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Image 1 — RIP claude-code , I am in love with this
Image 2 — RIP claude-code , I am in love with this
Image 3 — RIP claude-code , I am in love with this

RIP claude-code , I am in love with this

For very long i was using claude-code, i will not go deeper into how bad this is and how much i wasted my time on it but in search for better coding harness, i came across one video on youtube - it was maximilianzuern talking about special kind of coding harness called PI - minimal with very very limited sets of tools. I saw that video and decided to give it a try - it was good and interesting but it was same as other following same principal and design. Yes i have gone through source code line by line.

My concern :-

Why coding agents has to support terminal by default, we spent our life working in browser, it is optimised for good data presentation - be it graph , beautiful card and so on. Why try to limit display and presentation capabilities of LLM to terminal only. Why not directly go with browser where human can better interact with agents.

Same agent loop design and context management , why sends all session history per turn as context - this is what it is and being followed by all harness out there be it claude code , opencode , PI or others, same story. Agree it or not but this burn tokens like water , choking LLM context , reaching limit too quickly and hours of wait time in case of claude-code.

Why treat plan mode as secondary features , agree or not but we all know how we are using this harness in real world, we ask it to build one feature ( sometime more than one ) - and it blindly start working on the project ( yes it will ask you needed question to better understand your intent & you can also ask to plan it first ), and in few hours it will generate massive thousands lines of change and eventually you will have massive PRs to review- if you are working with critical software ( banking, finance, hospitality and security ) - you cannot skip this PRs review - but PRs with thousand of lines of code , man nobody is going to review it no matter how skilful one is.

Slow linear progression on feature , like seriously why ? Why we are waiting for hours setting in-front of claude-code waiting just to click ENTER ( we know this feeling - setting scroll reels waiting to press ENTER )??

We are doing this bcz, either we are not sure what files claude will touch in advance and will do what modifications to achieve your feature or you are not reading plan carefully ( reason - treating it as secondary feature ).

My efforts so far

Well i will not go deep ranting about coding harness of current days. Let me give you some context on what i was building for months , I named it ogcode-it is MIT licensed and free to use and distribute.

Whatever i told you so far, all drawbacks, ogcode is solving all of them. But let me give you few things i love about ogcode, first thing first ogcode treat plan mode as default - you first plan your features or bugs fix with planner agent, once satisfied - click LOCK PLAN cta and task planner agent will break this plan into multiple parallel merge/DAGs safe tasks, then you can assign suitable coding agent to each tasks ( this can be automatic as well, according to task kind and complexity ). Let's say some task is UI heavy and some BL heavy then you assign agent suitable for UI/UX and to others agents good in BL. You can manage and maintain pool of coding agents according to their skills set and experience in subjects matters as well as assign one reviewer ( high end model ) per executor agents. Reviewer will give rating and review after each task completion , that these coding agent can use to correct itself and perform better next time. If can see - we are benchmarking LLMs on real project with real tasks in real world - we will release this benchmark weekly ( not decided yet ).

This i need to tell you for sure, it is called agentic session memory , it is built on idea- give each turn limited context necessary to perform given user query. This way ogcode right now is saving almost 70% tokens in longer session in my testing as compared to other out there - but knows that it is also improving ogcode accuracy. How? More context doesn't means higher accuracy it will add extra noise to LLM , it is relevant and to the point context that is needed to achieve query goal is what improves accuracy. There is too much to read in source code and README file, please have a look at my repo for further reading.

Pasting my GitHub repo link in here  https://github.com/prasenjeet-symon/ogcode 

References :-

During my research i came across these videos:-

by Sally-Ann Delucia on Context Management in Agents- such a good watch , she really knows her field - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esY99nYXxR4

by Luke Alvoeiro on The Multi-Agent Architecture That Actually Ships - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow1we5PzK-o

u/Jazzlike-Form9669 — 3 days ago

How on earth this can happen ?? Got funded with just a landing page

Listen me out, I know it may sound ridiculous.

I myself am the founder of ogcode -- an open‑source coding agent. I have made those mistakes of crafting the product end to end, making sure every nut and bolt is in place, making sure we are ready for 1M users’ worth of traffic on our launch day. Excited and pumped.

