u/iron_manakatony

▲ 29 r/dhurandharworld+4 crossposts

Did Sophia slapped major Iqbal’s daughter or she was just scared of the loud voice

I was just watching this scene and just wanted to know why did did Iqbal’s daughter screamed when her caretaker took her away did she tortured her or she she got panic after listening to the yelling of Jahangir and why there was that throwing of utensils???

u/iron_manakatony — 19 hours ago

Iqbal wasn't a psychopath. He was something far worse.

I was reading a book called the psychology of terrorism by John Horgan and in that book Horgan stated that terrorists are a result of a very disturbing environment- socially oppressed, financially struggling ….but after a point of time some of these people realise on their own that what they are doing is wrong and left this . Basically he blamed the government and institutions for not being responsible for these citizens
So I was watching Dhurandhar 2 and this thing came to my mind that the character of Major Iqbal is somewhat more disturbing inside then on the surface of course the father angle is there but here are some points that came to my mind:

A psychopath is born with a neurological difference. The circuitry for empathy, fear, and emotional bonding is structurally absent or severely reduced from birth. They don't suppress feelings. They simply don't have the hardware for certain feelings in the first place.
This means a psychopath cannot be held fully responsible in the way we normally understand responsibility. They were built this way. The coldness is not a choice — it's a factory setting.
But Iqbal is a man with completely normal emotions architecture- he loved his daughter and he knew that his father was just a piece of s\*\*t and hated him .

Iqbal is a product of circumstance, choice, and time. Every layer of coldness was added by something — a father's contempt, a military culture, an ideology, a gradual moral escalation, a mission that never ended. Each layer was added on top of a fully feeling human being who was in there the whole time.
The horror of Iqbal is not that he felt nothing.
The horror is that he felt everything — and the world he was born into was so completely wrong that every feeling he had got converted into destruction.
But here is where i contradict my point he had the choice to be different but somehow he chooses to be this ass\*\*\*e.
I also have some questions regarding this character

Was Iqbal a conscious monster or a broken man? Genuine question.

Iqbal's love for his daughter was real or It was also a weapon aimed at his father or Both things are true?

I am studying psychology so that’s why these deep questions and observations. I have to make a report on them so I choose this topic… do answer my questions I will add your opinion in my report 😽

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u/iron_manakatony — 2 days ago

Iqbal wasn't a psychopath. He was something far worse.

I was reading a book called the psychology of terrorism by John Horgan and in that book Horgan stated that terrorists are a result of a very disturbing environment- socially oppressed, financially struggling ….but after a point of time some of these people realise on their own that what they are doing is wrong and left this shit . Basically he blamed the government and institutions for not being responsible for these citizens
So I was watching Dhurandhar 2 and this thing came to my mind that the character of Major Iqbal is somewhat more disturbing inside then on the surface of course the father angle is there but here are some points I that came to my mind:

A psychopath is born with a neurological difference. The circuitry for empathy, fear, and emotional bonding is structurally absent or severely reduced from birth. They don't suppress feelings. They simply don't have the hardware for certain feelings in the first place.
This means a psychopath cannot be held fully responsible in the way we normally understand responsibility. They were built this way. The coldness is not a choice — it's a factory setting.
But Iqbal is a man with completely normal emotions architecture- he loved his daughter and he knew that his father was just a piece of shit and hated him .

Iqbal is a product of circumstance, choice, and time. Every layer of coldness was added by something — a father's contempt, a military culture, an ideology, a gradual moral escalation, a mission that never ended. Each layer was added on top of a fully feeling human being who was in there the whole time.
The horror of Iqbal is not that he felt nothing.
The horror is that he felt everything — and the world he was born into was so completely wrong that every feeling he had got converted into destruction.
But here is where i contradict my point he had the choice to be different but somehow he chooses to be this asshole.
I also have some questions regarding this character

Was Iqbal a conscious monster or a broken man? Genuine question.?

Iqbal's love for his daughter was real or It was also a weapon aimed at his father or Both things are true?

