r/MoroccoLGBT

What am I missing? Dating a Moroccan

Hello guys. I’m currently dating a moroccan who I met on the G app but I live in Europe. I have visited him a few times since last year and I can feel that he loves me too whenever we are together. But lately, he’s been asking me for money as he describes his life in Morocco as tough, for example not earning enough from his current job. I try to send him what I can spare, but I don’t want him to expect that I have money all the time when he asks me for it. His mood changes when he asks and I cant give it to him (because I have bills to pay too lol). I don’t want to think that he’s only using me for money, but Im starting to feel that our relationship is heading that way. He is not out and very masculine presenting

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u/Glad-Bet-9004 — 1 day ago
▲ 12 r/MoroccoLGBT+1 crossposts

The Quran describes human biology in the context of animal biology when it parallelly states that there are divine signs in the creations of humans AND animals (45:4). Apparently, homosexuality – which has been found in at least 1500 animal species including humans – is one of such divine signs. From a Quranic perspective, the presence of LGBT+ (lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender/transsexual+) people itself must have a profound purpose and meaning within the divine plan. It could be considered as one of the natural expressions of humans’ sexual diversity (42:49-50, 75:39, 30:21-22, 24:31). This diversity in turn is just another expression of the great diversity of nature (16:13). This important awareness is promoted by the very spirit of the Quran itself, which insistently asks us to celebrate all sorts of diversity in creation, wherein we should witness the diverse signs of divine manifestation (13:4).

u/Either_Pianist_9480 — 12 days ago

Advice

So I don't date or trying anymore, some friends tried blind date but I can't the problem is in me, I no longer believe in love or trust it or got the energy or the will to build it. But my friends assumed that I don't wanna move on or not trying hard, while I chose to not like I tried to date over and over but I find my Brain and heart friendzone the person before even I know or notice. How can I convince them that I'm done it's not for like I want to have relationship and date etc but I just have it in me no longer.

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u/PleasantYellow1998 — 6 hours ago

What am I?

Hi everyone I wish that u re all good and u re having a good day !!

I just wanna know if I can say that I m bi cause yeah I like boys in a romantic and sexual way but I like girls only in a romantic way so am u bi or not ? Foe now I consider myself straight cause for me (Ana hadchi li3arfa) when u say that u re gay or lesbian bi whatever... That s means u are attracted to this gender emotionally and sexually right?

Ps :I like boys like just normal ones if I could say but I like feminine boys (femboys) too ( I prefer that he s like that only whit me not whit others) another question to I ve never found a y straight femboy like are they all gay in this country (if u know where I can found them tell me where pls) 😭

Tbh I ve more to ask just shy to post it if u wanna talk feel free to dm me (+18 only pls)

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u/r_eira — 1 day ago

We didn’t Escape Patriarchy, we rebuild It

Unpopular opinion

A lot of Moroccan gay men are not actually fighting patriarchy.

They are competing to become acceptable men within patriarchy.

That’s why “discreet” masculine and emotionally unavailable men are over-worshipped in Moroccan gay culture. Not because they are rare. Because they are the closest thing to heterosexual male power.

Think about it carefully.

The closer a top gay man is to the traditional Moroccan masculine ideal, the more value he gains:
• doesn’t look gay
• dominant personality
• sexually “top”
• financially stable
• emotionally cold
• respected by straight men
• can blend into society
• religious when convenient
• publicly homophobic sometimes

Meanwhile feminine gay men are treated like the embarrassment everyone consumes privately but abandons publicly.

And this is the contradiction nobody wants to admit

Many Moroccan gays do not truly desire liberation from masculine norms, they desire access to masculine privilege

That’s why some gay men will secretly sleep with feminine men while publicly mocking them.
That’s why “ana machi Z****, ana actif” still exists.
That’s why some openly gay Moroccans receive more hatred from other gays than from straight people

Because visibly feminine gays destroy the illusion that homosexuality can still fit inside traditional masculinity.

