It's hard to learn this map when people can literally enter ur spawn and fight you when you enter the second room. You can't expect to have brand new people push through the first wave of enemies and have the knowledge to prepare for a potential ambush. I was prepared but I just had 2 other teams push my spawn at Preservation and lost a 3 way fight minutes into the game and thought to myself damn this must suck for new players I can make another loadout but they probably consistently can't.

I have been playing with full crossplay all this time and only tried the "only console" setting a few hours when starting the game.

Obviously it takes a few more minutes to run, so I kept it On since then.

However, yesterday I used the "only console" option again and wow, I notice a lot my improvement. The runs were more balanced to me and my exfil ratio clearly increased.

From now on, I prefer to wait 2-3 more minutes to run for a better 25 minutes run experience.

EDIT: Skill issue? Probably, but who cares? Games are made to enjoy.

Look, I've had my problems with Cryo these past few weeks. But right now its insanely atrocious. I'm trying to show my friends the map but its constant spawn rushing. We had a team camp our spawn in cargo for 20 minutes before getting the best of them. I''ll be honest, who is this made for? This is not "fun" gameplay and feels like a colossal waste of time, and we can't even interact with mechanics without getting spawn rushed.

None of the people I play with want to continue if this is type of content moving forward and to be honest neither do I. This doesn't even feel like an extraction shooter anymore.

Sponsored Loadout Playlist is awesome though - Keep that stuff up.

Bungie should make sponsored kit playlist/BR a free to play game mode so new players get a taste of the greatness that is marathon. It will also cater for more casual gamers. With either very limited vault space or none at all, it should incentivise players to want to use their extracted loot by buying the full game and boost player population. Ive also seen other people mention having a WEEKLY sponsored kit for Cryo, initially i thought this would be a bit much but having re-thought, it would incentivise more people to try cryo weekly, get better and dilute the queues more with less sweats.

Marathon is awesome, the community is great and this game needs to cater for as many people as it can whilst still holding its highly competitive nature.

Edit: Bungie will obviously need to uplift their anti-cheat capabilities

I and many of my friends have been genuinely fearful of the Cryo Archive. A big part of that is the feeling of obligation to bring in "Purple" gear just to survive, knowing we aren't as skilled as the other players.

I’ve started to get over that fear, but now I’ve hit a wall: my Purples are dwindling. To keep up, I’m spending 10–15k credits just to meet a 5k requirement. From both a learning and incentive standpoint, Bungie and the player base would benefit from more casual, less "decked out" players queuing for Cryo. Adding a buyable, pre-set Cryo-Sponsored kit would go a long way in giving players the nudge they need to learn the layout and mechanics without the punishing overhead.

having to wait until season 2 is dumb.

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Feedback: Add the ability to commit Salvage to Faction Upgrades before the Full Requirements are met. (Suggested as: "Let us commit salvage to upgrades to free up vault space.")

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I suck at this game, everyone seems to talk about 0 to hero runs, and crazy loot they found on perimeter that had golden shields and what not.

But after more than 130h I haven't even beaten a single warden. I haven't entered a locked room, I haven't even found a key for any of them. I can barely find blue shields let alone purple. People talk about entering and looting pinwheel like it's the easiest thing in the world, but I've only managed to do it a few times.

I'm at a point where doing missions solo is too hard, but most randoms I play with do not turn on their mic, and insist on killing every AI we come across.

And I am obsessed with this game. I watch tutorials and guides all the time, I can get some kills, I'm confident running around the map, my decision making is ever improving, but idk man...

It doesn't seem to matter if I'm using a freekit, or my favorite purple weapons with everything at my disposal, I can't seem to be able to take a bit more risk and win.

Anyway, I know some days are just like that, and I do take breaks when that happens, but this has been happening for days. I feel defeated 😔

Any tips or words of encouragement for a fellow "skill-gapped" runner like me?