i've never really seen anyone talk specifically about this, but i think it's one of the biggest things that make a new gen 11, y'know, a NG11. the guy has amazing panels, and works really awesome in terms of off-the-ball movement and whatnot, but with the ball? he's not garbage whatsoever, but rather, feels "boring"? is that the word? at least in comparison with the rest. i wouldn't get pissed because camus or fukaku aren't doing handstand-blocks because they are not ever hyped up as the worlds 11 best youth players oat

i've seen people imply this with how some folks said hugo was made an NG11 strictly due to his brains, and i truly think that's because he genuinely lacks cool panels that show his technicality in handling the ball. nomura focused a bit more with the rest in this category, and seeing how things are atm for him, it's probably an art thing, but you get what i mean (hopefully).

i have been seeing a lot of kaido speed discussions and wanted to add something onto it. BIG credit to u/CocaPepsiPepper for giving me this idea and u/AtFearsEnd for helping me double down. both r actual goats.

why kizaru doesn't benefit off this - https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/s/6CctZI1jnP

i spent about a good hour wondering what i should put for #19, and i couldn't really figure anything out, and decided to take a chunk of Empty-Waves old analysis, a fellow good friend and big kaido fan like myself. here. we've worked together a bunch of times in the past (as like with me and goat AtFearsEnd), so this isn't plagiarization.

for those who disagree with the end

anyway, as always, kaido is a very fun character to look deep and dwell deep into, who u always learn smth new about whenever you read wano. if you're here to combat me for the last slide, I'll make an analysis on it eventually cuz i have yet to do so, but no, I don't believe harad beats out kaido, and by proxy, loki. this is why. 2 characters who consistently clash often and take blows from each other has never automatically cemented them as equals, that only portrays relativity, and not even to a powerful degree, but a mediocre degree at best. yamato versus kaido consisted of multiple panels where they equalized, and fought damn near on par with each other, landed hits and blocked many, despite yamato being evidently weaker considering 1010 and 1011 luffy was very much capable of doing the exact same thing to kaido (who, altho weaker, was clearly more powerful). this isn't to say harald is weak, but the clear takeaway is that he has not shown feats kaido cannot do. clashing with rocks isn't a feat that drops you at yonko level (i dont think i need to explain clash piece to this sub), nor is the 6 km feat special, given that this is a natural result of rocks clashing with his swordmanship activated. in addition to rocks talking about the nidhogg, he wanted harald to have it based off pure genetics, which isn't anything in of itself.

hk harald covennant

later, we learn harald gained a HK boost, but the HK boost isn't quantifiable by any meaningful measure. we can't say "he got X, therefore he jumped 1 tier above", as this is just unsupported. his feats later on are fighting foot-soldiers, and fightin non-prime gaban and shanks, who proceed to outpace him and split off his leg. they not only cut him once, but twice now. am i genuinely supposed to believe this guy beats kaido in stats, when kaido himself could speedblitz hydra snakeman AND gear 5th before his leg instantaneously blew air towards the foot? it's almost hilarious. this guy isn't weak, but he has never once done anything to warrant the opinions on him ("beats-mid diffs kaido!"). yes obviously HK harald is stronger than his pre amp moment, but i have 0 incentive to believe he's suddenly jumped a tier. if his performance is unquantifiable, its unquantifiable, simple as. we can infer he got stronger, but to what degree? suddenly inconvertibly beating kaido? no

rocks versus the admiral

even the rocks feat is conflated as-can-be of him eliminating an admiral. we are strictly told rocks had an engaging with an admiral, and the admiral was left dead. we aren't told or shown any other context, not about how powerful said admiral was, not who this admiral was, etc. i don't like being a nerd, but it's "logically fallacious" to say that as a result, we can take rocks as yonko-level due to this, when we have zero incentive to believe this admiral was as powerful as akainu, aokiji or even fujitora. if the admirals' power balance isn't consistent across eras (post vs pre-timeskip), we aren't to assume anything about the men from the past. even the entire ideal of "oda never intended for you to consider him weak/not equal to the og's" is flawed. the admiral can constitute as "strong" and still lose, because strong is a meaningless hype-term when it revolves around nothing. anybody can be "strong", but in comparison to what, y'know? "strong" in comparison to a yonko? to a marine footsoldier? to an admiral? rocks is for sure can be "strong" but if there's no ceiling barrier it's a weak statement to go off of

imu dialogue, gaban thinks harald cannot be beat (via regen)

imu not understanding who could've killed harald is a weak-ass statement too, as it only means imu's standards exceeded harald's capability. or, that loki (who was unknown) defied standards, which is nothing new. gaban and imu are shocked because they didn't know of anyone on elbaf in that instance who had the capability to pack him up. this doesn't automatically make him top 1. we've seen this so many times within a story on how you don't need to believe someone is invincible to be shocked that someone can beat them

gaban was false, and so, this statement shouldn't be taken as automatically true considering its limited by a lack of knowledge. also, please take into consideration that haralds POWER was not what would give him the winning factor against anyone, but rather his IMMORTALITY. this is independent from physical stats like AP, speed, durability, etc. gaban has not seen wb's full potential that we know of. the 3-day war, and god valley r not meaningful measures.

i cant think of anything else. loki damaging imu cannot be used as a feat to put loki above imu, as we do not know how durable imu is meant to be. even if you have loki over kaido (which is A-OK), the idea that kaido was ever "powercliffed" by him is bullshit

i hear a lot about how they were only ever mentioned in episode 1, but didn't pick up on this lmao