u/danja

Alongside the rise of AI-generated music there's also some serious pushback, very visible around Reddit.

I'm curious about people's opinions around here.

I've only had a brief play with systems like Suno, where the AI models create mostly from their memories of what they were trained in. It may be better with a pro account, but I found it both amazing and disappointing. Amazing because you get quasi-finished tracks out of thin air, disappointing because there's always a familiarity, heard it before.

Ok, that's an extreme case of machine-assist.

I've recently been working a lot recently with generative plugins. None (as yet) actually incorporates AI at run time, but they are algorithmic. I have a bass line generator that operates according to certain rules (genre, key, scale etc), another that does counterpoint against it, another that adds chords, another that sequences drums.

I also now have an AI vocalist. A friend sent me a speaking toy AI bot which is hooked up to a language model in China. So I've strapped it to a microphone. I can tell it a prompt and it delivers its response into the mic. Great fun.

So, thoughts?

A tool is just a tool, you should use anything you like, still legit (my personal opinion)? Or do you draw the line somewhere, some systems are somehow *wrong*?

Here's a video I recorded yesterday making a lot of use of the generative plugins, together with the AI vocals : https://youtu.be/CCkw3s7abps?is=mZqG7rjYsmWFYeqx

The generative plugins are around here : https://github.com/danja/downspout

I just released an album that uses some of the plugins here and there : https://github.com/danja/attone

All very experimental, mostly vibe-coded, rather unintuitive UIs, but there is already plenty to have fun with. Time to play, see what works and what doesn't.

https://github.com/danja/downspout

Feedback appreciated. Better still, please improve them youself! (Anyone kitted out and willing to build for Windows/Mac, let me know, I'll add you as a collaborator).

I used a lot of the same algorithms in earlier lv2 plugins on an album I just released : https://github.com/danja/attone

* bassgen: a transport-aware MIDI generator

* p-mix: a transport-aware probabilistic fader

* e-mix: a transport-aware Euclidean fader

* rift: a damage effect, invented by Codex

* drumgen: MIDI drum pattern generator

* cadence: MIDI harmonizer and comping generator

* counterpointer: a transport-aware MIDI counter-melody generator

* gremlin: a chaotic glitch instrument with live performance gestures

* gremlin-driver: a MIDI modulation and action sequencer for gremlin

* ground: long-form MIDI bass generator

Which is kinda "I saw him" in Italian.

Here you go

I've been experimenting with music for a *long time*. Very much inspired by old school Krautrock.

My most recent play has involved getting AI to write generative software, which plays things (mostly DAW plugins).

This afternoon I was trying out the latest toys, it had *that sound* about it. So I picked up the guitar.

The VSTs are only done for my Linux setup so far, but it's all open source, if anyone cares to try on other systems.

https://github.com/danja/downspout