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The $32 floor rate is worth $14 after costs and inflation. Let's talk about what's actually happening. I've broken down earnings, deadlines, changes to the federal budget. Here's what I've found that's actually going on!

The $32 floor rate is worth $14 after costs and inflation. Let's talk about what's actually happening. I've broken down earnings, deadlines, changes to the federal budget. Here's what I've found that's actually going on!

I was hoping to have this for everyone on the 5th or 6th, but my perfectionism and being really busy has held me back. I apologise my brothers.

Both Uber and DoorDash reported Q1 2026 earnings. Cutting through the investor noise, here's what's actually relevant to us.

THE $32 FLOOR RATE — WHAT IT ACTUALLY MEANS

July 1 is 55 days away. The headline is $32/hr for car drivers and $31.30 for bikes. Sounds like a win. But there's a catch that's getting buried in every article about it.

"Active time" means order accepted → drop-off only. Waiting between orders, positioning yourself in a hotspot, sitting at the restaurant while they make the food — none of that counts. And the top-up isn't weekly. It's a 21-day rolling calculation. Have a slow fortnight? You're waiting up to 3 weeks for a correction. Not great when rent is due.

The real effective hourly rate once you factor in all that dead time is a very different number to $32.

https://preview.redd.it/syl5tvo9d21h1.jpg?width=1472&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b37e2d4a00a4c75f1936351f2eb96429c4f92e08

THE DATA

  • Uber delivery revenue up 34% — fastest growing part of their business
  • Australia was specifically named on the earnings call as a key growth market
  • DoorDash total orders up 32% YoY, but missed profit expectations for next quarter
  • Uber bought back $3 billion of its own stock this quarter\

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THE FEDERAL BUDGET — WHAT IT ACTUALLY MEANS FOR US

The 2026–27 Federal Budget dropped three things relevant to us as gig workers — one actually useful, one that sounds useful but is a trap, and one that confirms what we already know. The useful one: fuel excise was temporarily halved from 52.6c to 20.6c per litre from April 1 — roughly $6–8 cheaper per tank right now, real money. The trap: the new $1,000 instant tax deduction sounds like a win, but if you're claiming vehicle costs properly at the ATO rate of $0.88/km, you're almost certainly claiming far more than $1,000 already — switching to the flat deduction would cost you thousands. Keep your logbook, keep your real deductions. And the confirming-what-we-already-know part: CPI is forecast to hit 5% this year. Your $32 floor rate, already worth around $19 in real terms once dead time is factored in, is being eroded by inflation before it even kicks in.

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THE MARKET — IT'S JUST TWO OF THEM NOW

Menulog had 24% of the Australian market. They're gone as of November 2025. Before them, Deliveroo left in 2022. Foodora in 2018. Every time a platform exits, our options shrink and theirs don't.

The brutal irony — Menulog was the one that actually tried to do right by drivers. They ran trials hiring couriers as employees in 2021. It cost them too much to compete and they couldn't survive it. Meanwhile Uber and DoorDash played hardball, waited it out, and are now negotiating the minimum standards on their own terms. Doing the right thing killed them competitively.

The demand is growing. The profit is growing. The platforms know exactly what they're doing.

https://preview.redd.it/mriqwpucf21h1.jpg?width=1324&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4359bed807529fdb2993f621683d232663bf19d1

10 MILLION DRIVERS. THINK ABOUT THAT.

  • Uber now has 10 million+ active earners globally
  • The growth in demand appears to be in step with growth in new drivers

More drivers chasing the same orders means less active delivery time per driver — which means less floor rate top-up liability for Uber. They don't need to cut your pay. They just need to keep onboarding.

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AND HERE'S THE EXISTENTIAL THREAT (You're welcome 🫠)

  • Coco Robotics launched autonomous delivery with Uber Eats in San Jose last month
  • Uber has active deals with 20+ AV companies, targeting Waymo in 15 cities by end of 2026

This isn't a 10-year-away problem. San Jose was last month. The replacement program isn't hypothetical anymore.

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THE STATUS ON DECLINING BAD ORDERS

The "decline everything under $X" mentality is right — but it only works if enough of us actually do it. The algo notices acceptance rate patterns, and it notices when an order sits. Collective declining is legitimate pressure.

The harder problem is undocumented workers taking anything that moves. It's not their fault — they're in a desperate situation and the platforms know it and rely on it. The answer isn't to be angry at those drivers. The answer is to make collective action tight enough and visible enough that the platform can't route around us. That means knowing your zone, knowing your peak windows, and being disciplined when it counts.

