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It Really Bothers Me That No One is Giving Sophia a Second Thought
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It Really Bothers Me That No One is Giving Sophia a Second Thought

It could just be me , but it really bothers me that no one is questioning that Sophia keeps calling a priest “her dad” and to the best of my memory he had a suitcase and she didn’t ? Maybe I’m remembering incorrectly but I don’t remember her having personal belongings packed. My husband was raised catholic and I occasionally attended Protestant services as a kid , and the only people who dressed like her “dad” were priests, who don’t have children .

I know it’s probably a stupid thing to obsess over but it was really bothering me for some reason 😆

u/Whats-Ur-Pointe — 3 days ago
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Completed rewatching the show. I think i figured it out!

I think the answer to this show has been simple and laid out from the very beginning. Save the kids.

This got misinterpreted throughout the show making Tabitha and Jade think they need to save kids from centuries ago. However, we have also been told that you can’t change a story once it’s been told. Doesn’t it make sense that maybe, just maybe, the solution all along has been for parents to protect and save their own children?

The writers said that the answers at the end go back to the beginning. The first thing we see in this show is a father choose to stay out at a bar leading to his daughter being killed. Boyd tells at him and says “A man protects his family!”

We later find out that Boyd left his family searching for answers which led to his wife going crazy and nearly killing his son.

The trend continues over and over. Jim and Tabitha constantly abandoning their kids to search for answers. The MIY told Sara to hill Ethan and she almost got away with it. Victor’s mom left him and his sister. Jade has been abandoned by his father. The examples go on and on.

There has to be a reason that Henry came back to this town… and so far he has been the ONLY parent to stick close to, and try to be there for his son above all else. i believe this will lead to their salvation.

Ethan has been right about literally everything since the show started… but his parents refused to listen and kept going off on their own journeys. Now Jim is dead and Tabitha has been warned that she is running out of time. Maybe if Tabitha tries to save her own children for once- it will lead to more information on how to get home.

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u/ro524008 — 3 hours ago
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From tv show miniature

Ciao ragazzi, volevo condividere con voi un piccolo diorama di Fromville. Non rappresenta una scena specifica, ma piuttosto diversi momenti della serie, e devo ancora aggiungere altri dettagli. È il primo diorama che realizzo, quindi siate clementi!
(Nella prima foto ho aggiunto il cielo sullo sfondo con Gemini, il resto è tutto reale)

u/Shipol_13 — 1 day ago
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VERYY important character death prediction

entirely a theory but idk if you guys watched that one season 4 "critics say" trailer with a big emphasis on kenny and smiley. but i think episode 7's title "best laid plans" refers to the proverb "the best laid plans of mice and men often go awry" (as someone else in the sub posted) and i think they'll prob plan to catch a monster to get information just like boyd said in an earlier season. sadly as the proverb says even the best of plans will go wrong and kenny will have to sacrifice himself. then this would tie into the title of the next episode "heavy is the head" (heavy is the head that wears the crown) which clearly refers to boyd and might see him dealing with such a huge loss to him, being kenny, all because of his plan. would this make sense? (not spoilers im posting this a day after the release of 4x04)

u/mediocrest0 — 2 days ago
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they were so scared of being caught reading kids book together and decided to hide it to look even more suspicious lmfao

u/snotpop — 3 days ago
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What’s up with the dog(s)?

Exhaustively noting all the dog appearances they are as vital as any other scenes

Interaction with Boyd have always been helpful/friendly:

  1. S1E8 Boyd gets lost in the forest after he finds the dog for the first time leading him to talisman cave, I should also note it seems like dog looked back at someone here same way Jim was looking around in S4E2. We hear a twig snapping sound from offscreen
  2. S2E2 After Boyd leaves dungeon and is disoriented the dog possibly takes him to safety through forest? He ends up with Victor and Tabitha in that truck
  3. S2E10 After Boyd breaks the music box and says you don’t break me, dog appears barks at him and leaves

Jim/Tabitha:

  1. S1E4 When Tabitha and Jim are searching for Ethan and he is with Victor, two dogs surround them, only time we have seen multiple. No idea what this was for, strangely enough Victor heard the dog bark through the faraway tree when he was with Ethan here and Ethan did not hear it, Victor then comes and shoots in the air which leads to dogs running away who were around Jim and Tabitha

Boy in White:
We see the dog with BiW in the town massacre scene when Victor comes out of the root cellar

Misc:
Victors drawings of the dog alone and with a couple.

What are we leaning towards good/bad someone instructing the dog?

u/nothing_ftw — 17 hours ago
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Story walker theory

Just finished episode 4 of season 4 and I noticed a few things in this drawing that might actually be important to escaping this place.

I circled the elements that stood out to me most:

🧡 — The bird Ethan took to the lake.

