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Will be in Islamabad past 1am for 5-6 hours, anything to do that late?
Will be in Islamabad past 1am for 5-6 hours, anything to do that late?
u/PyramidsAndPalmTrees — 35 minutes ago
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Iran’s FM just said they never refused to go to Islamabad. The US media narrative is collapsing in real time.
This needs to be read carefully because there are two very different stories being told right now and only one of them is accurate.
The Wall Street Journal reported yesterday that Iran refused to meet US officials in Islamabad and that Pakistan’s mediation had reached a dead end. That story was picked up everywhere and the narrative became that Iran walked away and Pakistan’s diplomatic moment was over.
Today Iran’s Foreign Minister Araghchi posted on X directly contradicting this. His exact words: “Iran’s position is being misrepresented by US media. We are deeply grateful to Pakistan for its efforts and have never refused to go to Islamabad. What we care about are the terms of a conclusive and lasting end to the illegal war that is imposed on us.”
So what actually happened?
Iran didn’t refuse the venue. Iran refused the terms. These are completely different things. The US 15 point plan demands Iran dismantle its nuclear program, halt missile development, and effectively hand over control of the Strait of Hormuz. Iran’s counter conditions include war reparations, guaranteed non-aggression, and the end of all US military presence in the region. The gap between these two positions is enormous and has nothing to do with whether the meeting happens in Islamabad or Doha or Istanbul.
The WSJ framing that Iran refused to come to Islamabad was a deliberate misrepresentation that shifts blame for the impasse onto Iran’s attitude rather than onto the impossibility of the US demands. Iran is publicly correcting that record and importantly doing so while explicitly thanking Pakistan for its efforts. That’s not the statement of a country that wants to embarrass Pakistan. That’s a country that wants the mediation to continue under better conditions.
Turkey and Egypt are now exploring Doha and Istanbul as alternative venues. The mediation isn’t dead. The specific round of talks collapsed because the terms weren’t agreed, which is completely normal in any negotiation.
Pakistan’s role is intact. The narrative that it failed is largely a US media construct designed to manage expectations at home before Trump’s April 6 Hormuz deadline.
u/PyramidsAndPalmTrees — 1 day ago
Can we be honest about the Imran Khan messiah complex for a second
Every time something goes wrong in Pakistan someone posts a picture of Imran Khan with a caption saying he would have handled it better. Petrol hits 458 rupees, picture of IK. Hospital gets bombed in Kabul, picture of IK. Dollar goes up, picture of IK.
I say this as someone who genuinely believes he was wrongfully imprisoned and that what happened to him was a political hitjob. But the messiah framing is intellectually lazy and it’s actually hurting the movement more than helping it.
Let’s actually think about what IK would have done about petrol prices. His government was in power when petrol was already climbing. He gave subsidies he couldn’t afford right before he was removed, which is literally what this government is doing now and getting criticized for. The circular debt in the power sector grew significantly under his watch. He also went to the IMF.
The Afghanistan situation. His entire foreign policy position was that the Taliban should be engaged diplomatically. He called them freedom fighters. The same Taliban are now bombing our border posts. Would a PTI government have handled Operation Ghazab Lil Haq differently? Honestly who knows. But pretending IK had some magic formula nobody else has is not serious analysis.
The real case for Imran Khan doesn’t need him to be a messiah. He built real institutions before entering politics, ran a relatively cleaner administration than his predecessors, and was removed through a process that undermined the democratic system. That case is strong enough on its own.
But here’s the part nobody wants to say out loud.
No politician is changing Pakistan. Not Imran Khan, not Bilawal, not anyone waiting in the wings. And we all know why.
The people with actual power in this country have never been elected. The decisions about who gets to govern, for how long, under what conditions, are not made in parliament. They are made elsewhere. Every civilian government in Pakistan’s history has either served that power structure or been removed by it. Imran Khan’s own removal proved this. His supporters are absolutely right about that part.
the messiah posting implies that if IK just gets back into power everything changes. It doesn’t. Because the structural problem isn’t which politician is in office. It’s that elected politicians don’t actually run the country and haven’t since 1947. Any leader who tries to change that fundamental arrangement gets the same treatment regardless of how popular they are.
u/PyramidsAndPalmTrees — 1 day ago