u/PinkHairedCoder

This is cute.

Carrying on the tradition of former mods: https://www.reddit.com/r/Tangled/comments/hzdlen/rtangled_has_reached_5000_subscribers/

Milestones (though 10k and 15k are missing because there's no way to look up when those happened)

Subscribers:

20,000 - 2025-09-27

25,000 - 2026-05-08

People wanted shipping unbanned, and back on the menu, so with unbanning it also, comes allowing discourse and debate.

So let's point this one out.

Rapunzel x Cassandra is classisst!

Eugene:

>Orphan (Foundling in the series, even worse as it's literal abandonment, of course the series retcons his rogue blood and makes him a blue blood, but he was still RAISED an orphan in an era where having rogue blood, or being born 'wild,' classified you as subhuman.)

Had no one and nothing.

Raised a commoner.

Ended up resorting to thievery to survive starving on the streets and wilderness.

Re-invented himself to be someone instead of no one, and survive.

If going by Series, got mixed up in organized crime gangs like think Oliver Twist as a kinchin cove to an upright man.

Cassandra:

>Born to Gothel, a doxy by rogue classifications and thus a wild dell herself, YET she was found and taken in by the Captain of the Guard. In that day and age (15th-18th century if we go by all the eras creators have said over the years) to be a knight or Captain of the Royal Guard you had to be a NOBLE.

To be the level of servant she was, aka a lady in waiting, you also had to be a noble. So Cassandra was not a commoner. She was born one, but she was not raised one.

Raised by a loving father, who may have been a bit strict and stuck to varied sexist of that era, but still allowed her to train with the guard, gave her a home, family, and got her in with the servants to allow her an upbringing which would have been difficult in that time.

Eugene:

>Finds Rapunzel, who falls for him first, advancing with the questions and body language before Eugene finally opens up and falls for her.

>Rapunzel is the first one to see through the role and love and accept him for who he is unconditionally.

>Decides ON HIS OWN without Rapunzel telling him to, to give up his role and shield and occupation of survival to be with her.

>Gives up his life to free her.

FANDOM: "Let's take Rapunzel from the literal orphan who had nothing and was considered subhuman and hated until she came and saw him, and accepted him, with him giving his life for her to give her to the adopted into nobility, and cared for girl who got to live in a castle all her life and train with knights in a society that would normally not allow it showing she had privilege while she's completely toxic to Rapunzel and their chemistry is Rapunzel just obsessing over her for no reason but their lesbians and that's hot and if you disagree you're homophobic."

Go look at all of her other Tangled art too if you like the classic style.

https://www.instagram.com/verabraun_art/

For the beginning of Tangled, we have a pretty standard MacGuffin in the crown that Flynn steals from the castle with the Stabbington twins. The theft of it and his subsequent escape from the palace guards are the reason why Flynn stumbles upon Rapunzel. Rapunzel uses the crown to force Flynn to escort her to the palace. Not to mention that Flynn’s betrayal of the Stabbingtons so that he could escape and have the crown to himself is the reason why they hate him. When Mother sees the crown later and deduces that Flynn is with Rapunzel, it stops being a MacGuffin, but until then it functions as a fairly average one. However the crown is not simply a MacGuffin; it is a symbol for Rapunzel’s virginity.

First, it is important to know that technically Rapunzel has had the crown since birth. After all, as the daughter of the king and queen, the princess’s crown is hers by birthright. It is something that she wholly owns. However, she didn’t always know it was hers because she was kidnapped. She only begins to figure this out later when she goes out into the world and learns more about it and herself. This is not unlike a girl’s virginity. It is something she is born with and that she owns. However, many girls don’t know what it is until they are older and begin to learn about their bodies and the world around them.

Second, consider Mother Gothel’s words to Rapunzel once she finds Rapunzel the first time. Mother Gothel tells Rapunzel that as a mother, she knows that once Rapunzel gives Flynn the crown he will not want to be with her anymore. She says that Flynn doesn't really like her and that he is only sticking around, waiting for Rapunzel to give him the crown; once he has it, he will leave her. If you replace crown with virginity, you get the same advice that nearly every mother tells her daughter(s). Mothers tend to warn their daughters to save themselves for the one they love and warn them of those that will just use them until they get what they want, i.e. sex.

Third, there is the fact that in the original Grimm version of this story, Rapunzel does give her prince her virginity, leading to a teen pregnancy. This idea of the crown being a symbol for virginity would make sense since by the end of the film, Rapunzel does end up giving Flynn the crown.

It would also make that scene that much more significant and heartbreaking. In this scene, Rapunzel tells Flynn that she was afraid, but now she wasn't and then gives him the crown. Then when Rapunzel thinks that Flynn took the crown and left, she is devastated to the point that she willingly goes back home with her manipulative and cruel "mother". If we equate the crown with Rapunzel’s virginity, then her giving it to Flynn becomes a sexual act: she is giving him her virginity. She is no longer scared because she trusts him. Then when she believes that he has left her, Rapunzel’s devastation is now a product of the real life fear that many girls have: trusting a guy with her virginity and having him basically spit and trample all over that trust. Traumatizing, indeed.