
u/MasterpieceTimely144

Sending love and support to Marie Nicole
Many are stating they don't believe Marie Nicole, her abuse and trauma are being mocked and erased by some because she is a woman and was a girl when she was abused by Michael. They think she "breaks the mold" that "guilters are trying to concoct"
Stacy Brown, Maureen Callahan, MattsFTR and others have discredited Marie Nicole since the 60 minutes AU interview on May 10th and it breaks my heart to see this. Maureen and Stacy are grifters, but people like MattsFTR and others who believe Michael's survivors, but refuse to believe he harmed girls, are doing nothing to stand by these survivors. You either believe them or you don't.
Marie Nicole is not the only girl Michael was abusive or inappropriate with, and I wish people would understand that just because it deviates from what Michael "normally" did and who he "normally" targeted, it doesn't mean that these women are lying. Jane Doe came forward in 2016 about abuse from Michael when she was a girl, He has very weird inappropriate photos with Spencer Malnik, he had a weird obsession with the Ma twins, he convinced an 8 year old Solei Moonfrye to get in the jacuzzi with him, he was inappropriately touching Sage Galessi during the Black and White video shoot, he kept posessively grabbing her face and trying to kiss her cheek when she was clearly uncomfortable.
More than that, he seemed to be obsessed with Shirley Temple and had shrines to her all over his house, I'm not sure if this is correct or not but didn't he have a poster of Brooke Shields from when she was a minor? He also claims to have been smitten the first time he saw Lisa Marie when she was literally a very young child at one of the Jackson five concerts, he also allegedly said that he wanted to marry his god daughter and chose Emma Watson as a backup, Emma was 11 years old when he said this. AND He was 17 dating a 13 year old Tatum O'Neal. He befriended Marielle Tourelle in Poland and she accompanied him for the entire duration of the trip. She was also at neverland multiple times, He was calling Laura Chaplin almost every day on the phone and gave her loads of gifts, he brought her up on stage before too and played video games with her, his friendship with Lala Romero, Amy Agajanian... I could go on.
Just because Michael was seen more with boys, doesn't mean anything, and it's disgusting to see people discredit and dismiss the female survivors and victims of Michael because it doesn't fit some arbitrary pattern, he was a pedophile.
My father mostly targeted girls, but he had several boy victims as well. Michael may not have been interested in GROWN ADULT WOMEN but he was interested in little girls and that's obvious in the way he acted towards them, I can understand some people being confused because we didn't know this before 2016, we didn't know Michael had a female victim, but now there is more coming out about him and there's more people focusing on his actions that perhaps went unnoticed.
Yes, he focused mostly on boys, but erasing his girl victims does nothing but cause harm.
Sending so much love, strength and hope to Marie Nicole during all of this, I believe you and I stand with you no matter what anyone else is saying.
In 2003 on 60 Minutes US with Ed Bradley, Michael Jackson claimed he was manhandled by the cops during booking, he shows various bruises on his wrists claiming they were from the handcuffs.
Michael showed off these bruises claiming they resulted from being mistreated by police. On 60 minutes Australia on May 10th Dominic Cascio reveals that Michael begged and pleaded with him to "punch him in the arm" multiple times to cause bruising.
MJ was on various medications, many of which have the side effect of severe and easy bruising like demerol and xanax, Michael was also taking a whole host of drugs and recreationally using propofol to "sleep"
In a study from 1995, patients sedated with propofol were "more than twice as likely" to develop a hematoma. This, combined with all the other meds he was on, Michael was incredibly prone to severe bruising, which we saw in those "spider bite" photos, the ones Frank Cascio stated in his book were actually from an IV being yanked out of his leg, you can see significant bruising there. Bruising was also found on Michael during the autopsy.
The differences between someone who believes MJ is or may have been guilty, an advocate for CSA victims, and someone who is -not- an advocate.
Okay so a lot of stuff has come up recently in various social media that I've been made aware of and I wanted to discuss this because I think that this is important.
No shade to the people who have shared Maureen Callahan's videos, she appears to (sometimes) believe Michael is guilty but she has also cast doubt on the Cascio siblings claims, she's also a conservative who only has her own show because of Megyn Kelly.
Megyn Kelly is completely against the survivors of Michael, she recently cast doubt on Leaving Neverland WITH Mark Geragos who was on her show, the fact that he chose to go on there and shit talk about Wade and James makes me glad that he is no longer repping the Cascios.
