r/KidBuuvsBuuhan

Give me any argument for Buuhan that doesn't involve Goku and guidebooks

Give me any argument for Buuhan that doesn't involve Goku and guidebooks

You Bumhan enthusiasts keep putting ridiculous demands on us Kid Buu activists, like "If you can't prove Article 1, Section 5, Subsection 10, Clause 3 of my argument is wrong, then your entire point is false. If your argument falls into some arbitrary category that I've labeled as invalid, then you're wrong." Okay, so explain how Buuhan is stronger than Kid Buu without using guidebooks and Goku. Seriously, do it. Please explain to me how the guy who was too slow to stop Goku and Vegeta from having a full length conversation before fusing is the strongest Buu. You obviously can't use the anime because the anime says like 10 times Kid Buu is the strongest. That's not mistranslated either, sorry!

u/KeySlimePies — 6 days ago

Might as well just post this and close the subreddit lol

https://capsulecommentary.com/2025/02/21/kid-buu-vs-buuhan/

Can't choose a single flair since they all apply. Another user on here has been posting scans taken from this deep dive. If you read this entire thing (I mean the whole thing, not just a few paragraphs and bounce) and come out still thinking Buuhan is stronger than Kid Buu, then I will honestly be surprised.

Honestly this guy knows more about the Buu Saga (maybe Dragon Ball in general based on his other deep dives) than maybe anyone else on Earth and I'm not exaggerating

u/KeySlimePies — 10 days ago

Let's play a game. Give me all the arguments you have to defend that Kid Buu is stronger than Buuhan and you'll see how he fits into at least one of these categories.

u/Dangerous-Series4064 — 7 days ago

daizenshuu, super exciting guides and db forever on buuhan sides : all 3 of them are supervised by toriyama

-first picture is from the daizenshuu 7 (we know toriyama stance on daizenshuu) it says absorbing the dai kaioshin SLIGHTLY weakened kid buu (fat buu is slightly weaker than kid buu)

-2nd and 3rd pictures are message telling you toriyama SUPERVISED the super exciting guides, and therefore they are bringing the truth (you can translate by yourself if you dont believe me)

-all the other pictures except the last one are from the super exciting guides, they describe goku and kid buu EVENLY MATCHED, with kid buu taking the upper hands thanks to his regeneration and endurance, i put the translated and untranslated version so you can check

-last picture is from dragon ball forever, describing goku and kid buu battle as a tied

all those books are made or supervised by toriyama, and they all said the same things (which is what we can see in the manga)

kid buu and goku are evenly matched therefore buuhan SLAMS kid buu, SLAMS kid buu

u/a-bus — 6 days ago

UNIRONICALLY THE SCALING OF THE BUU SAGA

Buff Buu>kid buu>FP ssj3 goku>ssj2 vegeta>>>super vegito>>>base vegito≈buuhan>buutenks>ultimate gohan>ssj3 gotenks≈super buu>super gotenks>base gotenks(post training)>Ssj3 goku(dead)>fat buu>Majin vegeta>evil buu>good buu

Explanation:

「天下無敵の合体戦士・ベジットでさえも、魔人ブウとの戦いは、一進一退の攻防が続いていた。実力はまさに伯仲!果たして、この壮絶な戦いの行方は...? "Even for the amazing Vegito, his battle against Super Buu was proving to be a challenge. The powers seemed evenly matched." Episode 270 timestamp 0:15‐0:45

「…あー、ダメだ。このなかじゃ、力が半分も…いや、100分の1も出せやしねぇ…」 "...Ah, it's no use. Inside here, I can't even put out half... no, not even \(1/100\)th of my power..." episode 274 timestamp 12:00-14:00

「…チッ、こいつら本物と同じ強さ、同じスピードを持ってやがる…!」"...Tch, these guys have the same strength and the same speed as the originals...!" episode 274 timestamp 15:30

"ベジータたちの実力を超えるほどにレベルアップした,"

"The two entered the Room of Spirit and Time, and hurriedly trained as Gotenks. As a result, Gotenks leveled up so much that his strength surpassed Vegeta and the others." Daizenshuu 7 page 92

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u/WorkingPsychology439 — 5 days ago

in xenoverse 2 theres a quest where buuhan fight all the other buu in a 1v1, here’s what he says to kid buu

the quest is called the birth of the ultimate majin

buuhan fight fat buu, super buu and kid buu and when he saw kid buu he’s embarrassed at him and after beating his ass he calls him a half baked lookalike 💀 complaining that kid buu can barely last a round of sparring 💀

poor kid buu 💩

u/a-bus — 5 days ago

Power evolution of Buu, rankings of Buu forms and Buu Saga and manga statements.

Buu Saga ranking is valid to both manga and anime.

Manga statements by Goku, Vegeta and Supreme Kai.

u/Dangerous-Series4064 — 4 days ago

Ultimate Gohan > Super Buu > Full power SSJ3 Goku > Kid Buu > SSJ3 Goku vs Kid Buu

So, Ultimate Gohan >> Kid Buu, well:

Buuhan = Kid Buu + South & Grand Kais + Piccolo + Goten + Trunks + Ultimate Gohan

It's not even close.

u/Dangerous-Series4064 — 2 days ago

Who TF Cares?

Kid Boo was literally the worst thing to happen to the manga. He can't talk, he's not compelling, he's a dummy, there's just absolutely no good qualities to him. Fat Boo was great because he had that whimsical attitude while still being able to evoke fear while Super Boo and his transformations were a much better version of an evil Boo, being cold and calculating.

Kid Boo is strongest, but who the f**k cares? That's all he has going for him. A big, stupid pink gorilla wannabe. I can't believe there are still people out there that think OG Broly has no personality when this oaf exists.

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u/Secret_Wear_2233 — 6 days ago

all the future source that could end the debate

akira toriyama died last year so he will never personally answer the question, the closest thing we will get from his view on the subject will come from these projects

xenoverse 3 has been in development for 7 years and toriyama was deeply involved, could easily end the debate since some quest will most likely have kid buu in it and maybe buuhan too

beerus remake, the bog arc had some interesting elements calling goku the strongest after killing buu, goku talking about kid buu as he trained etc, could answer or at least give some clue

dbs time patrol because in the manga theres some stuff about the kaioshins magic and evil buu/uub is mentioned, not sure if the anime will completely follow the manga if it does we might get new answers

u/Cooz78 — 6 days ago

ssj3 goku (kid buu) VS super vegito

I wanna hear some pure statements and titles from the kid buu fans to scale goku above vegito

u/Team_raclettePOGO — 3 days ago