THINGS WORTH TRYING BEYOND JUST DECLINING

  • Go offline for 10–14 days when quest values are garbage. Re-engagement offers follow almost every time. You're teaching the algo you're not captive.
  • Rotate your start zones occasionally. Predictable positioning gets you profiled and offered worse.
  • Multi-app and accept the best offer that comes in. Both platforms hate this, which is exactly why it works.
  • Track your real hourly rate including dead time, not just active delivery rate. Share what you're actually making. Real numbers are the most powerful thing we can put in front of each other.

A community that shares data, coordinates on declines during peak windows, and actually talks to each other is harder to exploit than one that just grinds in silence.

What's your current decline threshold and is it actually moving the needle? If this sub keeps growing with like-minded people who've experienced the same things — big shit can happen.

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u/ThatGameWasFIxedHey — 20 hours ago

Earnings just dropped for both Uber and DoorDash! I’ve analysed them, and we (all drivers, deliverers) need to know what’s been revealed, before 2nd July 7PM (Tggd!!

>!I was hoping to have this information for everyone on the 5th or 6th, but my perfectionism and being really busy has held me back. I apologise my brothers.!<

Both Uber and DoorDash reported Q1 2026 earnings. Cutting through the investor noise (unless you are one, then we can talk more), here’s what’s actually relevant:

https://imgur.com/gallery/79UoOIV#4Btq6R6

Starting with the thing that affects us most directly.

THE $32 FLOOR RATE — WHAT IT ACTUALLY MEANS 

July 1 is 55 days away. The headline is $32/hr for car drivers and $31.30 for bikes. Sounds like a win. But there’s a catch that’s getting buried in every article about it.

“Active time” means order accepted → drop-off only. Waiting between orders, positioning yourself in a hotspot, sitting at the restaurant while they make the food — none of that counts. And the top-up isn’t weekly. It’s a 21-day rolling calculation. Have a slow fortnight? You’re waiting up to 3 weeks for a correction. (Not great when rent is due)

The real effective hourly rate once you factor in all that dead time is a very different number to $32.

THE DATA

•	Uber delivery revenue up 34% — fastest growing part of their business!!

•	Australia was specifically named on the earnings call as a key growth market (Nation of lazy sloths, or it’s because no one can buy a house, so might as well YOLO every day)

•	DoorDash total orders up 32% year on year, but missed profit expectations for next quarter (Can expect DoorDash to tighten operations and payments, fml 🤦‍♂️)

•	Uber bought back $3 billion of its own stock this quarter (HUGE MOVE, great for investors, shows real confidence from directors on how things are going 📈)

THE MARKET — IT’S JUST TWO OF THEM NOW

Menulog had 24% of the Australian market. They’re gone as of November 2025. Before them, Deliveroo left in 2022. Foodora in 2018. Every time a platform exits, our options shrink and theirs don’t.

The brutal irony — Menulog was the one that actually tried to do right by drivers. They ran trials hiring couriers as employees in 2021. It cost them too much to compete and they couldn’t survive it. Meanwhile Uber and DoorDash played hardball, waited it out, and are now negotiating the minimum standards on their own terms. Doing the right thing killed them competitively.

The demand is growing. The profit is growing. The platforms know exactly what they’re doing. So we need to work together and build a community framework so we aren’t left holding the bag.

10 MILLION DRIVERS. THINK ABOUT THAT.

•	Uber now has 10 million+ active earners globally (did anyone else get the internal Uber message celebrating it? Felt like them mocking me saying we have 9,999,999 other options than you!)

‼️ But at the moment, I haven’t done the math but the growth in demand seems to be in step with growth in new drivers. ⏳✅

More drivers chasing the same orders means less active delivery time per driver — which means less floor rate top-up liability for Uber. They don’t need to cut your pay. They just need to keep onboarding.

NOW THIS IS WHERE I’LL MENTION OUR EXISTENTIAL THREAT (You’re welcome 🫠)

•	Coco Robotics launched autonomous delivery with Uber Eats in San Jose last month

•	Uber has active deals with 20+ AV companies, targeting Waymo in 15 cities by end of 2026 (Get your pitchforks sharpened)

This isn’t a 10-year-away problem. San Jose was last month. The replacement program isn’t hypothetical anymore.

