Landrover LR4 for our use case - day hiking, over wilderness camping and trailer camping ? Is there something better ?
*overnight wilderness camping
We are not really "overlanders" but I thought the experience of this group is closest to what we want to do so I'm asking my question here.
My GF and I live in Calgary, AB, right next to the Rocky Mountains, Banff, Lake Louise, Kananaskis, Waiparous and a short drive from all that BC is.
We are avid hikers and outdoor lovers. We do a hike in the mountains almost every weekend. We usually have a fire and dinner after our hikes before heading back home. We also cycle and may take up mountain biking in the future. We also kayak.
I'm an avid dirt biker. The trail heads we ride from are usually on forest roads. I ride year round which means driving icy and snowy unplowed roads in winter.
We love camping but not in a tent. Many of the areas we frequent have lots of bear activity. In some areas camping is only allowed in hard sided trailers. Tents are either not recommended or outright forbidden.
One of the major disappointments of our lifestyle is that all these activities are done as day activities instead of overnights. We currently use a Lexus RX as our trip vehicle. It works as it has a decent amount of storage volume for gear, food, firewood, BBQ, etc. and it is AWD but we are straining it in almost every dimension. A Lexus RX was never designed for rough logging roads.
I'm not a 4x4/off road guy. I have a dirt bike if I want to tackle tough trails. The only thing my vehicle needs to do is get us to the trail heads and the best wilderness camping spots.
I am thinking of getting a Land Rover LR4 so we can increase the scope of our adventures. My thinking goes something like this...
- The LR4 would work well for day hikes because it is roomy, nice to drive on highways and will handle rough roads well. It has lots of storage room, even with 4-5 people in it.
- For quick, short overnight stays after hiking (wilderness camping), we would equip the LR4 with a swing away hitch kitchen which would store all of our cooking gear, cooler, dry food, etc. It would be bear proof. That would leave the back of the LR4 open for sleeping. Food cannot be left outside the vehicle in bear territory.
- For camping (glamping) excursions we'd buy a 20 ish foot travel trailer and tow it with the LR4. This would allow us to travel somewhere and make the trailer a home base and then do various side trips with the LR4. A typical excursion trip for us would be Vancouver Island, Fernie, Revelstoke, Montana, Idaho, Moab, etc.
We've considered a Ford AWD Transit van. It would have more room for the overnight trips but wouldn't be as nice as a trailer on the camping excursions. It wouldn't be great as a daily driver. It would be overkill on day trips. It wouldn't off road nearly as well as the LR4.
Transit vans are stupid expensive these days. Converting a van would take a lot of time, energy and money.
I've considered an F150, with a topper. The long bed on the CC (6.5') would have more room for the overnight trips, but not by a lot. It would pull a trailer a little better. It would be an OK daily driver. It would be overkill on day trips but not as bad as the Transit. I'm just not in love with the idea of having a pickup truck and the finish in the bed and canopy wouldn't be as nice as the inside of the LR4.
I've been reading about other SUVs. Not many have a tow rating like the LR4 (7700 pounds) or are as off road capable. Not many have enough room to sleep 2 adults in the back.
I am aware of the LR4's reliability issues. I'm a good mechanic and have a good set of tools. I feel I could perform all the necessary repairs on it myself. Parts seem to be reasonably priced.
It seems kind of funny that a 10 year old vehicle is at the top of my list for our lifestyle. The last year the LR4 was produced was 2016. The LR5 is considerably smaller in the back and less capable off road and most other vehicles I've looked at miss one or more of our check boxes.
Am I missing something ?
Thanks
TLDR: couple wants a vehicle to do hiking day trips and overnight wilderness camping, that is competent on backcountry roads and able to pull a medium sized travel trailer. Is a 10 -15 year old Land Rover LR4 really the best vehicle for this use case ?