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Doing a sanity check here. My apartment building in NYC needs new buttons for 2 elevators and 12 floors. The estimate is $8,400 including labor. They are using Monitor brand.

Does anyone have suggestions for a way to knock down the price? Alternative brands?

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u/JonnyEp67 — 14 days ago
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This feature of the BRAND NEW elevator the housing authority just installed in my building

u/Mean-Hawk3057 — 1 day ago

I live in a 4 story condo with a small residential elevator by Otis (small - single shaft stopping at each floor). This is a fairly new building so we are just taking over the management duties from our developer now.

Recently we tried to pass our annual inspection and the elevator locked out when they were testing the emergency line. Otis had to be called in and they basically told us we needed to do a Signal booster so that there can be updates pushed to our system, and it would cost $10K to do this. We tried asking what the specific issue is and what is the scope of work for the signal booster involved, and we just get literally an email from the elevator rep that just says this - "Signal Booster - $10K"

Now, mind you - this was all working fine before and had passed inspection previously. Considering we're kinda cornered by Otis here, not sure what the heck is going on and just trying to better understand this.

We do know the elevator entertainment screen stopped displaying information (like weather) a few months ago. We assumed this is due the signal issue and might be related to this signal booster. Looking at the set up - it feels like its hooked up to a Otis One Video Gateway that has a cellular modem inside the box - which has a weak signal. I'm guessing this might be why we have limited data connection

We also have a dedicated phone line with backup battery that hardwires into the elevator room, so I don't know how we failed the emergency call situation.

We've done a couple of things to see if we can resolve this issue A) supplied a direct ethernet cable to one of the gateway ports and B) installed a cellular signal boost to provide better cell phone coverage from outside to the elevator room.

Tried to get Otis to help us understand if this would work - and literally we get back Signal Booster - $10k.

Can someone give us advice on what the heck is going on? Happy to install whatever we need to get this correct but almost feels like they're trying to just milk us for no reason. We're already on an annual maintenance contract with them for like $5K a year.

Please any advice would be super appreciated.

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u/Winstonthedood — 10 days ago

Would anyone be interested in their mid-highrise 7+ year old building to adapt to users in real time. Imagine, some dude on floor 20 always calls the elevator at 7:00 am, the elevator/s will wait near that floor to minimize wait times. Or imagine the same dude just stops calling it at 7:00 am, the elevator will adapt to reduce average wait times. What do you think?

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u/Jumpy_Cap3912 — 14 days ago
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Does anyone know how much elevator noise/vibration is to be expected with rooms like 21/26 K1 that share a wall with the elevator? Would it impact one's stay there?

u/Fun_Possession_9495 — 11 days ago

Hello my American brothers, i’m a European Lift tester( i think you call this an adjuster) and i’ve always wondered why the majority(American guys) in this group prefer a machine roomed lift over an mrl, in my country it’s a bit uncommon to even have a machine roomed lift present for any lift installed after the late 90s, and all of the engineers i talk to here have a good opinion on the mrl option including myself i think it’s a good solution, so basically

what is the reason behind your guys love for machine roomed elevators and hydraulic elevators?

is it all because service and breakdowns are easier in this environment?

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u/Electronic_Candle978 — 13 days ago

Other than this post on the subreddit, I haven't really seen or heard mention of water hydroelectric elevators (basically, closed-loop hydraulic elevators that use a water-based fluid instead of oil) anywhere, even though the post alleges that some places still installed them into the post-WWII era (1950s-1970s).

Why is this? Were they a terrible idea? Did all of them get modernized to oil, or are some of them still chugging along on water-based fluids? And could one get a water-hydroelectric passenger or service elevator built for them (presumbly by an independent) in this day and age?

(Part of why I ask this is that the carwash people have been busy tinkering with non-oil-based hydraulic fluids using water/glycol or water/polymer mixes, and it seems that going to water-based fluid would get rid of the need for oil separators and possibly even shunt tripping, both of which have attendant headaches of their own.)

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u/RequestToCheckOut — 13 days ago

Hello, I'm an employee working at TK Elevator in South Korea.

It seems like neither the labor union nor the CEO in Korea knew about the KONE M&A in advance. I was wondering if there are any talks about restructuring in other regions around the world because of this

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u/Spiritual-Smell2549 — 13 days ago

Leaky new turnover

Now I’m no expert but I think the oil should be contained within the pump unit, jack, and oil line. Job has been on maintenance for 4 weeks. Turned over to customer first week of April.

u/Elevatorninja82 — 7 days ago

Operator here, Recently took over a property with 2 elevators that have been having "Issues".

