u/porygon766

Why wouldn’t God think of a better way to forgive our sins.

I have been force fed Christianity since I was a teenager and if we assume that God created everything he created the laws of physics, laws of mathematics, billions of stars planets and galaxies which are billions of light years across. Why couldn’t such a genius of mathematics have came up with a better way to forgive our sins that didn’t involve sending himself down to a random planet orbiting a random star, having himself tortured and executed so that he can forgive himself.

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u/porygon766 — 17 hours ago

The Christian God defies all logic and reason.

Since the Bible was written thousands of years ago, we now have a much better understanding of how big the universe is and how the laws of physics work. Even today, most people can’t even comprehend the magnitude how large the universe is and how small we are relative to the galaxy and stars etc. When we think of God, the deist God or a God who created the universe and devised the laws of physics and just sat back and watched everything happen but doeent interfere in our lives one could make a reasonably acceptable case for that, although not one I would accept. It’s a serious discussion I would have.

The other concept of God is one which there are thousands of varieties like Zeus and Thor and Yahweh etc. One who created everything and watches over us. We don’t need to go through all of those because I wanted to specifically address the most commonly believed God on earth which is the Christian God and it makes no logical sense because Christians are arguing that God, the creator of all things including the laws of physics, laws of mathematics and billions of light years of space, billions of years of time. This paragon of physical science and genius of mathematics couldn’t think of a better way to rid the world of sin than to choose to come to this one piece of cosmic dust and have himself tortured and executed so he could forgive himself.

That is profoundly unscientific and it doesn’t do justice to the grandeur of the universe. It’s petty and small minded and defies all logic and reason.

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u/porygon766 — 21 hours ago

The Christian God defies all logic and reason.

Since the Bible was written thousands of years ago, we now have a much better understanding of how big the universe is and how the laws of physics work. Even today, it’s difficult to grasp how large the universe is and how small we are relative to the galaxy and stars etc. When we think of God, the deist God or a God who created the universe and devised the laws of physics and just sat back and watched everything happen, one could make a reasonably acceptable case for that, although not one I would accept. It’s a serious discussion I would have.

The other concept of God is one which there are thousands of varieties like Zeus and Thor and Yahweh etc. One who created everything and watches over us. We don’t need to go through all of those because I wanted to address the most commonly believed God on earth which is the Christian God and it makes no logical sense because Christians are arguing that God, the creator of all things including the laws of physics, laws of mathematics and billions of light years of space, billions of years of time. This paragon of physical science and genius of mathematics couldn’t think of a better way to rid the world of sin than to choose to come to this one tiny piece of cosmic dust and have himself tortured and executed so he could forgive himself.

Just think about that. This is profoundly unscientific and it doesn’t do justice to the grandeur of the universe. It’s petty and small minded.

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u/porygon766 — 21 hours ago

How do you explain the problem of natural evil?

I think we can all agree there is alot of evil in this world. Some of it is caused by humans and it makes perfect sense that God gives humans free will and the ability to make good or evil choices. We are not robots and that’s a loving thing to do. Much of the evil in this world actually has nothing to do with humans whatsoever and is exclusively the result of natural processes. St Thomas aquinas said this is actually a powerful argument to make which doesn’t have a clear answer. Some examples would be a perfectly good person who gets stage 4 cancer and slowly wastes away and dies from it despite our best efforts or a mother Deer and her fawns sleeping in a forest, lightning hits a tree and causes a forest fire, mother and babies are desperately trying to escape the flames but they are engulfed by the flames and cry in agony until they die. Most people can agree those things which are not caused by man are evil. These are very heartbreaking. Why does God allow it?

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u/porygon766 — 3 days ago

It’s ironic when Christians say that atheists are bashing their beliefs.

I still celebrate Easter but I use it as a way to celebrate the start of spring. Literally a large part of being a Christian is bashing other faiths and convert non believers. Sometimes under the threat of eternal damnation or going to hell. Little do they know I am very knowledgeable about Christianity, Jesus and the Bible. I just chose to use my critical thinking skills to figure out that it was all bullshit. Some of my religious family members attacked me for not going to church today and said I was going to hell.

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u/porygon766 — 4 days ago