Deep down a lot of Moroccan gay men are trying to negotiate with society “Please let me keep my male status. I promise I’m not one of those gays”

And religion sometimes becomes part of this negotiation too. Not genuine spirituality necessarily but reputation management. People drink lie cheat sneak around for years, but suddenly become morally strict when femininity enters the conversation

Even our attraction patterns are political

It’s interesting to observe that our gay models are predominantly of Western descent. We lack our own unique way of expressing love and existing as queer individuals without being associated with prostitution

Some people will read this and think it’s an attack on masculine gays. It’s not

The problem is not masculinity

The problem is building a hierarchy where human value depends on proximity to straight muslim male approval

And honestly until Moroccan gay culture talks about this openly, we will keep reproducing the exact system that suffocates us, just with better fashion and Grindr notifications

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u/chmicha_f_sma — 1 day ago

I can’t do life anymore it’s way harder than I thought

I work and live on my own in a different city than the one where my family is. And I keep trying to be a good employee, a good partner, a good daughter, but I can’t. I cry all day long, at work, at home…. I cey myself to sleep most nights. I just feel like life is tooo much for me and i can’t be happy or satisfied with anything. I work 9h a day, 5days a week. And I just pay rent, some groceries, take my girlfriend on a date, help parents with a bill et safi t9ada salaire i usually get my tram card at the begunnign because I know that I won’t be having any money after the first 10 days of the month.
I just feel like there is more to this, if this is life I don’t think I can keep on doing this. I can’t I’m just so unhappy and I reaaaaally don’t feel like I am capable of these responsibilities…. I still don’t feel like I am emotionally grown nor whatever, I still want to spend time with my parents, I still want to make mistakes… I still want to study I don’t know but mentally I really don’t feel like I can hold all of this. But I do don’t get me wrong !!!! And I would like to believe that I am doing a good job at it. Walakine I can’t right now. All I do is cry and be sad/ mad and angry. Should I go see a therapist or something? I don’t have the budget for mental health yet hhhhhhh but yeah!

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u/Real-Ad5550 — 11 hours ago
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LAVANDER MARRIAG Gay for woman

Hi, I’m a guy who was born and raised in Spain but is Moroccan, and my whole family is Muslim. I’m looking for a woman from a Muslim background to have a lavender marriage. What I have in mind isn’t just a disguise—I’d really like to find someone who can be my support or my best friend, someone I can build a family with, even if we’re essentially best friends. The details can be discussed and worked out, but in the end, people like us either live collectively by supporting one another, or we’ll always be alone.

Much support to all my ex-Muslim friends, brothers, and sisters

Tambien en español ..

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u/Careful_Effort3687 — 1 day ago

i was overreacting ?

Yesterday, I talked to someone on Grindr and we really vibed. We liked talking to each other, and he was near me in Takkadoum. So we decided to meet near the mosque in Takkadoum.

After I arrived, I tried to call him on WhatsApp, but his voice was very quiet so I couldn’t hear anything. Then he accidentally sent me an audio saying: “Wsh hada, howa zam... li 7da posta?” ( like he was talking to someone)

When I heard that, I quickly changed the location. I went to a place where there was a cop nearby and sent him the new location. When he arrived, he said the first place wasn’t safe for him because there were no police around.So in the end, I cancelled the plan because I felt uncomfortable and unsafe.

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u/SpikelRobin — 23 hours ago

People are coming out as gay more easily these days when you show them that you are gay-friendly.

Yesterday, I met a guy in the old medina of Fes. He is not from Fes, so he asked me about a coffee on the rooftop of a riad there. I was headed there too, so I told him, “You can come with me, I’m going there.” We walked together, and he asked me if I was going alone. I told him, “Yes,” and he said, “Me too.”

I asked him where he was from, and he told me that he lives in Tangier but is originally from Casablanca. I told him that I’m originally from Fes, and he answered, “I like Fassis.”

We arrived at the coffee place, and he offered to buy me a drink because I helped him. I refused at first, but he insisted, so I accepted. We got a table. I ordered an avocado juice, and he took a black coffee.

We talked a bit, and then he noticed two gay guys in front of us، they were talking in that stereotypically gay way , and he asked me, “Is this normal in Fes?” I said, “No, but this place is gay-friendly.” He replied, “Nice, I like gay-friendly places.”

Then I told him, “I bet you searched for this place exactly because you heard it was gay-friendly.” He laughed and answered, “Yes, I heard some rumors.” Then he continued, “To be clear, I did some gay stuff before. I think I’m bisexual.”