Car 1: Door sometimes thinks its jammed, its not. Pretty easy fix not the biggest deal and fairly common. (I wish Schindler could just dial it in although. 1-2 entrapments a month and the tech just saying it "works fine" and leaving is pretty annoying. Considering we get billed either way.

Car 2: The big problem. There were some issues with the car far before my time. These guys are about 11 years old now. When I took over, I was told it just doesnt listen to commands, wont accept fob reads and people cant call to floors. I was informed that Schindler says its the security companys fault, security says its Schindlers fault. They have reprogrammed the car twice and changed the reader.

Now, initially one would think its the moving cables that are the problem. EXCEPT, after tracking it for about 2 months now... I think otherwise. This car after every run, say goes from 1st, to 3rd, to 11th, back to 1st, then does a calibration run. 1st->7th Floor (door will not open), back to 1st. Will not accept floor calls, fob reader wont read and appears on system as bit mismatch. This checks out to me considering calibration has highest priority and the fob reader would get an error sending data, then giving me a bit mismatch.

My main curiosity here, It is NOT normal for an elevator to calibrate after every trip correct? I am not crazy? This has been escalated now that a law firms client wandered onto the elevator, and it started its calibration cycle. Her thinking she was trapped, had a full panic attack screaming bloody murder and freaking out half the building thinking someone was being attacked. I fail to see how after 2 reprogrammings nothing has been solved, the issue is worse (not to mention, the elevator refuses to take more than 2 floors qued no matter what the weight on the elevator is) That we would have to pay out at full to have them program again to try and fix what the last fixes made worse.

I should clarify, the initial reprograming was for an "issue" of the elevator not listening to commands. It was just an owner of multiple floors staff being annoyed they cant take an up elevator 1 floor down and it wouldnt listen to their fob.

Sorry for the long read, if I get any info id be more than estatic. I probably just need some affirmation before I call in. And if I am in the wrong, I fully accept that and learned something.

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u/SaintThor — 14 days ago

Hey guys, just got a job as an account manager for Kone. What tips do you guys have for me? I want to make friends with the technicians and be a good coworker to them.

I was recently working at another construction company and worked with the mechanics (loved them!) in the field so I’m kinda familiar with the elevator world but mostly new install.

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u/madtron26 — 13 days ago

https://preview.redd.it/uzblcop0vdyg1.jpg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ebe7c2ee6b03c5813e657b9258d08231d0c09fde

https://preview.redd.it/7mffdpp0vdyg1.jpg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7c1092f325f3871b05337cdd0cb28c68b89b284e

https://reddit.com/link/1t0752m/video/o0k44eg1vdyg1/player

Hi guys

I'm looking to move to a new apartment since I'm terrorized day & night by a 90s Schindler elevator at my current place. The place I toured is brand new, and has a KONE elevator. I took a picture and video (3rd floor to ground floor). My apartment is on the top and 5th floor. Could someone tell me if this noise is normal? I'm paranoid and have gone totally bonkers on elevator noises since living in my current place, which has been hell. I can't decide with a neutral objective mind. Thanks for your advice!!

EDIT: my question is mainly for noise, not for safety :) I'm petrified that I'll hear this elevator inside my unit day & night (which is what happens now with the old Schindler).

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u/SoulCrusader9 — 14 days ago

Not talking about old vs new. I've been in modern buildings where one elevator glides perfectly and the one next to it lurches at every floor. Is this a maintenance thing, a load balancing issue, or just variance in how they were installed? Curious if anyone in the industry can explain what's actually happening mechanically.

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u/Cyn3ux — 14 days ago

I was wondering recently, if you have a brake pick fault on an mrl while the car is at the tip of the hoistway, how do you access the brake? This is hypothetically a simplex

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u/clarkspark96 — 10 days ago

I want to become an elevator technician

Hey guys I’m currently exploring where I can get the best pay, currently I work in the airline industry as an A&P. I’ve been looking at this trade for about a month, I was wondering how difficult it is to get into the trade and what prerequisite is needed before getting to the union.

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u/Some_Stand9493 — 7 days ago

Does anyone know what controller model number this is? The data tag says 1965? I’m trying to find out what type of controller it is so that I can get a set of prints for it. Thank you.

u/Remote_Front5705 — 13 days ago