u/tiredperson24

Which characters signature outfits do you not like? and Hope that they get given a different outfit in future?

Bit of a none serous nit picky question 😂😂😂😂,

Anyway personally I've never really liked Alastor's outfit its just kinda bland and blends in with the environment and isn't particularly nice to look at tbh I actually quite liked his alternative outfit during the "" Hells greatest dad "" song

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As it was quite colourful and unique and stood out more from the environment and other outfits of characters so I wouldn't have mined this being his signature look tbh even if he didn't wanna keep the green skin lol,

Another one is Vaggie as again I just don't find her main outfit particularly nice to look at and it doesn't stand out much so I wouldn't mind her being giving a new signature look in future as well

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( Me whispers = personally I wouldn't have minded her Easy look becoming her signature look given its more ya know free lol also she probably could have killed all the exorcists during the season one finale with looks alone if that had been her outfit 😏😏😏😏 ),

And I can't think of any others off the top of my head except of course for Husk whose current outfit is a lose and his pilot outfit was way better 😭😭,

What about you?

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u/tiredperson24 — 3 days ago

Even tho its fun as a fanfiction idea I really don't think fallen Lute should happen in the future.

I feel like an issue is a lot of fans don't really think about what it would mean for other characters just that it'd be a cool visual and funny satisfying bit of irony but in terms of Sera's character it would honestly be a total regression

and would make Heaven look even worse if they literally created this problem and then enabled her to become worse over the years and then dumped her on Hell aka the one place where she's actually a threat to anyone in the population simply so once again the person in charge doesn't have to actually deal with the nitty gritty of her problems,

Since that's literally what Sera did with the exterminations where she created them and then passed off responsibility onto Adam which deffo gave him leeway to make them as bad as possible

so how can she claim to be changed and wanting to do better by hell if she's going to literally create a bloodthirsty soldier and then dump her on Hell when she becomes too much of a problem once again turning a blind eye to a problem she created rather than actually dealing with it herself and instead she'd be passing it off to the people she literally wronged,

So it'd not only be terrible for Sera and for Heaven's image but also it'd just be nonsensical since logically Hell citizens are the only people who Lute is a threat to since she Hates sinners and could devote herself to trying to get angelic steel and also we know she looks down on Hellborns as well who are a lot easier to kill,

So Divine judgment putting Lute in Hell and Sera allowing it to happen would not only be bad for the character growth she's meant to have gone on but also its just nonsensical since Lute is logically only a threat to the people of Hell so putting her in Hell literally helps no one except saving some people in Heaven from a bit of mild annoyance lol,

Like I said its a fun fanfic idea but I think the fandom tends to only think about this in the simplest aspects of it being a satisfying punishment but not really ever giving it any deeper thought as to how bad it would actually make others look and how illogical it would actually be.

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u/tiredperson24 — 5 days ago

Well since we know the next short is about Verosika which character are you praying the next one after that is about? ( yes I know this is probably speeding ahead a bit lol ).

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Its been over Two and a Half years since "" Oops "" like come on Viv feed me at least some scraps to keep me alive until season three 😭😭😭😭,

( on a serous note tho it could maybe give a little extra set up for next season either by showing Crim in present or heck it could even be a flashback short to Moxxie's upbringing and showing a little more of the dynamic with his dad now that could be kinda neat ).

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u/tiredperson24 — 5 days ago

Even tho its fun as a fanfiction idea I really don't think fallen Lute should happen in the future.

I used to love the theory of Lute falling but tbh over time the more and more I've thought about it the more I have started to Hope that it ultimately won't end up happening I mean don't get me wrong

I still see some cool potential in it but at the same time I feel like it would kinda be too impractical and shitty of Heaven for it to actually happen in canon so maybe it would be better off left in fanfic territory,

As the issue is that regardless of Wether its Sera herself or Divine judgment it would be really crappy of Heaven to do this since Lute is very much a problem they created and one whose only really a threat to people in Hell

yet they would be dumping her on Hell's doorstep making her their problem since Lute would now have access to as many sinners as she wants

( also Hellborns who need I remind you do not require angelic steel for her to kill and Lute is perfectly willing to kill them )

and even if she is robbed of all her weapons and starts as an average sinner she has the skills and the determination to do what it takes to get her hands on Angelic weapons and once again become a threat to pretty much any random Hell folk she comes across,

So Heaven deciding to do this wouldn't actually solve the problem of Lute for anyone but themselves which would seem really shitty of them tbh especially since they literally created her and enabled her to get worse over the years,