I asked him, “Like what?” He said, “I’ve had sex with guys many times in Casablanca and Tangier, but I like women too.”

I said, “Great, are you a top or a bottom?” He answered, “You guess.” I told him, “You look very manly, you have a deep voice, and you’re straightforward. I think you’re a top.” He replied, “Smart boy.”

Then he asked me, “And you? What are you doing here? Why are you in a gay-friendly place?” I said, “Guess what?” He answered, “Oh my God, you’re gay or bisexual too.” I told him, “Yes, I’m gay.”

He asked, “Top or bottom?” I said, “You guess.” He answered, “Hmm… you’re wearing slim jeans, your voice is sweet and calm, you’re a little shy, and the way you walk… I bet you’re a bottom.” I laughed and said, “Yes, it wasn’t hard for you haha.” He replied, “I have experience with bottoms, so I can recognize them easily.”

We kept talking about life and what he does, and then he started talking about his sex life, some really wild stuff. At first, I thought he was lying, but at some point he asked if I wanted to see some pictures and videos, and he started showing me. He really is wild: threesomes (MMF,MMM,MFF) different experiences, many partners… and he wasn’t lying about his size his dick (21cm).

Then he told me to show him something too. I told him that I don’t show videos with people I hook up with. He said he understood and told me, “Just show me yourself.” So I showed him some solo videos and pictures. He liked me and started complimenting my ass. He told me that my jeans were not doing me justice, and honestly, he was right, because they make it look pretty normal for some reason.

He started flirting with me, but honestly, I wasn’t really in the mood for sex or flirting. He was like, “We can go to my Airbnb now,” but I told him no, that I wasn’t in the mood that day. I said I could just give him my number or Instagram and maybe we could meet tomorrow. He accepted and told me that he would stay at the coffee place until he found someone on Grindr to spend the night with.

I stayed with him while he was scrolling through Grindr, and eventually he found someone nearby who was in another café, so I left before the guy arrived.

Later that night, he messaged me and told me that the other guy refused to spend the night with him, they just hooked up quickly and then he left, and that he was still horny. So we started talking in a flirty way and shared nudes and videos for the whole night.

Now we’re going to meet again today at the same coffee place.

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u/raf199 — 4 days ago

Internalized homophobia or a dude pretending to be a girl

Hey, so a couple of days ago I posted about my ex-situationship and this “girl” slid into my DMs… The account had 0 karma and was made recently, I think like 3 days ago or something. That was the first red flag, but I answered anyway.

She said she felt bad about what happened to me and that she had a similar experience with her ex (a girl), bla bla. She told me her story and we kept talking for a couple of days. That’s when I started noticing some weird patterns…

She expressed that she was interested in me, which honestly I found weird, mais 3adi, I know some people do that. I was honest and told her I don’t feel anything towards her and I’m not really looking for anything right now, but who knows, maybe if I got to know her more things could change.

Now here’s where I started questioning who TF I was talking to

When she talked about her ex, she said that her ex “turned her gay” and that she wouldn’t be gay if it wasn’t for her, and that she “ruined her"

She says she’s bi, but she can’t stop talking about s3x, specifically with men… and she told me that I’ll “never understand” since I’m a lesb, and I have try it with man to know if I am really a lesb ... And I quote “until a man throws you around and fcks your brains out”... Hmm… okay tf? She said it multiple times too, even after I expressed my discomfort.

Then when I started talking about the LGBTQ community, she told me “ghire tay5awro” and that she doesn’t consider herself gay or part of the community and she'll never be.

When she asked if I wanted kids, I said yes, and she was like: “Well that’s disgusting, we’re gay, we’re gonna ruin them, and gay people shouldn’t have or want children.”

When I told her I’m a feminist, and she went on this huge rant about how the LGBTQ propaganda “ruined” me, how this mentality is stupid, “ ghire tane5awro,” that I’m woke, bla bla… a whole rant about her miserable life and how men disappointed her, but she still loves and trusts them more than women and that she did men wrong multiple times but are still nice to her, and that girls are more shitty out mesmoumine than men. Like okay, I understand everyone has their own experiences, but girl be fr

And then I told her I genuinely think I’m talking to a dude, and she was like: “Well if you want, ndiro appel vidéo and I’ll show you how my body is beautiful and everything f blastha…”

Honestly, after writing all this, I’m convinced it was a dude, because no girl is this shallow and one-dimensional mais bon…

So yeah, make of this what you want and be aware, losers lurk within this subreddit....

