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Is Existential Inertia actually a threat to classical theism? I don’t think so.

Is Existential Inertia actually a threat to classical theism? I don’t think so.

In his long post on the Existential Inertia Thesis, Joe Schmid formulates EIT as follows:

>Existential Inertia Thesis (EIT): For each member O of some (proper or improper) sub-set of temporal concrete objects and for each time t such that O exists at some time t* earlier than t, (i) at t, O does not ontologically depend on the existence or activity of some concrete object O*, where O* is not a (proper or improper) part of O, and (ii) if O is not positively destroyed within the temporal interval [t*, t], then O exists at t.

The question is not simply whether this is true, but what it actually excludes. Once the terms are fixed, the supposed conflict with classical theism becomes difficult to sustain.

What is O*?

O is explicitly restricted to temporal concrete objects. O*, however, is left as “some concrete object,” without any temporal qualifier. This creates an ambiguity about the scope of the denial.

If O* is understood as ranging only over temporal concrete objects, then EIT says that temporal objects do not depend on other temporal objects for their persistence. But any thesis that denies only temporal-to-temporal sustaining causes is compatible with classical theism, and more than merely compatible, it is exactly what classical theism would predict. Aquinas argues (ST I, q. 104, a. 1) that created agents within the same order are causes of becoming (causa fieri), not causes of being as such (causa essendi). A builder brings a house into existence, but does not sustain its existence once built. In the same way, no temporal agent accounts for the continued being of another in the relevant sense. So on this reading, EIT does not oppose classical theism at all; it articulates a constraint that classical theism not only affirms but explains.

If, on the other hand, O* is meant to range more broadly so as to exclude any sustaining cause whatsoever, including non-temporal ones, then a further step is required. The issue is not merely how such causes are categorized, but whether there is any justification for extending the domain of O* beyond temporal concrete objects. As stated, no such justification is provided. Without it, the move from “no dependence on external concrete objects” to “no dependence on any sustaining cause whatsoever” does not follow.

As stated, the thesis denies dependence only on “some concrete object O*,” while O itself is explicitly restricted to temporal concrete objects. So the inference from:

  • no dependence on other temporal concrete objects

to:

  • no dependence on any sustaining cause whatsoever

does not follow unless one first shows that all possible sustaining causes fall within the range of O* as defined. Without that, the exclusion of non-temporal causes is simply asserted, not established.

Can a descriptive thesis rule out divine conservation?

Schmid explicitly presents EIT as a descriptive thesis rather than an explanatory one. It describes how temporal objects persist, not why they persist.

But a purely descriptive account of temporal processes cannot, by itself, exclude a metaphysical explanation of those processes. Divine conservation is not a competing description of what happens within the temporal order. It is a claim about the ground of that order as such.

So even if EIT is correct as a description, it does not follow that divine conservation is false. In fact, a classical theist can accept the descriptive content of EIT and treat divine conservation as the explanation of why that description holds. A description that omits a cause is not evidence that the cause is absent, especially when the cause in question would not appear within the same domain as the description.

The argument only generates a conflict with classical theism if two further steps are taken:

  • that the domain of O* extends to all possible sustaining causes, including non-temporal ones
  • that a descriptive account of persistence has the explanatory force to rule out metaphysical explanations of that persistence

Neither of these steps is established by EIT itself.

Questions

If EIT is understood as a descriptive thesis about temporal objects, it is compatible with classical theism and can even be explained by it. If it is taken to exclude all sustaining causes whatsoever, then that conclusion depends on additional assumptions about the scope of the quantifier in the thesis and about the reach of descriptive claims.

So the real questions are these: what justifies extending O* beyond temporal concrete objects, and how can a purely descriptive thesis rule out a metaphysical explanation of why that description holds?

Until those are answered, EIT does not do the work it is supposed to do.

u/actus_energeia — 1 day ago

St. John of Damascus — On Philosophy (Dialectica, Ch. 3)

3. Concerning philosophy.

a. Philosophy is knowledge of beings insofar as they are beings, that is, knowledge of the nature of beings.

And again:

b. Philosophy is knowledge of divine and human things, that is, of visible and invisible things.

c. Philosophy again is the study of death, both voluntary and natural; for life is twofold, the natural, according to which we live, and the voluntary, according to which we deliberately hold fast to the present life. Death too is twofold: the natural, which is the separation of the soul from the body, and the voluntary, according to which, despising the present life, we hasten toward the life to come.

d. Philosophy again is likeness to God. And we are made like God in respect of wisdom, that is, the true knowledge of the good, and in respect of justice, which is the impartial distribution according to equality in judgment, and also in respect of piety, which is beyond justice, that is, the good consisting in doing good to those who wrong us.

e. Philosophy is the art of arts and the science of sciences. For philosophy is the principle of every art; through it every art and every science has been discovered. Art, then, is that which is liable to error in certain respects and under certain conditions, whereas science is that which in no respect errs; but philosophy alone does not err. According to others, however, art is that which works by means of the hands, whereas science is every rational art, grammar, rhetoric, and suchlike.

f. Philosophy again is love of wisdom. And true wisdom is God; therefore the love directed toward God is the true philosophy.

Philosophy is divided into the theoretical and the practical; the theoretical into theology, physics, and mathematics, and the practical into ethics, economics, and politics.

The theoretical is that which orders knowledge. Theology, then, is the understanding of incorporeal and immaterial things, first of God, who is truly immaterial, and then also of angels and souls. Physics is the knowledge of material things and those ready to hand for us, that is, animals, plants, stones, and such things. Mathematics is the knowledge of things which are in themselves incorporeal but are contemplated in bodies, namely numbers and the harmony of sounds, and further shapes and the motion of the stars. Thus the study concerned with numbers constitutes the science of arithmetic; that concerned with sounds, music; that concerned with shapes, geometry; and that concerned with the stars, astronomy. These are intermediate between bodies and incorporeals; for number is in itself incorporeal, but it is also contemplated in matter, for example in grain or wine or some other such thing.

The practical is occupied with the virtues; for it orders character and teaches how one ought to conduct one’s civic life. And if it legislates for one human being, it is called ethics; if for an entire household, it is called economics; and if for cities and regions, it is called politics.

But some have attempted to abolish philosophy, saying that it does not exist, nor is it any knowledge or apprehension. Against them we shall say: How do you say that philosophy and knowledge and apprehension do not exist, having known and apprehended this, or not having known nor apprehended it? If, then, you have apprehended it, behold, there is knowledge and apprehension; but if you have not known it, no one will believe you when you speak about a matter whose knowledge you have not apprehended.

Since, then, philosophy exists and is knowledge of beings, let us speak concerning being. And one must know that we begin from the logical part of philosophy, which is rather an instrument of philosophy than a part; for philosophy uses it for every demonstration. Let us therefore speak for the present about simple vocal expressions, which by means of simple concepts signify simple things; for after first making clear the signification of words, we shall thus also inquire concerning propositions.

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