But then reality hits you. You launch it and you receive 100 users max of which almost 80% come from groups you joined, friends, and family.

I have one friend and you should listen to his story. We both decided to do a startup after leaving our company. I followed the path of building things and making sure everything was in place before launch.

But he did something completely different, at that time it was unheard of for me at least. He simply built a landing page and put one CTA: join waiting list. That’s all.

And he spent the majority of his time on Reddit posting and educating people about their product. In just 2 months he had 20K+ users on the waiting list, and the next month he convinced one VC to invest in his idea by showing that waiting list.

To be honest, at that time I felt jealous and stupid, but now I can connect the dots.

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u/Jazzlike-Form9669 — 4 days ago

How on earth this can happen ?? Got funded with just a landing page

Listen me out, I know it may sound ridiculous.

I myself am the founder of ogcode -- an open‑source coding agent. I have made those mistakes of crafting the product end to end, making sure every nut and bolt is in place, making sure we are ready for 1M users’ worth of traffic on our launch day. Excited and pumped.

But then reality hits you. You launch it and you receive 100 users max of which almost 80% come from groups you joined, friends, and family.

I have one friend and you should listen to his story. We both decided to do a startup after leaving our company. I followed the path of building things and making sure everything was in place before launch.

But he did something completely different, at that time it was unheard of for me at least. He simply built a landing page and put one CTA: join waiting list. That’s all.

And he spent the majority of his time on Reddit posting and educating people about their product. In just 2 months he had 20K+ users on the waiting list, and the next month he convinced one VC to invest in his idea by showing that waiting list.

To be honest, at that time I felt jealous and stupid, but now I can connect the dots.

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u/Jazzlike-Form9669 — 4 days ago

How on earth this can happen ?? Got funded with just a landing page

Listen me out, I know it may sound ridiculous.

I myself am the founder of ogcode -- an open‑source coding agent. I have made those mistakes of crafting the product end to end, making sure every nut and bolt is in place, making sure we are ready for 1M users’ worth of traffic on our launch day. Excited and pumped.

But then reality hits you. You launch it and you receive 100 users max of which almost 80% come from groups you joined, friends, and family.

I have one friend and you should listen to his story. We both decided to do a startup after leaving our company. I followed the path of building things and making sure everything was in place before launch.

But he did something completely different, at that time it was unheard of for me at least. He simply built a landing page and put one CTA: join waiting list. That’s all.

And he spent the majority of his time on Reddit posting and educating people about their product. In just 2 months he had 20K+ users on the waiting list, and the next month he convinced one VC to invest in his idea by showing that waiting list.

To be honest, at that time I felt jealous and stupid, but now I can connect the dots.

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u/Jazzlike-Form9669 — 4 days ago

Why PAIN ?

I was thinking about this problem for a while, if everything is designed for our well being then why do we feel mental pain , why there is mental suffering.

I know that we feel physical pain so that we can protect our body from being destroyed out from dangerous world out there.

But why mental PAIN ?

Can anyone help me here understand this ?

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u/Jazzlike-Form9669 — 7 days ago

Software ( SAS ) is not moat anymore. Here is how to approach it

Back then when there was no LLM and not chatgpt , claude code , ogcode ( it's built by me open-source & free - come contribute ) etc.. It was practically hard to build reasonable software - you may need to first assemble best in class software engineers , have massive amount of funds in place to support it and so and so forth.

But suddenly due to these new coding agent , it has become very cheap to produce software - you just need to prompt it better that's all due to this this power of software development is suddenly available to almost everyone as a result suddenly everyone is building there dream SAS and trying to sell in market as a result supply has increased but demands is almost consistent resulting in lower value of SAS.

So now real question is how to actually make businesses out of software in this competitive SAS market ?

Answer is simple - You need to realise that software is now "Commodity". You are selling on features and quality you have no chance in market , other will come and crush you in no time.

What to do now ?

Learn to sell Commodity that's it. How ?

NIKE

You got the point !