While I am honestly hoping that Lute can turn things around and start to redeem herself by the end of her villain run but if she doesn't then at the very least I feel like a better ending would be Sera accepting her as her burden and striping her of her access to Hell

and her exorcist rank and ensure personally she is never a threat to sinners or Charlie again by keeping her in Heaven where they can keep her eye on her themselves and maybe try to rehabilitee her in other ways over the years

rather than just dumping her at Hell's doorstep and being like

"" yeah sorry we kinda created and enabled this trained killer who hates all of you and wants to slaughter you but she's your problem now byeeeee ""

like I said I get the people who want fallen Lute to happen given the satisfying irony and possible development it could lead to but I feel we kinda can't look past how actually shitty of Heaven it would be,

And honestly it would just set Sera back as a character as well to have this happen since she'd literally be doing the same thing she did with the exterminations by avoiding responsibility for her actions

and dumping it on Adam and Lute which allowed him to run wild with them for years so she could turn a blind eye and have an easy life so Dumping a problem Heaven created and enabled in Hell would be her literally just repeating her major sin and it doesn't help anyone except themselves lol,

So yeah while it may be fun to think about for a cheap bit of satisfaction and is an interesting fanfic idea but fallen Lute I feel would actually just be downright bad to happen in canon given how it would make Heaven look.

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u/tiredperson24 — 7 days ago

I really feel like we all need some positivity so lets all think about what our absolute favourite dynamics are in the show?

( yes obviously I had to include Crimson and Alessio despite their criminal lack of screen time 😭😭).

u/tiredperson24 — 9 days ago

So the most angsty theory/idea that you've had when thinking about what could possibly happen in the future that is definitely very unlikely to actually happen? lol run wild,

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One angsty idea I had is that after next season spends a significant amount of time showing Millie and Moxxie separately dealing with their own fears and insecurities over possible parenthood but stubbornly refusing to Burden each other with their fears

but by the end of the season they have both decided that they do maybe want to be parents and are finally ready to talk to each other after getting Help from their other loved ones only for Mox to be taken by his Dad when on his way to see Millie,

So its this somber cliff-hanger to end the season where Millie is left standing alone waiting for Mox and then in season four there's been a time jump where Millie has already had the baby and Mox has been held captive by his dad for a long time

essentially just keeping him as a slave as he's gonna serve the family and remain loyal one way or another in Crimson's mind and by the time Blitz and Millie finally figure out what happened to him and save him he's been mentally messed up to the point that he is not the same Moxxie that he was before and isn't really mentally capable of being an assassin anymore or even a parent

( at least not the kind who can equally share the load with Millie ya know ),

Ooooh just thinking about the angst gives me power 😂😂😂😂.

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u/tiredperson24 — 11 days ago

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( This image of baby Moxxie is melting my heart 😭😭)

As we the audience see the shoe wash up but its unclear Wether Moxxie actually did see it or not since it was a bit of distance away so I am curious as to how much he actually knows about his mother's disappearance and Wether Crim would have been Honest about it over the years

maybe framing it as something he did for the good of the family so she didn't drag them down by making them weaker and has used it to install even more fear in Mox in the past that he'd do the same to him if he ever became too "" weak "",

Or do you think he would have lied about it? maybe claiming she was either killed by Rivals or he could have possibly claimed that she just abandoned them which would be kinda fucked up

( imagine if he told tiny Moxxie that she left because of him ) or maybe it could just be a case where she vanished one day and Crimson literally never let them talk about it and Moxxie just had to bite his tongue over it

but over the years either figured it out or at least had vague suspicions that he never voiced out loud,

Idk what do you think? I Hope this comes up in future where its either mentioned by Mox or maybe revealed by Crimson to Mox.

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u/tiredperson24 — 12 days ago

So pick a character or characters from either show who currently you either are just meh about or downright dislike and try and think of ways you think the show could change your opinion on them in future?

( Btw I'm meaning characters who you don't like in terms of writing so please no cases like saying you dislike people like Val or Vox but purely for their actions but have no issue with their writing as that's kinda a different thing to what I'm talking about,

However if you do genuinely dislike or find any villain characters meh purely for the way that they are written then that's perfectly fine and by all means pick them but I'm just saying if you dislike a villain as a person but have no issue with their writing then that isn't really truly disliking the character imo ),

So who would you pick and what would you do with them?

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u/tiredperson24 — 14 days ago
▲ 16 r/Vaggie_cult+1 crossposts

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Given how we don't know for sure Wether other exorcists like that one we saw in the brief flashback were ever cast out in a similar manner to Vaggs or Wether Lute simply punished them until they fell back in place

I kinda like to imagine that Lute and Vaggi had an especially fucked up dynamic back in Heaven where Vaggs got extra attention from Lute due to her always being the one to show compassion to other struggling exorcists and of course openly show bits of guilt over sinners,

So I like to imagine that Vaggi sparing the child wasn't her first offence it was just kinda the straw that finally broke the camel's back and is when Lute finally gave up on trying to "" fix "" her and wrote her off as a lost cause

so I find it interesting to think that the Hatred between them isn't just down to Vaggi sparing the child and Lute leaving her for dead but also because Lute was her tormentor

and Vaggi was the one soldier Lute was never able to break no matter how hard she tried since others did show signs of weakness but Lute and Adam were able to either punish the emotion out of them or at least just make them push the feelings down shut up and fall back in line all except for Vaggi,

Idk just an idea I kinda Hope something like this is the case to add a bit more juice and angst to Vaggi and Lute's shared History.