💛 — The religious figure/entity Fatima was building.

💙 — The mushrooms Jade took.

🤍 — The box where Boyd found the ring.

🩷 — The symbol.
This made me wonder if, instead of Julie giving Randall the other bookmark, maybe she’s supposed to put it inside a bottle and hang it from the bottle tree.

🤎 — This tree is drawn differently from the others in the picture.
Could there be a reason for that? Maybe it’s connected to the bottle tree somehow?

🖤 —This is obviously representing Julie and the hair is cut short too, but maybe the story Walker in the drawing is actually a previous story Walker from a past timeline hence why the image shows a male in distinctive builder uniform. Should they be looking for clues on who this person is?

Am I overthinking this, or do you think the drawing is hiding clues in plain sight🥴

u/newjeansmdhhh — 3 days ago
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The Man in Yellow is Azazel and his consort is Lilith. The origin story of FROMLAND begins in the Garden of Eden.

The Man in Yellow is Azazel — the chief fallen angel from the Book of Enoch and the demon the Day of Atonement scapegoat is sent to in Leviticus 16. He's the angel who taught humanity forbidden knowledge, and he and his companions were punished for it. He's basically the fallen angel of Jewish apocalyptic tradition. KNOWLEDGE COMES WITH A COST is basically his life story, and goats and sacrifical rams are his call-sign.

Lilith is in the show too — Adam's first wife in Jewish folklore, who refused to submit to him, fled Eden, and became the original demon-queen and child-killer of the night. In some traditions she and Azazel are the original couple — she fled Eden to find a celestial lover, and was forced to sacrifice her children.

Here's the evidence on the show:

💃 John Griffin has said the MiY was inspired by a street dancer in a yellow suit he described as "dancing and moving with such joy, it looked like an angel trying out his body for the first time" — Griffin literally calling him an angel. https://youtu.be/-mLxQTgZj_E?t=3371

🐏 The hanging ram. (thanks Robert Saunders for pointing pointing out it is a ram not a goat).

https://preview.redd.it/p6yffnstjc0h1.png?width=2340&format=png&auto=webp&s=5ce993d5585ae3d35595a238ae4e42af5420a946

📖 Sophia quotes Genesis 22 — the Akedah, the binding of Isaac, where the ram appears caught in a thicket as Isaac's substitute

📖 Sophia quotes Joshua 7 — the Achan story, where one man's hidden sin causes the entire nation of Israel to suffer collective punishment. Azazel is the epitomy of collective punishment

🔮 The MiY is a shapeshifter (Sophia is just one of his disguises)

🪞 Mirrors all over the show — characters constantly looking in them. Azazel is specifically called out for teaching humanity to make mirrors.

https://preview.redd.it/usvrmrrwjc0h1.png?width=1392&format=png&auto=webp&s=e9661177587cb9940eae5046d78c56afe4bbf08a

🐐 Goats everywhere — Boyd finding the goat (in a drawing and in reality), Nathan's goats, Alma the goat.

Knowledge comes with a cost and goats are basically Azazel's call-sign

😇 Elgin literally talks about real real biblical angels — the terrifying multi-eyed kind, not Renaissance cherubs. "He calls the kimono wraith an angel directly.
Elgin: Remember now, there's a reason why angels say 'Fear not' when they saw someone. Even Gabriel was terrifying.
Julie: Wow. Look at you, Mr. Bible Study. 

🙃 The upside-down angel picture Ellis drew. At first, it's upright. Later, it has fallen upsidedown, hanging by a single pin.

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🥩 MiY eating liver is reminscent of Prometheus's punishment for having his liver pecked out, another giver of forbidden knowledge punished by their god.

🚘 Numberplate beginning with AZ, I.E. Azazel.

https://preview.redd.it/ooo8zzr7qe0h1.png?width=1792&format=png&auto=webp&s=ec3865774e2529cc22cdf1d807a587cd6a23c805

Now here's why every one of these points to Azazel specifically:

The ram. Leviticus 16 is the only ritual in the Bible where a goat is sent to a named demon — Azazel — into the wilderness. It's literally where the word "scapegoat" comes from. The Akedah substitution-ram is the same sacrificial tradition. Sophia speaks the Akedah chapter, the show shows us a ram. Twice signed.

Collective punishment. 1 Enoch 10:7–8 says: "the whole earth has been corrupted by the works of Azazel." One angel's sin condemns all of humanity. That's exactly the theological mechanism of the Achan story Sophia just recited. She's quoting Azazel's signature.

The shapeshifter clue is the killer for me. In the Apocalypse of Abraham (a real Jewish apocryphal text), Azazel disguises himself as a bird and tries to interrupt Abraham's sacrifice. Just as Sophia's wrist is broken, so too is the bird's wing. Perhaps she transformed and followed them through the woods. 

