tumblr sexyman feel to some of the male characters, but if the writing can save them, than its not so bad.

Another thing is saying that all their body types are the exact same. Are we even watching the same show? The whole thing with Vivziepop's art is the fact that they are all incredibly unique and stylized! Maybe *I'm* just the biased one, but considering Vivienne is most remembered for her art style, I think its safe to say that there is a reason she is popular. But while her art style and inspiration are perfectly fine in my eyes, (0I do objectively like it), I do agree her writing is definitely not her strong suit and needs a better team to hold it up.

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u/Last-Inspection-8156 — 5 days ago
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Okay, so Lucifer can't harm sinners. Good thing his girlfriend can.

Let's get this clear straight out The gate. Phoenyx doesn't like fighting. She's more of a protector and negotiator than a combat monster. But it must be stated that although she doesn't like violence, she's very good at it. She was, after all, designed to defend the borders of Heaven at her creation. And she is permanently and unwaveringly in love with Lucifer. It doesn't matter that this big purple dinosaur guy can't actually harm the King of Hell. The moment he laid a paw on the guy and threatened to do unpleasant things to him, it flipped Fee's bitch switch. She delivers a clear warning and fax it up with Angelic fire and if this individual is not smart enough to back off, then he'd better pray that Lucifer grabs his paramour and absconds to the hotel before his rump gets roasted.

u/embyquinn — 2 days ago

Hello, it's me, the guy who made this.

I’m MattSmuggy12, the guy who made this meme, and the guy who’s going to explain why I made it. So, for my explanation, I dislike Vivienne Medrano as a person and who she is. First things first, I do think her show can use improvement, but I’m not going to talk about that because I feel like it’s always talked about and everything has already been said about her show’s writing and consistency.

Anyways, I’m going to get straight to the point. I don’t like Vivienne Medrano as a person because she can’t handle criticism. She acts annoyed or stubborn when people criticize her. “Oh, but most of the criticism is harassment.” Yeah, fair point, but when it isn’t harassment, she’s either telling people to get lost (not word for word) or gets highly defensive and frustrated. Vivziepop isn’t free from criticism. There are going to be people who will criticize some flaws in your show, maybe even make light-hearted jokes about it (not talking about “if blank was written by Vivziepop”). But it’s the fact that she wants everyone to be kiss-ass to where she thinks criticism = hate.

I will cut Viv some slack though because I know assholes on the internet have harassed her because they’re homophobic/transphobic MAGA Christians. And also I know Viv is an SA victim, which is terrible. I genuinely feel sorry for Viv and I would NOT wish that on anyone. And also people who drew pictures of Viv being r*ped are fucking monsters because genuinely wtf.

But on the topic, that doesn’t excuse being a stubborn asshole to those who just want your show to improve.

If you’re passionate about your project and people who genuinely like it and want to see it become something better, then blocking or being some thin-skinned, arrogant, egotistical righteous goddess who can do no wrong, and everyone who criticizes are the enemy will make you be seen as an unlikable lolcow.

I believe her shows can be good. The art style is good and the visuals are amazing from what I’ve seen of it, but it does need improvements with consistency and writing.

So now to why I drew Viv as an exaggerated raging soyjak.

It was completely out of spite. I grew tired of a bunch of boot-licking scabs flocking towards the defense of Viv whenever someone says anything remotely negative about Viv or the show. I decided to draw the soyjak to represent both the artist and the fans. I know not all fans are like this, but a good majority of them are. I honestly grew tired of seeing other people’s opinions get dismissed or invalidated because their opinions weren’t “positive.” That honestly is just it, just wanted to make fun of Viv and the fans.

The drawing represents Viv because she’s the creator of her show, obviously. I was planning on having Viv’s fans represent Viv as small little clones, mostly to keep it gender neutral, but poetically the smaller clones of Viv as her fans represent how some fans act just like Viv. I just wanted to mock Vivziepop fans and Viv because I wanted to reflect on how ridiculous they can be when it comes to responding to critics or opinions online.

So now I should address how I came off when I made this tweet. I came off as a dick, and I only get enjoyment in seeing the misery of this specific indie artist. The intention was to mock how Viv responds to criticism, which is mostly blocking those in order to avoid it, but no, I came off more mean-spirited than intended. Am I sorry for that? Yeah, I’ll definitely improve on how I come off because I genuinely don’t want to be compared to those who made the horrific art of Viv being SA’d.

I’m a harsh critic, yes, but like, no, I’m nowhere near those cuckolds who do monstrous shit like that. But does my opinion on Vivienne Medrano still stand? Yeah, I still dislike how Vivienne Medrano is as a person, but it’s not like I can change who she is, so I’ll leave it at that.

So am I apologizing and addressing this now? Because the post blew up, which caught me by surprise. I even laughed seeing some of the pissed-off comments, but I just wanted to clarify that I am NOT like one of those sickos who drew that weird shit about Viv. I do not want to associate myself with those kinds of people, and I wanted to explain why I don’t like Viv, unlike those who just hate to hate.

But anyways, I’ll leave it here. I’ll most likely not talk about Viv for a while, mostly because I want to talk about other shit, but I’ll also address other stuff. I’ll still keep the post up because it’ll be a lesson for myself so I can learn from my mistakes, but yeah. This was my explanation. You're free to agree or disagree with this post, but I just wanted to address it.

u/MattSmuggy12 — 2 days ago