I am studying psychology so that’s why these deep questions and observations. I have to make a report on them so I choose this topic… do answer my questions I will add your opinion in my report 😽

reddit.com
u/iron_manakatony — 2 days ago

Iqbal wasn't a psychopath. He was something far worse.

I was reading a book called the psychology of terrorism by John Horgan and in that book Horgan stated that terrorists are a result of a very disturbing environment- socially oppressed, financially struggling ….but after a point of time some of these people realise on their own that what they are doing is wrong and left this shit . Basically he blamed the government and institutions for not being responsible for these citizens
So I was watching Dhurandhar 2 and this thing came to my mind that the character of Major Iqbal is somewhat more disturbing inside then on the surface of course the father angle is there but here are some points I that came to my mind:

A psychopath is born with a neurological difference. The circuitry for empathy, fear, and emotional bonding is structurally absent or severely reduced from birth. They don't suppress feelings. They simply don't have the hardware for certain feelings in the first place.
This means a psychopath cannot be held fully responsible in the way we normally understand responsibility. They were built this way. The coldness is not a choice — it's a factory setting.
But Iqbal is a man with completely normal emotions architecture- he loved his daughter and he knew that his father was just a piece of shit and hated him .

Iqbal is a product of circumstance, choice, and time. Every layer of coldness was added by something — a father's contempt, a military culture, an ideology, a gradual moral escalation, a mission that never ended. Each layer was added on top of a fully feeling human being who was in there the whole time.
The horror of Iqbal is not that he felt nothing.
The horror is that he felt everything — and the world he was born into was so completely wrong that every feeling he had got converted into destruction.
But here is where i contradict my point he had the choice to be different but somehow he chooses to be this asshole.
I also have some questions regarding this character

Was Iqbal a conscious monster or a broken man? Genuine question.?

Iqbal's love for his daughter was real or It was also a weapon aimed at his father or Both things are true?

I am studying psychology so that’s why these deep questions and observations. I have to make a report on them so I choose this topic… do answer my questions I will add your opinion in my report 😽

reddit.com
u/iron_manakatony — 2 days ago

Iqbal wasn't a psychopath. He was something far worse.

I was reading a book called the psychology of terrorism by John Horgan and in that book Horgan stated that terrorists are a result of a very disturbing environment- socially oppressed, financially struggling ….but after a point of time some of these people realise on their own that what they are doing is wrong and left this shit . Basically he blamed the government and institutions for not being responsible for these citizens
So I was watching Dhurandhar 2 and this thing came to my mind that the character of Major Iqbal is somewhat more disturbing inside then on the surface of course the father angle is there but here are some points I that came to my mind:

A psychopath is born with a neurological difference. The circuitry for empathy, fear, and emotional bonding is structurally absent or severely reduced from birth. They don't suppress feelings. They simply don't have the hardware for certain feelings in the first place.
This means a psychopath cannot be held fully responsible in the way we normally understand responsibility. They were built this way. The coldness is not a choice — it's a factory setting.
But Iqbal is a man with completely normal emotions architecture- he loved his daughter and he knew that his father was just a piece of shit and hated him .

Iqbal is a product of circumstance, choice, and time. Every layer of coldness was added by something — a father's contempt, a military culture, an ideology, a gradual moral escalation, a mission that never ended. Each layer was added on top of a fully feeling human being who was in there the whole time.
The horror of Iqbal is not that he felt nothing.
The horror is that he felt everything — and the world he was born into was so completely wrong that every feeling he had got converted into destruction.
But here is where i contradict my point he had the choice to be different but somehow he chooses to be this asshole.
I also have some questions regarding this character

Was Iqbal a conscious monster or a broken man? Genuine question.?

Iqbal's love for his daughter was real or It was also a weapon aimed at his father or Both things are true?

I am studying psychology so that’s why these deep questions and observations. I have to make a report on them so I choose this topic… do answer my questions I will add your opinion in my report 😽

reddit.com
u/iron_manakatony — 2 days ago

Iqbal wasn't a psychopath. He was something far worse.

