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The Suppression

In 1889, the Second International declared May 1 as International Workers' Day to honor the Haymarket martyrs. It became a global holiday, except in the United States, where it is actively ignored. Why? In 1958, President Eisenhower officially declared May 1 as "Law Day" in the U.S. - a direct counter-programming effort to erase the labor origins of the date.

The Story

On May 1, 1886: 40,000 workers in Chicago went on strike demanding an eight-hour workday. The movement was massive and growing.

Three days later, on May 4, a protest rally near the Haymarket was drawing to a peaceful close when police arrived and demanded dispersal. Someone threw a bomb. Police opened fire. Chaos ensued.

What followed was not justice, but a textbook case of suppressed history.

The "Trial"

Eight anarchist labor organizers were rounded up, though police never identified the bomb thrower. The jury was handpicked by a bailiff who publicly declared: "These fellows are going to be hanged as certain as death".

The judge, Joseph E. Gary, was openly biased. The prosecutors put not the bombing on trial, but anarchy itself. Attorney Grinnell told the jury: "Law is on trial. Anarchy is on trial. Convict these men, make examples of them, hang them and you save our institutions, our society".

On November 11, 1887, four men were hanged: Albert Parsons, August Spies, George Engel, and Adolph Fischer. A fifth, Louis Lingg, committed suicide in his cell the night before.

Before his execution, Spies spoke words that define suppressed history itself:

>"If you think that by hanging us you can stamp out the labor movement — the movement from which the downtrodden millions, the millions who toil and live in want and misery - the wage slaves - expect salvation - if this is your opinion, then hang us! Here you will tread upon a spark, but there, and there, and behind you and in front of you, and everywhere, flames will blaze up. It is a subterranean fire. You cannot put it out"

This is not obscure history. It is suppressed history. And it happened in America.

The Legacy

The executions turned the activists into "Martyrs." In 1889, the International Socialist Congress (Second International) declared May 1 as International Workers' Day to honor them and demand the 8-hour day .

Global annual protests built momentum. In the US, the fight took decades, but the groundwork led to:

  • 1916: US Adamson Act establishes 8-hour day for railroad workers .
  • 1938: US Fair Labor Standards Act establishes the 40-hour work week nationally .

In short: Haymarket didn't hand workers a law; it gave them dead martyrs. Their sacrifice catalyzed global protests (May Day) that eventually forced governments to legislate the 8-hour workday

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Sources

Altgeld, John P. Reasons for pardoning Fielden, Neebe & Schwab: the Haymarket anarchists. Chicago, Ill.: Published for the Illinois Labor History Society by the C.H. Kerr Pub. Co., 1893.

Chicago Historical Society. The Haymarket Affair Digital Collection. Chicago, Ill. Available at: https://resources.ials.sas.ac.uk/index.php/eagle-i/haymarket-affair-digital-collection

Chicago Historical Society. Chicago anarchists on trial [electronic resource]. Library of Congress, National Digital Library Program, 2001.

Eisenhower, Dwight D. "Proclamation 3221—Law Day, 1958." February 3, 1958. The American Presidency Project. Available at: https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/node/307595

Smithsonian Institution. "Haymarket Martyrs' Monument, (sculpture)." Smithsonian American Art Museum, Art Inventories Catalog. Available at: https://siris-artinventories.si.edu/ipac20/ipac.jsp?&profile=ariall&source=~!siartinventories&uri=full=3100001~!177964~!0

Spies, August. Gallows speech. Quoted on the Haymarket Martyrs' Monument, Waldheim Cemetery, Forest Park, Illinois. Erected 1893.

u/Evening_Lawyer6570 — 10 days ago

A common misconception among people in Pakistan and many other countries is that Secularism is against religion. And there are certain people who promote this agenda here are some links

"Secularism is la deeniat" by QAR
khuda se bhagawat by dr israr
Mufti Wajidi
ghamidi's lack of knowledge on secularism

Now, it's a technique to simply spread propaganda among people who don't understand such terms and consider specific people a reliable source. We shouldn't distort terms to spread our own ideology. There are many common strawman fallacies used to make it a negative term and make people believe that it's totally against religion like secularism is atheism, secularism should solve all the problems, or it is lawlessness.

Well explained by Wahiddudin khan

Here's what early seculars had to say about it:

>"Secularism is not an argument against Christianity. It is one independent of it. It does not question the claims of Christianity. It deals with the nuts and bolts of this world." -Holyoake, The Principles of Secularism (1871)

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Locke was a believing Christian. He wrote extensively about God and Christianity. He believed the state should stay out of religion precisely because he took religion seriously forced belief is no belief at all.

>"The word secular does not mean irreligion or atheism or even stress on material comfort. It proclaims equal respect for all faiths." - Nehru, Discovery of India

Secularism means that the state is NEUTRAL between all religions

And every citizen is equal before law, regardless of their faith

You might have heard people quoting examples of turkey or some other countries where they banned certain religious practices and then they try to conclude that Secularism is anti-religion. but that's simply not true. that's just a failure of people to implement secularism properly. and you can also say that they were simply not seculars.

