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INC: Illegal Praise and Worship?

INC: Illegal Praise and Worship?

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INC does not want its members going to praise and worship concerts, and their members make fun mock and insult the protestants and non denominations for their modern praise and worship that look like concerts.
They view it as unacceptable or dirty or ungodly. Something an INC member should not participate or even attend in.
But somehow they can host SECULAR CONCERTS that have nothing to do in praising God and if you examine the lyrics you will find them dark and ungodly, but those are totally fine to host in their CHURCH OWNED worship venues and attended by their members as long as they pay good money to get in ?

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u/Titobaggs84 — 1 hour ago

Remember MIZRACH or "FAR EAST" doctrine. 3 Hit Combo

When INC tells you " PH is Mizrach" because PH is far east 7000+islands and First Christian Nation.

You have yourself a 3 Hit combo.

  1. PH is not the MOST islands in the world, its not even the most islands in the east or south east or south east asia. Google it.
    They say " 7000 islands" To deceive you into thinking wow alot, and they hope you are dumb enough to assume PH is MOST ISLANDS, without them saying it to be a blatant liar.
  2. PH is not the FARTHEST east from israel, nor is it the farthest east by other measurements using longitude latitude and its not even the land of the rising sun.
  3. FIRST CHRISTIAN NATION? According to whom and why?
    The verse in the bible they use is
  • Isaiah 24:15 “Glorify the Lord in the east… in the islands of the sea.”
  • Also paired with Isaiah 42:10–12 “Sing to the Lord a new song… you who go down to the sea… the coastlands (islands)… let them give glory to the Lord.”

First, the verse doesn't say anywhere "First Christian Nation".
But let's assume we follow their interpretation, they are still wrong.
PH is not the first Christian nation in asia., They claim this because they found an article of someone claiming PH is the first christian nation in asia.
But think about this for a moment, why did the person say that? He said it because PH was catholic!!!
Think for a moment, so PH became a Christian nation because of CATHOLICS? then INC is admitting that catholicism is valid Christians and not pagans/false religion, they are CHRISTIAN!

Now they will say, no no catholics are not real christians.
OK then why is the fulfilment of the supposed prophecy BASED on the perspective of a nonbeliever and not based on the interpretation of the "TRUE CHURCH".

now they will try a different angle. "well PH is where INC came from therefore PH is now a christian nation"
ah so a minority group makes it a Christian nation?
So if a country is 90% catholic and 5% INC the nation is a christian nation? by that logic every country that INC plants a church is automatically a CHRISTIAN NATION?

what if its 1% buddhist? is it a buddhist nation now? what are we basing this ridiculous definition on? the majority or the minority?

But remember, the fulfilment of prophecy is suppsoed to be interpreted BIBLICALLY not SECULAR or in this case an INC , in the perspective of the bible. the bible wont say " they will worship God" and the fulfillment is "pagans worshipping idols eating dinuguan and calling a man- GOD falsely"

IF anything, muslim countries would fit the INC description of "WORSHIPPING" because they dont eat blood, they have strict moral codes, they dont think jesus is God, and so on. INC and ISLAM are practically close cousins compard to catholics and protestants. so if INC interprets "WORSHIP" it would have to be muslims , so indonesia would be a better fit

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u/Titobaggs84 — 6 hours ago

The INC Glue= "TIWALAG DOCTRINE"

THE TIWALAG DOCTRINE.
The bible says to put the evildoer from among you, so INC is correct in that part of the doctrine.

But INC being true to their name is INComplete.
The remaining chapter says, treat them like a pagan or a tax collector.

Ask yourself, who does INC consider PAGAN? Catholics right?
Now ask yourself again,

Tiwalag: don't talk, don't interact, disown, kick them out of the family, and so on.
Catholic: talk, hang out, date, and so on.
How is INC obeying the TIWALAG doctrine when they are not treating the tiwalag like a PAGAN ?

I have seen plenty of INC interact with other groups like catholics in school, in the neighborhood, at work, and so on, where did INC then summon the concept that TIWALAG means to disown and not interact with a person who quits their group?

The way to defeat INC is to be more INC than the INC, push them to obey their own doctrine, but more than that, make sure they actually follow what the doctrine teaches .

MATTHEW Chapter 18. Starting from verse 15 to 17

^(15) “If your brother or sister^([)^(b)^(]) sins,^([)^(c)^(]) go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over. ^(16) But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’^([)^(d)^(]) ^(17) If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.

u/Titobaggs84 — 6 hours ago

Think about this INC members. Did Jesus do what your group does?

For example. Did Jesus seperate men and women before he gave sermon.
Did Jesus demand people wear certain clothes before attending his sermon.
Did Jesus demand you attend 25 bible study before you can join his group.
Did Jesus require to attend 2 x per week sermon ?
But your group called Church of Christ, they think they can make up these rules because they represent Jesus?

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u/Titobaggs84 — 3 days ago

Simple Proof that INC is false. Did YESHUA SPEAK TAGALOG?

INC members, you believe INC is true because JESUS and the DISCIPLES called the church IGLESIA NI CRISTO.
But did they speak tagalog?

Never.
So if you really want to join the REAL CHURCH it cannot be IGLESIA NI CRISTO because Jesus and the Disciples spoke Hebrew Greek and Aramaic AT MOST< never TAGALOG.

YOu might say "we are simply translating" OK if so, why do you still call yourself IGLESIA NI CRISTO when you are in america, in latin america, in europe, in other parts of asia. if you were just TRANSLATING then you would translate yourselves everytime you plant a branch at a different country. The fact you call yourselves IGLESIA NI CRISTO in every country just proves you really think the OFFICIAL NAME PROPER NOUN IS LITERALLY LETTER FOR LETTER "IGLESIA NI CRISTO" and that in itself DISPROVES you as the TRUE CHURCH, because again, if you are slow in the brain, YESHUA NEVER SPOKE TAGALOG NOR DID THE DISCIPLES WRITE TAGALOG IN THEIR TEACHINGS

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u/Titobaggs84 — 4 days ago