I was reading a book called the psychology of terrorism by John Horgan and in that book Horgan stated that terrorists are a result of a very disturbing environment- socially oppressed, financially struggling ….but after a point of time some of these people realise on their own that what they are doing is wrong and left this shit . Basically he blamed the government and institutions for not being responsible for these citizens
So I was watching Dhurandhar 2 and this thing came to my mind that the character of Major Iqbal is somewhat more disturbing inside then on the surface of course the father angle is there but here are some points I that came to my mind:

A psychopath is born with a neurological difference. The circuitry for empathy, fear, and emotional bonding is structurally absent or severely reduced from birth. They don't suppress feelings. They simply don't have the hardware for certain feelings in the first place.
This means a psychopath cannot be held fully responsible in the way we normally understand responsibility. They were built this way. The coldness is not a choice — it's a factory setting.
But Iqbal is a man with completely normal emotions architecture- he loved his daughter and he knew that his father was just a piece of shit and hated him .

Iqbal is a product of circumstance, choice, and time. Every layer of coldness was added by something — a father's contempt, a military culture, an ideology, a gradual moral escalation, a mission that never ended. Each layer was added on top of a fully feeling human being who was in there the whole time.
The horror of Iqbal is not that he felt nothing.
The horror is that he felt everything — and the world he was born into was so completely wrong that every feeling he had got converted into destruction.
But here is where i contradict my point he had the choice to be different but somehow he chooses to be this asshole.
I also have some questions regarding this character

Was Iqbal a conscious monster or a broken man? Genuine question.?

Iqbal's love for his daughter was real or It was also a weapon aimed at his father or Both things are true?

I am studying psychology so that’s why these deep questions and observations. I have to make a report on them so I choose this topic… do answer my questions I will add your opinion in my report 😽

reddit.com
u/iron_manakatony — 2 days ago

Iqbal wasn't a psychopath. He was something far worse.

I was reading a book called the psychology of terrorism by John Horgan and in that book Horgan stated that terrorists are a result of a very disturbing environment- socially oppressed, financially struggling ….but after a point of time some of these people realise on their own that what they are doing is wrong and left this shit . Basically he blamed the government and institutions for not being responsible for these citizens
So I was watching Dhurandhar 2 and this thing came to my mind that the character of Major Iqbal is somewhat more disturbing inside then on the surface of course the father angle is there but here are some points I that came to my mind:

A psychopath is born with a neurological difference. The circuitry for empathy, fear, and emotional bonding is structurally absent or severely reduced from birth. They don't suppress feelings. They simply don't have the hardware for certain feelings in the first place.
This means a psychopath cannot be held fully responsible in the way we normally understand responsibility. They were built this way. The coldness is not a choice — it's a factory setting.
But Iqbal is a man with completely normal emotions architecture- he loved his daughter and he knew that his father was just a piece of shit and hated him .

Iqbal is a product of circumstance, choice, and time. Every layer of coldness was added by something — a father's contempt, a military culture, an ideology, a gradual moral escalation, a mission that never ended. Each layer was added on top of a fully feeling human being who was in there the whole time.
The horror of Iqbal is not that he felt nothing.
The horror is that he felt everything — and the world he was born into was so completely wrong that every feeling he had got converted into destruction.
But here is where i contradict my point he had the choice to be different but somehow he chooses to be this asshole.
I also have some questions regarding this character

Was Iqbal a conscious monster or a broken man? Genuine question.?

Iqbal's love for his daughter was real or It was also a weapon aimed at his father or Both things are true?

I am studying psychology so that’s why these deep questions and observations. I have to make a report on them so I choose this topic… do answer my questions I will add your opinion in my report 😽

reddit.com
u/iron_manakatony — 2 days ago
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They changed Iqbal’s family pic on OTT