Don't be afraid to see "ism" and think it's some sort of religious ideology and your religion is under attack. It's just a term used to define a principal which says that every citizen is equal regardless of their faith. peace

u/bumbuummm — 9 days ago
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This subreddit is a space for anyone interested in socialism, anti-capitalism, and the struggles of ordinary people, especially in the context of Pakistan.

Socialism, at its core, is about building a society where wealth and power are not concentrated in the hands of a few but shared more fairly across society. It emphasizes cooperation, public control of key resources, and ensuring that everyone benefits from what society produces, not just elites.

This is a broad and inclusive space:

  • Marxists, Marxist-Leninists, democratic socialists, and other left perspectives are all welcome
  • You don’t need to be an expert, this is also a place to learn
  • If you’re curious, questioning, or just want to understand more, you belong here

What this subreddit is for:

  • Discussing Pakistani society through class, economics, and power
  • Learning and explaining socialist ideas (simple or advanced)
  • Talking about workers, inequality, and everyday struggles
  • Sharing news, opinions, and analysis

What this subreddit is NOT:

  • Elitism or gatekeeping
  • Blind propaganda
  • Hate, sectarianism, or attacks on others

First discussion:

What issues in Pakistan today do you think are most connected to inequality or class?

You don’t need theory, just your perspective, experience, or observations.

This is a new community. If you want it to grow into something meaningful, participate—post, comment, and help shape it.

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u/bumbuummm — 12 days ago

As far as I understand marxist theory, and feel free to correct me here, Capitalism is the stage preceding socialism that must take place. To elaborate, it means you cant just go straight from feudalism to socialism. I wont pretend, I know exactly why but a very compelling reason seems that it's difficult to develop class consciousness on a large scale without the exploitation of the capitalists.

In a feudal economy, the distinctions are more tribal, ethnic and religious so it's hard to unite people around the idea of shared purpose of the workers. So if that it the case would it not be a priority to accelerate the shift from a feudal economy to a capitalist economy first?

Like serfdom exists in a large part of the country, people are indebted to their landowners till they can work off their loans. If for an example you went straight to socialism and distributed the land out to the peasantry, would it not lead to an immediate reduction in food production at least for a while leading to potential famines? Of course it will take time to equip peasants with the same knowledge and equipment as their land owners and all that time, people still need to be fed.

A pretty glaring rebuttal of my argument is literally the fact that almost all socialist experiments occurred in feudal economies, not capitalist economies for e.g Russia and China. But I feel that's the 1 reason they had the few flaws they did. Socialism raised the standard of living for people in these countries massively but at the cost famines and the loss of some political and religious freedoms. Could that not be avoided through an intermediary capitalist stage where income equality was at least less worse than feudalism and political awareness among the lower classes is much great?

Lmk what u guys think.

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u/Serious_Camera_7039 — 11 days ago

Dr Israr is no doubt a very famous and very respected scholar. thu he has some very extreme views about religion, he is often seen as promoting specific political ideology which he was very open about and was very proud about being a fundamentalist Muslim and promoted fundamentalism link link2 openly.

Today, Youth is very much attracted to him and his ideology and there are a large number of people who supports his views. and those who are not very educated about deen often get radicalized from this because it is one of the best starting points to enter the hood. Also, that he had some positive views about Afghanistan link which implies that he wanted to create a similar khilafat in Pakistan as well.

He proceeds to quote Freud's example to justify his ruling by saying Parents get involved with their children link . To avoid that, this ruling is necessary. Before jumping on me, lemme tell you that Dr israr is not anywhere close to be even named as Scholar. here is the prove link, he accepts this too. link

here is a link of another scholar on pardah link

and Ghamdi's opinion link1 link2 which is one of the most rational one.

u/bumbuummm — 10 days ago

I thought I'd share my reading list to kick-start a recommended reading list for this sub. I hope this will be helpful not just for baby leftists who don't know exactly where to start but also the old guard might find some utility from it. Most of the socialist theory by Marx, Engels, Lenin etc. is available for free on the internet. The rest I'm sure you can find elsewhere ☠️ 

Please feel free to comment any of your recommendations.

Level 1: Foundations & Core Concepts

  1. The Principles of Communism by Engels
  2. Wage-Labor and Capital by Marx
  3. Value, Price, and Profit by Marx
  4. Socialism: Utopian and Scientific by Engels
  5. Introduction to Political Economy by the Economic Institute of the USSR
  6. Serve the People by Mao
  7. All About Love by bell hooks

Level 2: The Mechanics of Revolution & State Theory

  1. The State and Revolution by Lenin
  2. Dialectical and Historical Materialism by Stalin
  3. On Practice by Mao
  4. On Contradiction by Mao
  5. "Left-Wing" Communism: An Infantile Disorder by Lenin
  6. The Dual Power by Lenin
  7. Reform our Study by Mao
  8. Combat Liberalism by Mao
  9. On Correcting Mistaken Ideas in the Party by Mao
  10. How to be a Good Leader by Zhou Enlai

