r/Frozen

I'm a huge fan of Elsa's Potrait in this Particular Dress ❄️

It is not AI I promise! It releases on Disney Plus on the 27th

I don't think I'm the only one, but it's been bothering me. There are just too many emotions at the end: joy (including the realization that Frozen isn't over), the end of a wonderful film, and the end of a wonderful story. It's too much for my sensitive little heart...

Anna does seem to like having him to lean on though!

So you guys might know Elsa very well from all the movies and shorts you have seen so far.

But in the end of the movie when she came back after saving Arendelle & being unfrozen herself i really feel like Elsa has changed, not just by looks but also her personality. I won't say it's a bad thing but it's definitely noticeable.

Like she talked and acted a bit differently than what we have seen so far of her in all the movies and shorts. At the end of the movie Elsa seemed lighter and free because she found out her Purpose and even more she got rid of her Queenly duties.

i don't think Elsa deep down wanted to be a Queen, she must have did that out of Obligation and her Responsibility as the Natural Heir to the Throne.

Now that we have a Free and Purpose Driven Elsa ahead I wonder how different she will be as opposed to what we saw so far. I hope we get to see her real & natural personality and self come up in the upcoming sequels.

What do y'all think about it? ❄️

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I'm going to rewrite the earth giants scene for this as an example script.

So you know how Olaf hides from the giants? He must of hid near both Elsa and Anna in what we see. To give Elsa and Olaf more together time in terms I would of rewritten the scene as : as the giants near, Olaf instead of being brave should've went and hid with Elsa or one of the sisters scared. Like any little kid his age would do in such scenario. Its kind of like how they changed Elsa from panicked to quite chill for a tense scene.

If Olaf would of hid with Elsa it would of been interesting how she would put up with a scared snowman and huge giants made of rock ready to destroy anything. I really feel like it would've been really interesting to see and probably would've ended cute.

Like if I were a kid here in the earth giants scene, there's absolutely no way I would hide by myself. I would literally hide with Elsa or Anna, even at my age now I still would hide with one of them.

Same thing with Anna, it be interesting how she puts up with a scared snowman and huge giants made of rock ready to destroy anything. Also would be cute to see. I feel like Olaf was portrayed as too adult like for his age in this scene for whatever reason ( you all might agree here) anyway te majority of Frozen 2 Olaf is otherwise acting like a normal kid his age with too much knowledge and facts.

Feel free to post your thoughts if Loaf is too adult ish for his age .

Has there been news about new frozen novels coming out?

And if they are the writers that did forest of shadows and polar night

Those books are really good and great

I hope they release new novels before the release of the third film very soon

Besides the obvious, what do all four of these girls have in common?

I think the President of Music telling the team of "Frozen" that it was standard practice for them not to have songs after the second act was ridiculous--especially since every Disney film afterwards contradicted this practice. Also weird to me that Elsa had a villain song that they never included on the soundtrack, but they didn't wanna make a Hans villain song. I also think it may have been to a mentality of "we can't have a serious moment AND a song," since Kristen Anderson-Lopez said she considered a reprise of DYWBAS, but then thought it'd be jarring in the moment. In any case, I think Hans deserved one rather than the film feeling self-congratulatory about having a major twist and the first Disney fairy tale with a twist villain.

While I don't think Hans needed to be a villain to get the story across (his role could've easily been taken by the duke, who was already a pretty straightforward villain), I do think he deserved a villain song. The Broadway adaptation kinda did a half-dash job for me, with the 2nd reprise of "Hans of the Southern Isles." Not only is it short, but it almost feels unnecessary. It isn't long or expansive into his character, and it almost validates it being a dialogue like it was in the film--and I DESPISE having to admit that. Late as it was in the story since he was a twist villain, I think he could've had his own song or at least a reprise of "Love is an Open Door" (easy to take advantage of) that expanded on his dysfunctional family, AKA a cautionary tale for what Anna and Elsa could become. Again, it has more impact if we saw it more and Hans was more present and the audience saw his real side, but I'll take what I can get.

"Frozen 2" largely doesn't have a villain. While King Runeard started this issue due to his fear of magic (I admire the consistency of this in both films that the more "civilized" people are scared of it in contrast to those who live outside of the urban culture), he's already dead and largely a plot device more than a plot device. I saw a review of the film, and someone said it was probably done that way so you wouldn't feel attached to a biological family member of the heroes being evil, but we're here now. While Pocahontas is a controversial film, I do think the song between the colonists and the natives would've been good inspiration for the rising tension and explosion between the Northuldra and the people of Arendelle. Or just give Runeard a solo to explain his motivations and why he/his culture fears magic. It was kinda like a post-colonization PSA without really getting anyone's hands dirty by making the bad guy someone dead and Arendelle not being destroyed. I constantly regret this film kinda having to do some retroactive lore-filling with stuff that would've been a factor/brought up in the first movie, but that's how it works when a sequel is made for financial reasons over creative ones, and then the creative team is screwed over. Honestly I think the film still needed more retuning, possibly an overhaul, but with what we got, I wish we got a villain song for Runeard. I'd take it over Olaf's song.

I swear, we better get a real villain and a villain song in the third film. I'm not saying they gotta be over-the-top mwahahaha (I do like complex, deep villains, not flat ones like older films), but perhaps a supernatural threat, an Eris-like villain from "Sinbad"?