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u/MoreRedThanWine26 — 6 days ago

As a feminine straight man i find it really hard to date, sadly i come from a traditional environment (like everybody else i assume), and every time i open up t someone i end up either being bullied or made fun of.

Is there any chance i can find my soul mate in this cruel world? I'm already starting to loose hope lil by lil.

Some of you might say that i don't belong to the sub reddit for being staright, but i have always had a feeling of belonging to the community.

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u/Rich-Rutabaga6918 — 7 days ago

Roommate search

Looking for a roommate(girl) to share with me an apartment in sidi maarouf or near it I'm still looking for a good place to rent

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u/Ok-Jello2500 — 1 day ago

THE MAJORITY OFC!! not everybody, because i know some amazing people. But still!!

3lach nta katkon ghadi m3ahom mzyan w homa baghin ghaynta9mo man hada w hada w ydwiw b khayb 3la ba3diyatom w 3ada kayn li7as braso ra howa raboka l a3la. 3amri n3awd ndkhl dik application lkharya (grindr) even the friendships made up from there are shit.

Ps: i’m writing this post feeling angry cuz i just had a huge fight in the street with a gay friend who lives nearby and i was close to him. I’ve always spotted his flows but I NEVER MENTIONED EM TO HIM gha bach mayb9ach fih l7al and YET howa l3aks kaybda 3liya 3lach katmacha w katmil janbi (i have problems sometimes walking straight lol like you know many people can’t walk str8 w katb9a mra mra t9iso b katfak w kda). He said to me if u gon bump on me again let’s not meet anymore (we’ve been friends for 4 months meeting everyday) and i always listened to his problems even tho i be so drained emotionally i still give him time but he was all time NEGATIVE ( i should have stopped beinv friends long time ago i just didn’g wanna lose a queer guy living next to me wsf), and today when he said it this way we kept on arguing til we started fighting and throwing hands. I had to stop myself and told him let’s walk and not say a thing tanbardo, wsalna lwa7ad blasa chdito man dra3o w jit an3an9o ngolih sorry if not walking str8 or me hanging my arm around your shoulder makes you uncomfy and that i wouldn’t do it again (wa5a ra it’s all normal w i’m a very discrete guy so ra makan3aya9ch gha howa lima9ros man aya 7aja, we be standing in some neighborhood kaygoliya 7ayad mnhna anbano mchbohin and tf we’re just standjng like any regular dudes, and i never criticized him!!!), 7ayad liya idi w galiya ana makan7maaalch liy9isji w sf drab fiya w zad f7alo (HE MIGHT BE READING THIS POST, AND IF YOU WERE HIM PLEASE NEVER TEXT ME BACK AND FORGET EVERYTHING WE EVER HAD AS FRIENDS). Sf rja3t ldar galt lih sorry if i made uncomfortable (even tho i don’t see wtf is wrong with him like as many people tana makan7asch brasi takanl9a rasi i don’t walk in a str8 line) mohim b9ayt akantlab mno sma7a. Khsar 3liya kalma wa7da ser raja3 rask w 3ina mandwiw m3k matb9ach t3aya9 ( i always act manly and make sure not to show off anything w gha 7itach 3ziz 3liya i used to to lean on him f tri9 in a no zesty way lol and i be telljng him clmpliments apparement ma3jboch dakxi). I BLOCKED HIM DABA W THANIT wakha j feel bad wasting 4 months being friends with a judgey toxic guy.

I’m 21yo and he’s 18yo for reference.

I’m verh sorry tawalat 3likom had drama w rwina but i neeeeeded somewhere to share this :/

No more community for me except the few amazing people i met from this sub irl!