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Mirrors are his. In 1 Enoch 8, Azazel taught humanity "the use of antimony for the eyes, the beautifying of eyelids, every kind of costly stone, all dyes, and the making of mirrors" — alongside weapons. Mirrors are literally one of the things he taught humanity. That's why everyone in this show is staring into them constantly.

Knowledge is his sin. Same passage in 1 Enoch 8 — Azazel as the teacher of forbidden knowledge. The MiY's whole vibe is "I'll tell you secrets you weren't meant to know."

The upside-down angel. 1 Enoch 10:4–6 — Raphael is told to bind Azazel hand and foot, cast him into darkness in the desert of Dudael, and place jagged rocks upon him. Face-down in the pit. The image is direct.

Elgin's "real biblical angels" comment tells us we're in 1 Enoch territory, not Sunday-school Christianity. And in 1 Enoch, Azazel is the chief Watcher, the most-named, the one who gets the worst punishment. He's the fallen angel of that tradition.

LILITH:

🦉 The owls. Eloise drew an orange owl coming out of a basket. Elgin's grandmother knitted owls. Scott McCord draws an orange owl at FROM conventions and has called one Victor's spirit animal in interviews. The word KN-OWL-EDG-E in the barn cuts out OWL.

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In Hebrew tradition (Isaiah 34:14), Lilith is translated as a "night monster" or "screech owl," placing her firmly as a creature that is awake while others sleep.

She is often associated with causing sleep disorders like insomnia, sleep deprivation, or sleep paralysis (the "night hag" or "night mare" visiting those sleeping alone).

7 Angels - 4 Cursed Humans

In fact there are signs that 7 fallen angels, once willing to teach humanity and later punished collectively for it, are taking possession of those on the show, waiting for characters to be suffused with sufficient emotion for them to make the transition, like pain, sadness, joy, or hope. It may even be some already have been, some overtly, some simply influenced, like Ethan, Donna, Kenny, Tilly, Boyd and Clara.

credit to source: https://www.reddit.com/r/FromSeries/comments/1igkxwt/angel_boyd/#lightbox

Indeed, with Jasper the doll, the nkondi-like totems, the moving scarecrows seen in the trailer, and the creation of a golem, it would seem these angels can possess objects, and perhaps even corpses, temporarily too, like demons. It's possible the monsters are the spirits of the original villagers possessing the corpses of the victims of Fromtown from the 50s and 60s. The magic involved likely involves bodily fluids, organs, hair and/or teeth.

I also believe there are 4 cursed humans reincarnating, though the 4 may reference some other set of beings, perhaps demons. There are also animals that these angels can transform into. Here's my map so far. You may have seen some of these symbols recurring on the show.

https://preview.redd.it/rrwalxhjic0h1.png?width=1522&format=png&auto=webp&s=396e96bf776fe9dc34397698887d1cfa18837821

Indeed, it is my belief that these angels have been living on the island of Newfoundland for much of their history, taking on the roles of the various mythical and religious figures in legends about mysterious islands, potentially including:

MOUNT ARRARAT & CANAAN
GREEK STROPHADES
CANAANITE OPHIR
EGYPTIAN PUNT
WELSH AVALON
IRISH PROMISED LAND
SINBAD'S ISLE
VIKING VINLAND
DANTE'S COMEDY
TEMPLAR/CATHAR ESTOTILAND
TUDOR NEWFOUNDLAND

This is why the show is layered with Greek, Norse, and other mythological references — these aren't red herrings, but rather cycles of the same seven angels appearing in different cultural costumes across history.

The Norse layer is important. Leif Erikson reached Newfoundland around 1000 AD and built a church there in Vinland. His sister Freydis was on a later expedition — famous for finding a beached whale, a conflict between christians and pagans, and a brutal massacre of her fellow Norse settlers. I think the Vikings are the original builders of the church we see in Fromland, and they're why Duluth was mentioned on the show — Duluth has the famous Leif Erikson ship replica in Leif Erikson Park. Ethan's book bag in Season 1 is covered in whales, which is Freydis-coded directly. The Vikings landed in Jellyfish Cove.

Then comes the 1498 layer: John Cabot's lost expedition, accompanied by a priest (Giovabnni Carbonariis), a barber/surgeon (unnamed) and a sherrif (Richard Amerike) who legend says named America (Mr Liu: "he want AMERICA name". His ship was called the Matthew, and Boyd's Cove is a real location in Newfoundland associated with early contact between European explorers and the Beothuk — the indigenous people of Newfoundland, known for painting their bodies red with ochre (which would explain a lot of the red imagery on the show, including the red-painted figures).