I don’t know …. It’s a minor change but it just came to my mind that they had taken so many takes for just one scene
I was really hoping for major Iqbal’s deleted scenes in the OTT version

u/iron_manakatony — 4 days ago

So I watched dhurandhar ( both parts) about 5 times and these are the differences I noticed about Major Iqbal’s character in both movies: 1) Major Iqbal in part 1 had that mysterious and menacing aura around him because of the way he was introduced “inki izzazat k Bina pakistani siyasat ka ek patta bhi nhi hiil skta” but in part 2 he was shown as a smaller piece in hierarchy like he was just a loyalist to bade Shaab and without Dawood he is nothing.
2) In part 2 he was shown as a man of wrong who knows that what it feels like to be a victim of situations but still choose to take the wrong way but this is what makes the difference, in part 1 he was a MONSTER he was shown as a fu\*\*ing psychopath who just enjoys killing people , torturing them but in part 2 they added the backstory of his father which was meant to explain how he become this piece of shit but the problem is the way the it has shown - the character contradicts itself - in part 1 the monster that was shown would never tolerate his shit father who curse him so much all day and night long and also knowing that he betrayed his own country but in part 2 he was just shown as a hurt child who loves his disabled daughter ( i guess just to show his father and piss him off, also adding to this I don’t think a character like major Iqbal could ever love someone who is less capable given his upbringing)

I think this character is not handled properly it was a writing mistake - the way this character was introduced like the character contradicts itself too many times

Also this is my first Reddit post ✌🏻and I just wanted to know how good my analysis skills are😽

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u/iron_manakatony — 18 days ago
▲ 9 r/Dhurandhar2+1 crossposts

So I watched dhurandhar ( both parts) about 5 times and these are the differences I noticed about Major Iqbal’s character in both movies: 1) Major Iqbal in part 1 had that mysterious and menacing aura around him because of the way he was introduced “inki izzazat k Bina pakistani siyasat ka ek patta bhi nhi hiil skta” but in part 2 he was shown as a smaller piece in hierarchy like he was just a loyalist to bade Shaab and without Dawood he is nothing.
2) In part 2 he was shown as a man of wrong who knows that what it feels like to be a victim of situations but still choose to take the wrong way but this is what makes the difference, in part 1 he was a MONSTER he was shown as a fu**ing psychopath who just enjoys killing people , torturing them but in part 2 they added the backstory of his father which was meant to explain how he become this piece of shit but the problem is the way the it has shown - the character contradicts itself - in part 1 the monster that was shown would never tolerate his shit father who curse him so much all day and night long and also knowing that he betrayed his own country but in part 2 he was just shown as a hurt child who loves his disabled daughter ( i guess just to show his father and piss him off, also adding to this I don’t think a character like major Iqbal could ever love someone who is less capable given his upbringing)

I think this character is not handled properly it was a writing mistake - the way this character was introduced like the character contradicts itself too many times

Also this is my first Reddit post ✌🏻and I just wanted to know how good my analysis skills are😽

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u/iron_manakatony — 18 days ago

So I watched dhurandhar ( both parts) about 5 times and these are the differences I noticed about Major Iqbal’s character in both movies: 1) Major Iqbal in part 1 had that mysterious and menacing aura around him because of the way he was introduced “inki izzazat k Bina pakistani siyasat ka ek patta bhi nhi hiil skta” but in part 2 he was shown as a smaller piece in hierarchy like he was just a loyalist to bade Shaab and without Dawood he is nothing.
2) In part 2 he was shown as a man of wrong who knows that what it feels like to be a victim of situations but still choose to take the wrong way but this is what makes the difference, in part 1 he was a MONSTER he was shown as a fu**ing psychopath who just enjoys killing people , torturing them but in part 2 they added the backstory of his father which was meant to explain how he become this piece of shit but the problem is the way the it has shown - the character contradicts itself - in part 1 the monster that was shown would never tolerate his shit father who curse him so much all day and night long and also knowing that he betrayed his own country but in part 2 he was just shown as a hurt child who loves his disabled daughter ( i guess just to show his father and piss him off, also adding to this I don’t think a character like major Iqbal could ever love someone who is less capable given his upbringing)

I think this character is not handled properly it was a writing mistake - the way this character was introduced like the character contradicts itself too many times

Also this is my first Reddit post ✌🏻and I just wanted to know how good my analysis skills are😽

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u/iron_manakatony — 18 days ago