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I think both MOS and Superman 25 are somewhere in the 6-8/10 range for me. I do slightly prefer Superman 25 cause I just like more upbeat fun movies generally but both are good Superman films in their own ways. Both got issues I don’t like, both got stuff I like
Never understood the hatred for either

Some stuff yes, but 90% of the criticisms I see for either is purely bad faith criticism, straight up disrespect or straight up just toxic shit

There’s criticism then there’s shit like calling actors ugly or hurling insults and slurs at people cause of an opinion

I simply wanna discuss movies WITHOUT someone going “Gunn/Snyder sucks if you like their films you’re a dumbass!”

Needed to vent that. I’m genuinely disappointed with the state of the DC fandom

I just like the big blue man in tights and think both are cool. Simple as that

Anyway if anyone read this and has ACTUAL discussion about it without being a wank you’re welcome to talk

We all know,the invincible panel "thragg vs battle beast" went viral on various fandom's through Menes and artworks.I saw the final fight of kal-el vs zod in MOS yesterday And i found something interesting on that scend.Their building collision is looks exactly like that panel.thragg is in superman's position and Battle beast in General Zod's position.and look how similar these two images are!.

#RestorTheSnyderVerse. #ZacksnyderIsTheBluePrint.

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DC is in freefall. In fact, it isn’t just DC but the entire WB studio. It doesn’t matter if you liked Blue Beetle, Shazam 2, Birds of Prey, The Suicide Squad, or Superman Legacy. The fact is that those films cost a certain amount to make and didn’t make enough back to instill confidence in the brand. Fans aren’t turning out to buy tickets or to stream online. They’ll argue with you on social platforms, but WB can’t monetize angry fan interactions, although I’m sure they’d love to.

While I think Zack Snyder is far from the only person qualified to oversee DC, I understand people who want him back. He left unfinished stories with iconic characters and an all-star cast incomplete. His movies make bank. His projects get streamed more than DC does without him. Frankly, I’d be just as excited to see Burton return for a Batman Beyond or old man Wayne story. After all, Keaton donned his cowl again 30 years after his final feature bat-film. Why can’t fans hold out hope for their heroes to return?

In fact, it seems like every time a DC fan dares to enjoy a DC movie, someone tells them to “just move on,” that seems strange to me. Imagine if, when Man of Steel was rolling out in 2013, WB and Zack Snyder said that Brandon Routh damaged the brand and anyone who didn’t hop on board with Henry and cease to be fans of Brandon, Dean, Tom, and Christopher Reeve were fake DC fans. That’s the level of aggressive fandom censorship presented in the modern DC landscape. It doesn’t even make sense. Especially since a singular selfie was all it took for lifetime Snyder-haters to want him back at DC. So this hate is clearly an act, you don’t 180 your opinions like that if they’re really your opinion.

The fact of the matter is that this curated hive of brand-aligned attack dogs wants free rein to shriek about what they hate for over a decade, but don’t want fans to speak about what they love. [...] This targeted hate does not aid the box office and makes the DC hobby space less desirable to anyone who doesn’t get off on calling someone a fascist for enjoying a movie. That leads to fewer new fans in the long term. And in the long-term, old actors keep coming back to their iconic roles.

When we examine industry trends, returning actors are often the go-to choice for studios that lack insight into what the audience wants. Look at Spider-Man: No Way Home, which saw Andrew and Tobey return alongside a host of beloved villains. Look at Deadpool & Wolverine, and how it stuffed an eclectic group of long-presumed retired superhero roles back into the mainstream. Even Avengers: Doomsday will see the likes of Jackman and Maguire suiting up again alongside a myriad of actors from Paramount, Sony, and FOX’s superhero back catalogue. So why, then, is it insane to think that Henry Cavill could one day wear the costume again? Let’s not pretend that WB isn’t following Marvel’s playbook; they hired a Marvel guy to sort of reboot the DCEU into the DCU. I mean, he essentially retonned David Corenswet into the DCEU rather than starting with a whole new cast and setting, but they called it a reboot anyway.

[...] The people who say “move on” really mean, “I hate you, I hate what makes you happy, I have worked hard to shut down the things that bring you joy, and I can’t stand the possibility that those things will come back”, which isn’t very nice, punk rock, or remotely normal. All of this malice springs from the toxic mismanagement of WB/WBD, which has weaponized fandom disagreements to distract from their own inadequate film productions and management for decades.

No matter what way you cut it, remaining a fan of a prior actor or director isn’t toxic. Not being interested in a new, different version of that IP is called personal preference and is likewise not toxic behavior. [...]

[...] You can look at the success of Sony and Marvel’s partnership or the impending return of Michael Bay to the Transformers universe and learn from them, or keep rebooting every three years and blaming the fans. Personally, I think we’re due to actually see a story through to the end for a change. The last time DC managed that was Nolan’s Dark Knight trilogy from 2005-2012. That’s a 14-year hiatus of DC ending a story as intended, which is far too long.

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Following James Gunn’s Superman underperforming, Supergirl now looks like it may have its own Kryptonite.

Matt Belloni is not sold on Supergirl, and if his box office outlook is anywhere close, DC Studios and James Gunn could have another major problem on their hands.

On The Town’s 2026 Summer Blockbuster Confidence Ranking, the Puck News founder gave Supergirl one of the lowest scores on the board and said he expects the movie to make only around $300 million to $350 million worldwide

That could be a major issue depending on the budget.

Using the industry standard 2.5x break-even rule, if Supergirl costs around $150 million, it would need roughly $375 million worldwide to break even. A $300 million global finish would put it about $75 million short.

If the budget is closer to $200 million, Supergirl would need around $500 million worldwide to break even. In that case, a $300 million worst-case scenario finish could mean a loss of $200 million or more.

Belloni ranked Supergirl near the bottom of the 13 summer movies being discussed, placing it at No. 2 on his confidence scale, with thirteen being the highest.

Scott Mendelson was not as down on Supergirl as Belloni, but he also did not sound blown away.

Mendelson gave the movie a 5 out of 13.

“The production values was there. It just felt very chaotic and busy in a way that just let them breathe,” Mendelson said.

Mendelson also addressed the budget and pushed back against the idea that Supergirl is some ultra-cheap DC movie.

“I know this is cheaper than Superman. I was assured that it was not like a Daredevil to Elektra come down in terms of budget,” Mendelson said.

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The most glaring similarity between them is the fact that both Batman v Superman and Man of Tomorrow are team-up films. In the former, Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman eventually banded together to defeat Lex Luthor and Doomsday. In the latter, Superman and Lex Luthor will have to team up to take down Brainiac. The cast of Man of Tomorrow also includes other DC heroes, like Isabela Merced's Hawkgirl and Aaron Pierre's John Stewart, mirroring Batman v Superman's use of Wonder Woman.

There has even been speculation that Man of Tomorrow will debut the DCU's Wonder Woman, though the full details of the movie's cast have been mired in rumors, refutations, and gossip. Man of Tomorrow, as well, will be the DCU's second outing for Superman, just as Batman v Superman was. Additionally, neither of the films are really sequels to the first Superman films in their respective franchises. As team-up movies, these stories are really about the franchise at large rather than Superman himself.

Even Superman 2025 wasn't really a solo Superman movie. He was the main focus of the film, but it also very notably featured several other DC characters in supporting roles. Hawkgirl, Guy Gardner, Mister Terrific, and even Metamorpho all had big roles to play in Superman, and the movie ended with a Supergirl cameo. Superman 2025 was effectively a soft launch for the Justice League (or Gang) as a whole.