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u/Jazzlike-Form9669 — 7 days ago

Software ( SAS ) is not moat anymore. Here is how to approach it

Back then when there was no LLM and not chatgpt , claude code , ogcode ( it's built by me and open-source & free ) etc.. It was practically hard to build reasonable software - you may need to first assemble best in class software engineers , have massive amount of funds in place to support it and so and so forth.

But suddenly due to these new coding agent , it has become very cheap to produce software - you just need to prompt it better that's all due to this this power of software development is suddenly available to almost everyone as a result suddenly everyone is building there dream SAS and trying to sell in market as a result supply has increased but demands is almost consistent resulting in lower value of SAS.

So now real question is how to actually make businesses out of software in this competitive SAS market ?

Answer is simple - You need to realise that software is now "Commodity". You are selling on features and quality you have no chance in market , other will come and crush you in no time.

What to do now ?

Learn to sell Commodity that's it. How ?

NIKE

You got the point !

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u/Jazzlike-Form9669 — 7 days ago

No more LLM please , we are done!

In the last few years, we have all seen massive acceleration in LLM development and production. Every day, new models are released that are more intelligent and smarter than the previous generation. But notice one thing—as this intelligence grows, it requires more chains of thought and training on massive data, resulting in billions of parameters to accommodate this. As a result, there is more energy consumption (I am simplifying this, so do not take it too seriously).

But what if we do not need more development in the LLM field? What we already have on our plate is enough. If you ask me, whatever is in the market is sufficient.

To give you an analogy, think of the massive sun emitting energy continuously on Earth. How much of that energy do you think we are harnessing and utilizing for real-world use cases? Do a little research and you will get a surprising answer (let others know what that percentage is, by the way).

Now imagine I ask you to keep making the sun bigger and bigger. That would sound even more foolish. You would say: first learn to utilize whatever you already have properly. You get my point?

The same thing applies to LLMs nowadays. We need to learn to harness them efficiently, and that is a core software engineering task—not an AI/ML research field.

I was convinced by this so much that I started working on such harnessing myself, with a small contribution from my side. It is called ogcode—a coding agent orchestration ( DM to get involved ). Make no mistake, it is not like other harnesses out there that are highly inefficient at utilizing LLM intelligence. (Do more research: LLMs in the Claude Code environment perform 40% dumber compared to PI, which I love most.)

In the game of building harnesses, it is all about efficiency—how smartly and efficiently we can utilize LLMs for our day-to-day tasks. Note that it has nothing to do with coding only; you can build harnesses for other tasks too—video editing, social media management, etc.

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u/Jazzlike-Form9669 — 7 days ago
▲ 0 r/LLM

In the last few years, we have all seen massive acceleration in LLM development and production. Every day, new models are released that are more intelligent and smarter than the previous generation. But notice one thing—as this intelligence grows, it requires more chains of thought and training on massive data, resulting in billions of parameters to accommodate this. As a result, there is more energy consumption (I am simplifying this, so do not take it too seriously).

But what if we do not need more development in the LLM field? What we already have on our plate is enough. If you ask me, whatever is in the market is sufficient.

To give you an analogy, think of the massive sun emitting energy continuously on Earth. How much of that energy do you think we are harnessing and utilizing for real-world use cases? Do a little research and you will get a surprising answer (let others know what that percentage is, by the way).

Now imagine I ask you to keep making the sun bigger and bigger. That would sound even more foolish. You would say: first learn to utilize whatever you already have properly. You get my point?

The same thing applies to LLMs nowadays. We need to learn to harness them efficiently, and that is a core software engineering task—not an AI/ML research field.

I was convinced by this so much that I started working on such harnessing myself, with a small contribution from my side. It is called ogcode—a coding agent orchestration ( DM to get involved ). Make no mistake, it is not like other harnesses out there that are highly inefficient at utilizing LLM intelligence. (Do more research: LLMs in the Claude Code environment perform 40% dumber compared to PI, which I love most.)

In the game of building harnesses, it is all about efficiency—how smartly and efficiently we can utilize LLMs for our day-to-day tasks. Note that it has nothing to do with coding only; you can build harnesses for other tasks too—video editing, social media management, etc.

