u/murithifelix

Why the 343 formation cannot be effective

Teams who play it cannot dominate the midfield because they have a pivot of 2 players, 2 number 10s, resulting in positional play and when defending they use the 5 defenders (2 wingbacks included) and the number 10s have to drop back into midfield positions to help defend, meaning there is no consitent press, striker isolated.

It requires team to play positional football. basketball football, where the ball is moved from player to player, with these players only doing any switches to create traingles or make runs from midfield when there is a lot of space, when there is no space the formation rarely sees any movements.

The formation does work against passive managers but it is quickly found out when a manager tries something different against it.

Roma has regressed ever since they changed from Ranieri's 352 to Gasperini's 343, we saw what happened with Ruben Amorin's 343 with a pressing pivot ignoring football basics of using a DM, Dortmund has looked very ineffective, a better squad but rarerly dominating, Alonso quickly learnt that it would not work at Real Madrid, Lens despite having the second best squad in Ligue 1 have struggled recently vs weaker teams. Conte's napoli did very well with the 451, they are much worse this season after moving back to the 343.

It is also indictiment on those who appoint football managers. Teams have to look at managers who have done it at youth level, smaller leagues and allow them to express their ideas. The rotation of the same managers is making football extremly boring.

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u/murithifelix — 3 hours ago

How did the Prem acquire the best league title , "faster and more physical than other leagues"

Are they paying infleuncers to continue this narrative?

How do they convince everybody that they are better than everyone else but fail to show it in the UCL.

As far as I can remember, I have never seen the Prem with more than 2 exciting teams, even in 2005 the kind of football Chelsea was playing was not appealing to anyone, in the early 2010s the French league was ultra competetive with very exciting players, Serie A had the great teams of Juve, Inter, Napoli, Roma. I dont know what was going in La Liga. The prem teams could not compete in the UCL in the early 2010s

I have never seen the Prem with more than 2 really competitive sides, it has always 1 or 2 very good sides and other teams with one superstar and lacking of balance in other areas of the pitch, teams have always looked like Everton or the current Liverpool team, very mellow, no exciting wingers or a midfield of Capoue and Dokoure, or a Tottenham team with great Fullbacks in Walker and the other dude and only 1 winger. Or the Arsenal side where they kept reminding us of how great Ozil was but they could never sign another good winger to complement Alexis.

Overall I am tired of watching this kind of football and this idea of Prem better more physical is a lie, how they manufatured it, I dont know. Jorginho Frello, who could not tackle a fly played in this league for years as a DM, Ayari is a DM in a pivot in this league

I want to watch Hazard,Luiz Dias, prime Sterling, prime Adama not Martinelli, Victor Moses, Garnacho, Salah, Gordon, Barnes, Odoi, Simons, Iwobi, Mcneil, Harry Wilson, Johnson, Mitchell.

Let wingers be the artists and midfielders do the final ball thing.

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u/murithifelix — 1 day ago

Why do many fans believe money is reason their club / league isnt good enough

Buying expensive players will never work as a team building solution, young players and academy players are the backbone of Madrid, Barca, Bayern PSG. Madrid invested in Vini, Valverde, Guler, Carvajahal, Brahim, Asencio, Fran, Ceballos, Garcia, Lunin, Pitarch . Barca, most of the team is academy, Bayern, Stanisic, Pavlovic, Davies, Musiala, Kimmich, Karl. PSG have Emery, Mayulu, Mbaye, Dro, Kang, Safonov.

These are also clubs that move on unperfoming managers, barely influenced by a manager wanting to build a project.

Of course a big chunk of these teams was expensive, however it seems to be that if a team does not understand the importance of developing young players by allowing them regular game that can be corellated with other bad decisions like hiring managers and technical staff.

PL clubs like Newcastle, Chelsea, Arsenal, Man U, Tottenham want to buy new teams every five years.

*Edit - Developing players is the difficult part, money does not solve technical expertise, it does not solve the limitations of managers and directors. Talent is not unique it is simply developed, failure to that u end with situations like Italy where u barely have wingers and strikers.

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u/murithifelix — 6 days ago