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In my reading, Abaddon takes on the role of a genuine Beothuk devil they genuinely called "The Man in Black" who lived by a lake with his sea-monster servant — likely portrayed in the show as a Newfoundland red lion's-mane jellyfish, the largest jellyfish in the world, native to those waters. Remember Boyd's line: "we called him Schmuckers because he loved Jelly."

The seven angels get trapped in a witch's bottle by a cunning folk woman from the expedition (you'll have noticed how many bottles appear throughout the show — and Pratt, the surname of several characters, means cunning in Middle English, alongside many other cunning-folk references). She is accused of being a witch using the Inquisition's book Malleus Maleficarum (Hammer of Witches), a world bestseller at the time (Khatri's bestseller references to Sarah) — which is why we see a hammer used as a torture implement on the show, and extras carrying hammers in background shots.

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Part of how she traps the angels is by challenging them to a game. Medieval tarot cards — and this is the tarot theory I've been developing since before Tilly ever pulled out a deck — alongside crokinole-style medieval board games. Game of Goose is the strongest match: its hazards correspond directly to the places in Fromland (the Well, the Hotel, the Maze, the Prison). Pachisi is another (the cross-shape, and 12 safe-castle tiles that mirror the talismans).

I suspect this game takes place right after the sacrifice.

More on the games here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/FromTVEpix/comments/1fxvi8v/imo_what_tilly_says_about_the_tarot_cards_are_the/

and here
https://youtu.be/nmtqYOSH1XI

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u/TaranMatharu — 2 days ago

The Grand Gooligog is a …. Spider?

I had this theory when MGM dropped it on their instagram we have never seen Spider being bad per se on the contrary I would argue only time we have seen something akin to its home in S1E10 … knowing there are horrors in the forest on which talisman cannot work, Boyd and Sara got out of there pretty easily after a small spider bite and a scare from Abby AND they actually found the lighthouse.

Spider bite did not have a super negative effect on Boyd nothing compared to worms cicadas etc which one would expect if its the big bad

What if its not and the author of book according to S4E4 made the grand Gooligog based on a spider and its helpful in that book explaining story walking and stuff, everyone focuses on cromonockle but this book is equally if not more important and I would argue the creature looks to be inspired from a spider if not a spider and might just help

Edit: I see it is a stretch calling it a spider but It could be that they only did it to make it less obvious under the garb of children’s book to make it less scary

u/nothing_ftw — 1 day ago
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Most intriguing drawing

I don’t think we have had this scene play out yet, it looks most interesting to me because it maybe a door to the void / abyss but that doesn’t sit right since either Victor or Eloise drew this. I think Miranda did not do crayons and this looks childlike

Is this a dark room where POV character is sitting and someone opening the door? Or more mystical like again the void or abyss ? Also who do we think this is ? Also victor and I hope Eloise too is pretty good at presenting surroundings if they exist this is deliberate black crayon

I read somewhere this looks like Boyd stuck in that well from season 2 but that doesn’t ring true to me to its rectangular shape, well was squarish

u/nothing_ftw — 3 days ago

Fatimas Golem - People realize they can shape the story

I think Fatimas Golem will come to live andpeople realize they might have more influence over what happens in Fromville..

For example: Boyd really needed something to protect them, and suddenly the talismans appeared. Jim tells Ethan that the Lake of Tears from one of his books is real. And the whole concept of story walking, which also came from one of Ethan’s books, turns out to be real too. And then it's his sister, who already knew about the concept, who is actually able to do it.

What if the golem that Fatima builds actually works, and that’s how they realize they can shape the story themselves? Maybe previous residents did the same (without fully understanding it?), like with the scarecrows at the settlement.

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u/paulafranka — 2 days ago

Donna’s ending

This is Donna last day of filming, she’s holding her look… also, they film the episodes in sequence, so it’s probably she isn’t going to die next episode. In fact, don’t believe she’s going to die, Jeff said she is his favorite character…

u/04136032 — 1 day ago

Why MIY Isn’t Stopping Julie

In the cycle we’re watching, Sophia (MIY) knows that Julie is a story walker and that she’s trying to change things. Yet he doesn’t really interfere with her. The only time we’ve seen him directly provoke Julie was at the diner; other than that, he hasn’t made a move against her. I think the reason lies in the Man in Yellow’s belief that the story being told cannot be changed. He’s so confident that no matter how much Julie story walks, she still won’t be able to alter anything, because those stories have already been told and finished.

However, I still think that what Julie learns by visiting different stories could become important information for both her and the others. Because of that, I believe the Man in Yellow will eventually make a move against Julie in future episodes. And I think he may not do it directly, but instead by entering Sara’s mind and manipulating her into doing it for him.

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u/No-Significance-1130 — 16 hours ago