MattsFTR has been on with Roxanne Johnson, he used to be a staunch supporter and defender of Michael but switched to believing the victims, but he did recently say he was "suspicious" of Marie Nicole's story and even mocked the finger guns / snap code word that Michael would use with her to send the signal he wanted to abuse her again.
Dan Reed recently spoke about how people do not care about Michael's victims, but to me he undermined his entire point by saying that he was suspect of the Cascio's motives in coming forward, though he did not deny that he believed them and their abuse, he also made it seem like they were after money, which is the Estate's narrative.
Many commenters on Roxanne's videos seem to find it hard to believe that the Cascio siblings didn't know each other were being abused, and some call into question the 60 minutes interview (because they claim it felt scripted)
I just want everyone to be aware that just because someone says they believe Michael may have been guilty, doesn't mean they are an advocate for his survivors. Roxanne Johnson is an advocate for victims and survivors, she believes them regardless of "inconsistencies" or "off vibes".
As important and impactful as people who speak about Michael's crimes are, some of them are not actually standing by his victims but are merely grifters, Maureen and Megyn are on opposite sides of the guilty spectrum but they are both fuckass grifters and make money off the trauma of others. Mark Geragos is a lawyer first and foremost and he only goes where the money is, if he's going on a conservative show and casting doubt on Leaving Neverland then that means he doesn't stand by Michael's survivors, he's just an opportunist who probably felt miffed that Michael lied to him in 03. Does that mean he doesn't believe the Cascios? Who fucking knows, but he's not an advocate.
And I know this is going to piss a lot of people off, but as important as Leaving Neverland was and still is, Dan Reed is not an advocate for survivors of CSA. He just isn't, he did a really good thing making this documentary and supporting Wade and James, but he isn't the person that people should be looking to for advocacy, I'm glad he made Leaving Neverland and I am glad he believes Wade and James, but he is not an advocate, nor is he an expert in CSA trauma.
Advocacy means to stand by abuse victims and survivors even if they are not perfect, even if they are on opposite political sides than you, standing up for abuse victims means that sometimes you will be standing up for someone you do not like or do not align with. There is a survivor of a different abuser that I will not name but she has actively started a campaign against another survivor of another different abuser, but I still support her because what happened to her should have never happened, and as unfortunate as it is, many times survivors will turn against other survivors even of different abusers.
Another example, Lena Dunham wrote a book about her life years ago and described in detail how she groomed and manipulated her sibling and abused that sibling, she and many others claim it's "not abuse" and many people online defended it as "oh it's just that Lena was curious, it's just curiosity", but by Lena's OWN ADMISSION she did this up until her sibling was in his young teens. (Lena's sibling was born female but now identifies as transmasc / nonbinary and uses he/him pronouns) and recently has revealed that Adam Driver was aggressive towards her on the set of her show, I believe her and support her right to speak out about Driver even though she has done really shitty things herself and has no accountability for what she did.
I think it's important to note the difference between someone who supports victims and survivors and then grifters like Maureen and lawyers like Mark Geragos, and even Dan Reed who does believe the survivors, but that doesn't make him a CSA advocate and I don't think he was setting out to do that when he made Leaving Neverland.
Advocates for Michael's survivors and other survivors are out there and I believe they should be lifted up.
Psi Scott, of the Singha beer family, speaks to the media for the first time since he posted a video talking about his brother Pi Scott raping him
19 year old Connor Joyce recounts being groomed and abused by tiktokker Zoe Laverne when he was only 13 years old.
This video is from last year. Connor is now a year older than Zoe was when she preyed on him. She's a tiktokker and he was a big fan of hers and would make edits for her, he then became something of a fandom leader and was on the front lines of defending her when she got into controversies.
He talks about how he didn't really understand what was going on, and that he also felt like he couldn't get away from her because she moved to PA with her friend, and her friend had up and left when she found out that Zoe was "in a relationship" with a 13 year old boy. He talks about how after all of it came out, people in his school mocked him for being SA'd, and photoshopped images of his face and her face on pornographic videos.
Zoe has absolutely no remorse for what she did, she joked about "do you think they have designer in jail" and other jokes that minimize the illegality of what she was doing. Connor says he felt like she was his peer at the time she was abusing him.