Ach ban likom f hadchi? Ps: khona nsit magaltch f post bli he lied chhal hadi about his name 3 FUCKING TIMES!!! kan awl mra tla9ina galiya akram and when we kept on meeting everyday for a month i found out in his tiktok acc he had a different name galiya gha fake name hadaka and i didn’t believe him fach tla9ina galiya smiyto alae w bli gha kan careful w sc and i was okay witb it wa5a b9a fiya 7al kna chhar kantla9aw w kadab 3liya, W TAAAAL MANBA3D I FOUND OUT HIS REAL NAME IS X( a different name than the previous ones), i still was mad at him but mabghitch n7akar wa5a b9a fiya 7al and he didn’t even appologize. yarbiii how can i be tuis fool, stupid and naive tfooo. I guess this whole thing thought meto read red flags next time and not let em pass by easily.

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u/Infinite-News6560 — 10 days ago

I don’t understand this country so being gay and trans or in general is seen more evil than being rapist I’m not even joking

No it’s doesn’t make sense can’t we just fkg breath in our own skin we cant even book a psychologist or therapist because they won’t hear us ,how can are we supposed to live in this shitty hole

I really need therapy I can’t go to one because I’m part of lgbtq I can’t come out to anyone not even my mother who birthed me how I’m supposed to live this way I cry every night my throat is sore

This country is killing us :(((( it’s destroying us we’re tired to fkg tired

Whatever your gay lesbian bi trans

It’s gonna end you and left no crumble

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u/ResearcherSingle1190 — 4 days ago

Makan3memch but rah it’s abt 80% dyal mascs they be treating other mascs b7al their enemies like bro cmn hhh all of it either for fems wla cz they are good looking 3lihom like srsly this shi need to stop thlekt waa 3la choufat ou hating for literally nothing rah lmghrib fih trchma dyal driyat lmima matb9awch diro chouha fraskom ela wed driyat it’s not a fckg competition lmima 🙏🏻🙏🏻

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u/mrdytmrthamskhotmha — 7 days ago

I have been a lurker for a long time on this subreddit and i see a pattern that bothers me, this is a heavy topic so buckle up, folks, I hate when i read in this subreddit some random white (either from NA or EU etc...) person speaking about the fact they struggle with their sexuality in morocco meanwhile us, litterally grew up in the country and had to face every single hardship either to exist normally (which is unlikely) or survive until our situation gets better (aka immigration)

I'll throw myself as an example, I'm trans lesbian woman who lives currently in the EU i can get my treatment just fine even tho i don't have a single paper to prove i can stay legally in the country i'm in, but at least i get to live fully my sexual and gender identity, that's a life i never dreamt of in morocco, and let's not speak about the dolls that still live in morocco barely getting any Estro or community care from other dolls, or the gays who need to navigate their life in the harshest ways possible whether it's in public school, family reunions, and the lesbians who, on top of all of that, gotta face the sexism, misogyny, lack of visibility, forced marriages etc....

On the other hand when i hear a random white immigrant say "I had to walk longer so i don't bump into anybody i know" i really feel 0 empathy because with a single thought and empty page on your passport, white man, u can leave, some of us sadly can't.

Anyways this was my rant after the lesbian visibility week and since pride is coming, stay strong yall ❤️

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u/Potential_Cancel_T — 8 days ago

It’s been three years since I had that situationship with this girl. It was really painful to get over her, but I’m glad I did, it took me about a year.. so it's been 2 years since I was over her for good...

But today I had this dream that shook me to my core, and I couldn’t stop thinking about her all day...

Then I checked the date and realized it would’ve been our anniversary.

Like… what the hell, brain? Get over her already and let me live, for God’s sake it was only a situationship ... A 3 months situationship 😭

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u/MoreRedThanWine26 — 8 days ago

Trans Women without Labour, what are the possibilities ?

I am a trans woman on hormones, and I am living in Morocco.

Lately, I have been trying to apply for jobs, but it seems very hard for me to get one. I try my best to secure an opportunity, but the moment I reach the interview stage, a lot of stress hits me. Sometimes it becomes so intense that it makes the whole interview go wrong.

I have also been trying to find a job in a space that is non-discriminatory, where I can feel safer and more respected. But I am still not sure which fields could be possible for me, especially in my situation.

What do you think are the fields or work opportunities that are possible for my case?

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u/Scared-Guide6407 — 2 days ago

Agadir lesbians

Guys are there any lesbians in agadir? I mean well of course there is like bano at least pls pls bcz awili c pas possible, bon ay whda nhdr m3aha is straight atp😔🙏🏻

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u/danielle_levine — 3 days ago