u/khalilliouane

I’m so done with Shopify/Webflow/Woo for client builds. Anyone found something better?

Rant incoming. I run a small ecommerce agency (just me + one dev + one designer) and I’m losing my mind with the current options.

Shopify: I build a beautiful store, hand it over, and the client goes “cool thanks, we’ll manage it from here.” The 20% Partner commission is also a joke? I’d need 600+ referred clients to make that meaningful. Meanwhile Shopify’s brand is all over everything and the client forgets I exist when they do their next website update.

Webflow: Hit the CMS limits within a month. Honestly, it's not the best option for ECOMMERCE. It’s fine for marketing sites like landing pages but the moment you try to do anything real with products it falls apart.

WooCommerce: Plugin update roulette. Theme breaks checkout at 2am on a Saturday, client’s screaming, and I’m debugging someone else’s spaghetti code for free because “it was working yesterday.” Sure I started charging a maintenance retainer but it's too much handy job for little money.

Duda: Tried the white-label angle. Then they jacked up per-site pricing with zero warning. And the layout system is so rigid you can’t do anything that actually looks custom. Also their commerce features are mid at best.

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What I actually want: something where I can put MY brand on it, keep operational control, and actually build recurring revenue instead of one-and-done project fees. Basically infrastructure I control that doesn’t make me look like a reseller of someone else’s platform.

Has anyone found anything that fits this?

- Ideally something built by indie hackers or a small team who actually care.

- I'm not looking for another VC-funded platform that’ll enshittify in 2 years and will only think about shareholder value.

- Budget-friendly too. I’m not trying to pay enterprise pricing for a 3-person agency.

Open to weird answers. Self-hosted, headless, white-label, whatever. Just sick of feeling like I’m building someone else’s brand every time I deliver a project.

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u/khalilliouane — 2 days ago

I’m so done with Shopify/Webflow/Woo for client builds. Anyone found something better?

Rant incoming. I run a small ecommerce agency (just me + one dev + one designer) and I’m losing my mind with the current options.

Shopify: I build a beautiful store, hand it over, and the client goes “cool thanks, we’ll manage it from here.” The 20% Partner commission is also a joke? I’d need 600+ referred clients to make that meaningful. Meanwhile Shopify’s brand is all over everything and the client forgets I exist when they do their next website update.

Webflow: Hit the CMS limits within a month. Honestly, it's not the best option for ECOMMERCE. It’s fine for marketing sites like landing pages but the moment you try to do anything real with products it falls apart.

WooCommerce: Plugin update roulette. Theme breaks checkout at 2am on a Saturday, client’s screaming, and I’m debugging someone else’s spaghetti code for free because “it was working yesterday.” Sure I started charging a maintenance retainer but it's too much handy job for little money.

Duda: Tried the white-label angle. Then they jacked up per-site pricing with zero warning. And the layout system is so rigid you can’t do anything that actually looks custom. Also their commerce features are mid at best.

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What I actually want: something where I can put MY brand on it, keep operational control, and actually build recurring revenue instead of one-and-done project fees. Basically infrastructure I control that doesn’t make me look like a reseller of someone else’s platform.

Has anyone found anything that fits this?

- Ideally something built by indie hackers or a small team who actually care.

- I'm not looking for another VC-funded platform that’ll enshittify in 2 years and will only think about shareholder value.

- Budget-friendly too. I’m not trying to pay enterprise pricing for a 3-person agency.

Open to weird answers. Self-hosted, headless, white-label, whatever. Just sick of feeling like I’m building someone else’s brand every time I deliver a project.

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u/khalilliouane — 2 days ago
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I’m so done with Shopify/Webflow/Woo for client builds. Anyone found something better?

Rant incoming. I run a small ecommerce agency (just me + one dev + one designer) and I’m losing my mind with the current options.

Shopify: I build a beautiful store, hand it over, and the client goes “cool thanks, we’ll manage it from here.” The 20% Partner commission is also a joke? I’d need 600+ referred clients to make that meaningful. Meanwhile Shopify’s brand is all over everything and the client forgets I exist when they do their next website update.

Webflow: Hit the CMS limits within a month. Honestly, it's not the best option for ECOMMERCE. It’s fine for marketing sites like landing pages but the moment you try to do anything real with products it falls apart.

WooCommerce: Plugin update roulette. Theme breaks checkout at 2am on a Saturday, client’s screaming, and I’m debugging someone else’s spaghetti code for free because “it was working yesterday.” Sure I started charging a maintenance retainer but it's too much handy job for little money.

Duda: Tried the white-label angle. Then they jacked up per-site pricing with zero warning. And the layout system is so rigid you can’t do anything that actually looks custom. Also their commerce features are mid at best.

---

What I actually want: something where I can put MY brand on it, keep operational control, and actually build recurring revenue instead of one-and-done project fees. Basically infrastructure I control that doesn’t make me look like a reseller of someone else’s platform.

Has anyone found anything that fits this?

- Ideally something built by indie hackers or a small team who actually care.

- I'm not looking for another VC-funded platform that’ll enshittify in 2 years and will only think about shareholder value.

- Budget-friendly too. I’m not trying to pay enterprise pricing for a 3-person agency.

Open to weird answers. Self-hosted, headless, white-label, whatever. Just sick of feeling like I’m building someone else’s brand every time I deliver a project.

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u/khalilliouane — 2 days ago

Can you explain what Alex said in episode 6?

In the start of the episode said something about 1s and 0s and 1001. (The last episode of this season - ep 06 / S21)

I am not sure I got the joke.

English is my 3rd language btw.

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u/khalilliouane — 5 days ago