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u/Jazzlike-Form9669 — 7 days ago

In the last few years, we have all seen massive acceleration in LLM development and production. Every day, new models are released that are more intelligent and smarter than the previous generation. But notice one thing—as this intelligence grows, it requires more chains of thought and training on massive data, resulting in billions of parameters to accommodate this. As a result, there is more energy consumption (I am simplifying this, so do not take it too seriously).

But what if we do not need more development in the LLM field? What we already have on our plate is enough. If you ask me, whatever is in the market is sufficient.

To give you an analogy, think of the massive sun emitting energy continuously on Earth. How much of that energy do you think we are harnessing and utilizing for real-world use cases? Do a little research and you will get a surprising answer (let others know what that percentage is, by the way).

Now imagine I ask you to keep making the sun bigger and bigger. That would sound even more foolish. You would say: first learn to utilize whatever you already have properly. You get my point?

The same thing applies to LLMs nowadays. We need to learn to harness them efficiently, and that is a core software engineering task—not an AI/ML research field.

I was convinced by this so much that I started working on such harnessing myself, with a small contribution from my side. It is called ogcode—a open source coding agent orchestration. ( DM to get involved
) Make no mistake, it is not like other harnesses out there that are highly inefficient at utilizing LLM intelligence. (Do more research: LLMs in the Claude Code environment perform 40% dumber compared to PI, which I love most.)

In the game of building harnesses, it is all about efficiency—how smartly and efficiently we can utilize LLMs for our day-to-day tasks. Note that it has nothing to do with coding only; you can build harnesses for other tasks too—video editing, social media management, etc.

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u/Jazzlike-Form9669 — 7 days ago

In the last few years, we have all seen massive acceleration in LLM development and production. Every day, new models are released that are more intelligent and smarter than the previous generation. But notice one thing—as this intelligence grows, it requires more chains of thought and training on massive data, resulting in billions of parameters to accommodate this. As a result, there is more energy consumption (I am simplifying this, so do not take it too seriously).

But what if we do not need more development in the LLM field? What we already have on our plate is enough. If you ask me, whatever is in the market is sufficient.

To give you an analogy, think of the massive sun emitting energy continuously on Earth. How much of that energy do you think we are harnessing and utilizing for real-world use cases? Do a little research and you will get a surprising answer (let others know what that percentage is, by the way).

Now imagine I ask you to keep making the sun bigger and bigger. That would sound even more foolish. You would say: first learn to utilize whatever you already have properly. You get my point?

The same thing applies to LLMs nowadays. We need to learn to harness them efficiently, and that is a core software engineering task—not an AI/ML research field.

I was convinced by this so much that I started working on such harnessing myself, with a small contribution from my side. It is called ogcode—a open source coding agent orchestration. ( DM to get involved ) Make no mistake, it is not like other harnesses out there that are highly inefficient at utilizing LLM intelligence. (Do more research: LLMs in the Claude Code environment perform 40% dumber compared to PI, which I love most.)

In the game of building harnesses, it is all about efficiency—how smartly and efficiently we can utilize LLMs for our day-to-day tasks. Note that it has nothing to do with coding only; you can build harnesses for other tasks too—video editing, social media management, etc.

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u/Jazzlike-Form9669 — 7 days ago
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RIP claude-code , I am in love with this one

In ogcode, plan mode is the default. Whenever you touch the codebase, you start with planning first — clear, well‑documented TDD before a single line of code. Projects move forward one TDD at a time.

Need a feature? Instead of asking AI to build it in one go, you ask for a plan. Once satisfied, click Lock Plan → ogcode uses the planner agent to prepare a full TDD. Then the task planner agent breaks it into DAG‑safe tasks. Relevant agents (configurable) complete tasks in parallel. Complex or critical ones? Assign to a human teammate with one click.

When tasks finish, ogcode raises PRs automatically and archives the TDD. Next time you fix bugs or add features, it references archived TDDs instead of searching the repo — faster, cheaper, always on track.

Daily standups? Agents report progress in natural language, you give feedback like they’re teammates.

MIT licensed, fully local, free to use. I’m committed to this project and would love others to build on it. Repo has the details.

DM me for link and be part of community.

