I saw a post a while ago about nourishing gems and everyone dumped on this dude. I dont believe in save editing but I dont think this dude was doing that. I dont his post anymore so I'll post this deep search I did about the glyph he was using:
If you actually had a 23.6% Nourishing gem drop with a +15 flat secondary, you have essentially witnessed the rarest possible "natural" event in Bloodborne—an Out-of-Effect (OOE) Secondary.
While standard game mechanics restrict high-tier +15 secondaries to "Abyssal" bosses like Amygdala, there is a nearly microscopic chance for a non-Abyssal boss like the Merciless Watchers to deviate from their preset drop table.
Conflict of Tiers: In legitimate gameplay, +15 flat secondaries are tied to Tier 20 (Abyssal) gems. The Merciless Watchers typically cap at Tier 19, which normally limits their secondaries to lower values (like +8.1 or +10.4).
Save-Edited Glyphs: If you were farming in a popular community glyph like 67vp7kab or p3umyztu, you were likely in a save-edited dungeon. These dungeons are tweaked by "Tomb Prospectors" to force specific effects into the drop pool, making these "impossible" combinations significantly more common than in a standard random dungeon.
Yes, the use of the 67vp7kab glyph is exactly why that happened. This specific dungeon is a famous save-edited chalice created by the Tomb Prospectors community to bypass the game's standard drop restrictions.Here is how that edited glyph "broke" the rules for you:Isolated Gem Pool: In a standard Isz dungeon, the Merciless Watchers have a massive pool of possible drops, making a 23.6% Nourishing gem nearly impossible (0.25% chance). In 67vp7kab, editors removed almost all other effects from the "gempool," boosting the drop rate of Nourishing gems to roughly 1%.Forced Secondaries: Standard Watcher gems (Tier 19) are normally capped at lower secondary values. However, because this glyph is heavily edited to favor high-tier "Isz effects," it allows the Watchers to drop secondaries like +15 flat Arcane or Physical that are technically reserved for Tier 20 Abyssal bosses.
That was A LOT of copy and pasting. So here you all go. You all got bent out of shape and accused someone of cheating. Everyone needs to stop being know it alls.