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u/tiredperson24 — 14 days ago

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Obviously I don't wanna see Crimson die in future 😭😭 but it is a likely possibility and a popular fan theory is Moxxie getting to kill him which I could very likely see being the way he gets killed off as well but I do Hope if it does happen

its actually more meaningful and maybe has consequences beyond simply being a brief bit of satisfaction for the audience ya know?

Like maybe if it did end up happening either by the end of next season or in season four sometime after the baby is born

( I'm assuming if the baby is born it would happen either at the end of next season or in season four ) then maybe the popular theory will come true and Crim will try to take the kid either for raise as an Heir or just to kill it for fucked up revenge,

And in the end Mox ends up having to kill him probably just as he's about to kill someone he loves only if it was down to me I probably wouldn't write it as some sorta triumphant or badass moment tbh

I kinda like the angst idea of Mox being Horrified by what he just did and desperately trying to revive him while apologising despite it being clear that he's already dead and Blitz and Millie trying to gently get him to stop and calm down,

And like I said some actual longer term consequences would be good like Mox not only flips through a roulette wheel of emotions afterwards having no idea what to feel but maybe it actually effects his ability to do his Job and he starts not being able to go through killings

instead constantly hearing his dad's voice in his head or even seeing his mother disappointed in him and its clear that killing his dad just broke something inside of him,

And maybe in the end it even causes him to actually quit I.M.P and he probably resolves to focus on being a good dad or at least for a while tho there is also the possibility that he can find other work in future,

Idk that's just one idea but like I said my main point is I Hope if the show does kill off Crim in future then it would have actual weight and meaningful consequences afterwards rather than just happening for a quick bit of satisfaction

and then not really mattering afterwards or changing the characters in any real way as that would be kinda a shame and feel like the character was wasted.

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u/tiredperson24 — 14 days ago

So who is your favourite character from each show? and what would you say is one thing you actually don't like about them despite you obviously loving them overall?

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My two faves would probably be Moxxie and Husk so for Moxxie I Hate how he steals all of Crimson's attention away when it could be directed towards me instead 😒😒😒😒,

And for Husk I Hate how he wears pants and suspenders when he should be a naked and free cat like he was in the pilot so even tho I love both characters these are two black marks against them I'm afraid to say,

What about you?

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u/tiredperson24 — 15 days ago

Not as the result of some big Drama or anything but simply because she decides its maybe time to actually try and take this step in being more independent

( that is assuming Hellhounds are actually allowed to have their own places and they aren't literally seen as pets in the sense that they have to live with their owner at all times which would be kinda fucked up but who knows? 😅😅),

And Blitzo would have to get his head around this probably going full overprotective smothering parent mode or maybe even getting insecure over the idea that she's doing it to get away from him tho obviously in the end

he gets that this was always bound to happen at some point and it is an inevitable part of being a parent that he shouldn't see as a bad thing that he has to stop,

Idk just random shower thoughts I guess,

( am I using that term right? 😂😂).

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u/tiredperson24 — 17 days ago

That could Honestly be a pretty neat moment for Lute and Sera tbh like imagine if Lute's actions in future do cause her to be so blinded by her grief and revenge that she ends up causing big harm to Heaven and maybe even kills Emily or at least causes her death somehow

( like she unleashes Roo on Hell and Emily ends up getting killed by her because she ends up attacking Heaven instead ironically meaning Lute's actions have put Heaven in grave danger ),

and this causes a big "" what have I done "" moment for Lute given that her actions have now cost Heaven dearly and either before or after it could be Sera who gets the chance to let her know that it isn't too late even despite what she's done

and maybe saying that is what gets Lute to help beat the threat or she already chooses to help beat the threat but then afterwards she's ready to lay down her life out of shame

only for Sera to let her know that it isn't too late even despite costing her someone that she loved but she knows that Emily would have wanted her to keep following this path,

so in the end she gives Lute the it starts with sorry talk and so long as she's willing to give up her revenge she can continue serving in Heaven and proving that she actually does regret her actions by helping,

I was just thinking about this recently and it would be neat imo if Sera ended up facing a big loss but stuck to her guns regarding second chances now that she's on the other end

and extends one to Lute after its made clear that she is regretful and is willing to leave her revenge behind and put Heaven's people first again and start working to atone by helping with the aftermath of the damage and hurt she helped cause Heaven.

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u/tiredperson24 — 19 days ago