Level 3: Advanced Strategy, Organization & Party Building

  1. The Foundations of Leninism by Stalin
  2. Marxism and the National Question by Stalin
  3. Oppose Book Worship by Mao
  4. Where Do Correct Ideas Come From? by Mao
  5. Some Questions Concerning Methods of Leadership by Mao
  6. On the Party: Concerning the Mass Line of Our Party by Liu Shaoqi
  7. On the Party: Democratic Centralism Within the Party by Liu Shaoqi
  8. Get Organized! by Mao
  9. The Revolutionary Path by Hồ Chí Minh
  10. Correct Handling of Contradictions by Mao

Level 4: Imperialism, Geopolitics & Historical Analysis

  1. Imperialism: The Highest Stage of Capitalism by Lenin
  2. Blackshirts and Reds by Michael Parenti
  3. The Jakarta Method by Vincent Bevins
  4. The Shock Doctrine by Naomi Klein
  5. The Hundred Years' War on Palestine by Rashid Khalidi
  6. The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine by Ilan Pappe
  7. The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy by John Mearsheimer & Stephen Walt
  8. Rule By Fear by Ammar Ali Jan
  9. Wretched Of The Earth by Franz Fanon

Level 5: Culture & Future Horizons

  1. If We Burn by Vincent Bevins
  2. Against The Web by Michael Brooks
  3. Reinventing Love by Mona Chollet
  4. Will To Change by bell hooks
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u/comrade_daddy_ — 9 days ago

Are we really just unintelligent?

Short answer: No

Lemme prove it in easy words. The idea of Intelligence test has its own history. There are several social issues attached to it directly. They are used to justify racism, colorism, patriarchy and what not. They simply just relate it to almost anything and come up with things like "see people with white skins are always intelligent".

Now first of all, it's largely a pseudo-science. How? Define intelligence? just like you can't define knowledge or goodness. Its definition can vary from person to person. it's almost impossible to come up with a good answer. And intelligence is not fixed, instead it's elastic as Burt says. Secondly how are you going to measure it? it's not like weight or height. here's an article explaining it.

IQ is largely a pseudoscientific swindle (Argument Closed) | by Nassim Nicholas Taleb | INCERTO | Medium

The intelligence is highly dependent on your environment and society. You can be intelligent and still not reach its full potential because of not getting enough education. And it is highly dependent on the sort of food you consume daily and the sort of environment you live in.

The idea of Intelligence was revived by a book named "Bell shaped curve" by Richard Herrnstein and Charles Murray. it tried to prove the gap between average IQ of Whites and Blacks. It was an attempt to make people believe that Black people are just violent and stupid because of their genes.

Now this argument was itself debunked a long time ago in a book, entitled "The History and Geography of Human Genes" by Luca Cavalli-Sforza. But it is still used by some people to gather all the Chuds under the flag of White supremacy and racism. And people like Elon Musk are often seen as promoting the same ideology by again and again posting the specific incidents involving some immigrants or black people. And try to prove that it's always the immigrants and Black people who commit such crimes. That's how they radicalize the youth.

Elon Musk posted about race almost every day in January | Elon Musk | The Guardian

Now, it's not a surprise that late capitalism is showing its visible effects in the market. And people are developing class consciousness against Bourgeoises class. So, Elites like Elon who was desperately trying to join Epstein Island are trying to save their wealth by giving the youth a new direction. As the job markets are cooked so rather than blaming Capitalism and exploitation, immigrants are getting blamed for eating their jobs and they are giving them the hope that by solving this problem everything will get better, as they say Billions must smile.

Now keep that in mind, Elon have a large number of immigrants working in his company as well. You can see the clear hypocrisy itself.

Hence, the racism is becoming more and more common on social media like Instagram and Twitter.

u/bumbuummm — 7 days ago

Internationale in Pakistani Punjabi

Uth, duniya de ghareeban

Jaag, jahaan de maskeenan

Sadda haal ae dukh bharya

Saanu faasle khoon naal bhijaan

Ae jung sadi aakhri

Jide vich hove faisla

Bein-ul-aqwami geet gaa

Uth jaa eh waqt aaya

Koi bachawan areya nahin,

Na sher, na talwar, na teer.

Apni azadi bachaani ae

Puttar chak de phattay hun samajh jaa

Ae jung sadi aakhri

Jide vich hove faisla

Bein-ul-aqwami geet gaa

Uth jaa eh waqt aaya

Hukumat churandi ae, qanoon vi andha ae Nahi ae kisse de baap da mulk

Sab da haq, sab da khana eh sada nara

Ae jung sadi aakhri

Jide vich hove faisla

Bein-ul-aqwami geet gaa

Uth jaa eh waqt aaya

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u/True_Mastodon7042 — 8 days ago

Study Group/Reading Club for socialist theory

Im interested in making a discord server for new leftists/learning leftists to read, discuss, and dissect theory and books together, daily or weekly on calls. as well as have people who are interested in left wing politics learn and discuss with us. If enough people here want that then i will send an invite.

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u/Local-Dependent-376 — 8 days ago