u/buppiejc

Liberals

Is it pointless engaging with Liberals?

I suspect some of us will caucus with the democrats or at least some democrats, but after some recent debates with Liberals, I'm finding them almost as hopeless as MAGA.

Should I/we just focus on primaries and ensuring the most left candidate is running on the democrat ticket, knowing Liberals will vote blue no matter who, or is it still worth engaging with them on policy?

In my recent experience they're incapable of having constructive discussions on how to move forward, and policy, and any criticism of Democrats wll be met with gaslighting about how much worst Republicans and Trump is (which is true).

I'm just frustrated a bit.

reddit.com
u/buppiejc — 14 hours ago

Trump Accuses Obama of Treason in Unhinged Crashout About Black People

I read the article. It's disgusting, but I also know it's business as usual in this country. Lately there's been a lot of discuss about voting, and working to help Democrats take back at least the House of Representatives in this sub.

Although I have worked two political campaigns already this year; I always have mixed feelings about pushing so hard for people that won't fight for me, or for my community specifically.

Of course there's nuisance in any take, but I do want to ask, have you guys seen any Democrats come out and denounce the president tweeting stereotypes about us? ..they seem to have no problem speaking out loudly about bigotry against other groups of people, and they should; but what about us?

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u/buppiejc — 8 days ago

Free link: https://archive.ph/P7GMh

Spoiler: >!Republicans f’d us, and Democrats are complicit!<

My take:

Republicans have been hammering at this since Obama was in office. It makes me feel like Obama, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, congressional Democrats, and especially Biden and Harris for not getting the Dems to pass the John Lewis Voting Rights Act makes me feel they’re complicit in this. Democrats always have one or two legislators available to block legislation, this time it was Joe Manchin.

The Democrat electorate is suppose to be the college educated party, but Republicans run circles around them when it comes to legislation. Denying that is denying reality at this point.

Republicans hammer and hammer, and hammer until they get what they want. Meanwhile we make excuses:

“Obama couldn’t do anything because of Mitch McConnell.”

“Biden wanted to do it, but Joe Manchin.”

Most of this dismantling happened under a Democrat presidency.

It’s really difficult to argue with people that say Democrats aren’t just controlled opposition.

Key Facts

- Obama’s presidential term 2009 - 2017

- Biden’s presidential term 2021 -2025

- 2013 we had a split Congress with Democrats holding the Senate.

- 2023 - 2024 we reversed with Democrats holding the House

Sources:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For\_the\_People\_Act#Unsuccessful\_narrower\_proposal:\_Freedom\_to\_Vote\_Act

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John\_Lewis\_Voting\_Rights\_Act

Please Join/donate to DSA. We need to get these corporate Democrats out of the party.

https://act.dsausa.org/donate/membership/

u/buppiejc — 19 days ago