THE STATUS ON DECLINING BAD ORDERS

The “decline everything under $X” mentality is right but it only works if enough of us actually do it. The algo notices acceptance rate patterns and it notices when an order sits. Collective declining is legitimate pressure.

The harder problem is undocumented workers taking anything that moves. It’s not their fault (I know, still frustrating) they’re in a desperate situation and the platforms know it and rely on it. The answer isn’t to be angry at those drivers. The answer is to make collective action tight enough and visible enough that the platform can’t just route around us. That means knowing your zone, knowing your peak windows, and being disciplined when it counts. Friday night or the night before rent is due isn’t the time to break.

Everything is a gun fight now between those with capital, assets and power and those without. Workers are just outgunned, but it’s not hard to get your power back, if we organise and collaborate and share information. We can set the terms.

THINGS WORTH TRYING BEYOND JUST DECLINING

•	Go offline for 10–14 days when quest values are garbage. Re-engagement offers follow almost every time. You’re teaching the algo you’re not captive, but Uber is convenient for you.

•	Rotate your start zones occasionally. Predictable positioning gets you profiled and offered worse.

•	Multi-app and accept the best offer that comes in. Both platforms hate this, which is exactly why it works.

•	Track your real hourly rate including dead time, not just active delivery rate. Share what you’re actually making. Real numbers are the most powerful thing we can put in front of each other.

A community that shares data, coordinates on declines during peak windows, and actually talks to each other is harder to exploit than one that just grinds in silence, and we’re gonna do that.

(Feel like doing a Martin Luther King, I have a dream speech now)

What’s your current decline threshold and is it actually moving the needle? Obviously the money is why we do this job…. But if this sub grows the way it is, with like minded folk, who’ve experienced similar things. Big things can happen!

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u/ThatGameWasFIxedHey — 3 days ago
▲ 99 r/ubereatsaustralia+1 crossposts

Alright so I’ve been going down a rabbit hole on everything hitting us this year and honestly some of it has me pretty fired up. Here’s the breakdown.

TODAY/TOMORROW (May 6th murica time) = $UBER & $DOORDASH QTRLY EARNINGS. (This will tell us a lot about, and allow us to gauge, infer, predict where things will go regarding the people that actually do the work)

THE GOOD
- $32/hr minimum for car drivers from July 1 2026

- $31.30/hr for bikes/scooters

- They CANNOT silently deactivate you on stats alone anymore.

- Mandatory accident insurance (finally)

- Access to your own work records

- Another increase coming January 1 2027

THE BAD (YEP, SORRY TO RAISE HOPE 🤕)

- That $32 only counts “active time”, meaning accepted order to drop-off. All that time waiting at the restaurant, repositioning, sitting online between orders? Unpaid. Do the math on what that actually works out to per real hour

- Top-up is every 21 days not weekly. Have a slow fortnight? You’re waiting 3 weeks for a correction

- Menulog had 24% of the market. They’re gone. It’s just Uber and DoorDash now and they both know it. (Another Cole’s and Woolworths🤬🤬)

- Both platforms as mentioned before report earnings today May 6. If they flag July as a big cost hit, expect quests and promos to quietly get worse

- More drivers online = less active time each = less they owe in top-ups. Don’t be surprised if onboarding ramps up even more, this bullshit $500 referral thing is directly aimed at migrants, either game it or don’t fall for it.

WHAT WE SHOULD ACTUALLY BE DOING

- Decline, Decline, Decline. Set your minimum and sometimes even decline that. Be as unreliable and unpredictable as possible. Their power comes from massive data collection and analysis for predictive strategy. Let’s try not give them everything they want for no cost at all!!!!

- Record what you’re earning RIGHT NOW before July so you can actually tell if anything improves or doesn’t.

- Go offline when quest values are garbage — 10-14 days and better offers usually follow. Stop grinding bad quests. We’re not employees, we’re contractors, we do what we want.

- When the 21-day statements come, actually read them. The dispute mechanism exists now, use it!!

- Talk to each other, let’s get this community pumping. I’m in for midst of building some tools and apps to help us “stay informed” lol.

>!The TWU got this deal because drivers pushed for it. That doesn’t stop being true after July 1!!<

What’s everyone actually pulling per hour right now? Keen to know what the real baseline looks like before this kicks in.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

🫵 You have the power, we make it work! 🤝

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u/ThatGameWasFIxedHey — 10 days ago