Due to many request adding repo link below:

https://github.com/prasenjeet-symon/ogcode

u/Jazzlike-Form9669 — 3 days ago

I have no idea where the world is moving. Everything is changing faster than ever. Every new release of LLM models seems to wipe out established industries. Every day there’s a new AI product that can do this or that. Sometimes it feels like—what’s the use of my skills? Will they even be relevant, not in a few months, but in just a few days?

If that’s the case, why spend so much time learning and crafting skills to solve problems for others and earn some cash? I don’t know about you, but it keeps me awake all night. I’m on fire because the future feels uncertain—skills seem meaningless, opinions don’t matter, and even solutions feel irrelevant.

I don’t know how to be useful in this chaotic AI age. Despite having strong technical skills—mastering web development, app development, AI product development, and coding tools—does it even matter anymore? Being fluent in all languages and frameworks, being in love with code, building something with heart… where have we come, and where are we going? I have no idea.

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u/Jazzlike-Form9669 — 8 days ago

How on earth this can happen ?? Got funded with just a landing page

Listen me out, I know it may sound ridiculous.

I myself am the founder of ogcode -- an open‑source coding agent. I have made those mistakes of crafting the product end to end, making sure every nut and bolt is in place, making sure we are ready for 1M users’ worth of traffic on our launch day. Excited and pumped.

But then reality hits you. You launch it and you receive 100 users max of which almost 80% come from groups you joined, friends, and family.

I have one friend and you should listen to his story. We both decided to do a startup after leaving our company. I followed the path of building things and making sure everything was in place before launch.

But he did something completely different, at that time it was unheard of for me at least. He simply built a landing page and put one CTA: join waiting list. That’s all.

And he spent the majority of his time on Reddit posting and educating people about their product. In just 2 months he had 20K+ users on the waiting list, and the next month he convinced one VC to invest in his idea by showing that waiting list.

To be honest, at that time I felt jealous and stupid, but now I can connect the dots.

reddit.com
u/Jazzlike-Form9669 — 8 days ago

I have no idea where the world is moving. Everything is changing faster than ever. Every new release of LLM models seems to wipe out established industries. Every day there’s a new AI product that can do this or that. Sometimes it feels like—what’s the use of my skills? Will they even be relevant, not in a few months, but in just a few days?

If that’s the case, why spend so much time learning and crafting skills to solve problems for others and earn some cash? I don’t know about you, but it keeps me awake all night. I’m on sleep pills because the future feels uncertain—skills seem meaningless, opinions don’t matter, and even solutions feel irrelevant.

I don’t know how to be useful in this chaotic AI age. Despite having strong technical skills—mastering web development, app development, AI product development, and coding tools—does it even matter anymore? Being fluent in all languages and frameworks, being in love with code, building something with heart… where have we come, and where are we going? I have no idea.

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u/Jazzlike-Form9669 — 8 days ago
▲ 0 r/Upwork

I have no idea where the world is moving. Everything is changing faster than ever. Every new release of LLM models seems to wipe out established industries. Every day there’s a new AI product that can do this or that. Sometimes it feels like—what’s the use of my skills? Will they even be relevant, not in a few months, but in just a few days?

If that’s the case, why spend so much time learning and crafting skills to solve problems for others and earn some cash? I don’t know about you, but it keeps me awake all night. I’m on sleep pills because the future feels uncertain—skills seem meaningless, opinions don’t matter, and even solutions feel irrelevant.

I don’t know how to be useful in this chaotic AI age. Despite having strong technical skills—mastering web development, app development, AI product development, and coding tools—does it even matter anymore? Being fluent in all languages and frameworks, being in love with code, building something with heart… where have we come, and where are we going? I have no idea.

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u/Jazzlike-Form9669 — 8 days ago

Listen me out, I know it may sound ridiculous.

I myself am the founder of ogcode -- an open‑source coding agent. I have made those mistakes of crafting the product end to end, making sure every nut and bolt is in place, making sure we are ready for 1M users’ worth of traffic on our launch day. Excited and pumped.

But then reality hits you. You launch it and you receive 100 users max of which almost 80% come from groups you joined, friends, and family.

I have one friend and you should listen to his story. We both decided to do a startup after leaving our company. I followed the path of building things and making sure everything was in place before launch.

But he did something completely different, at that time it was unheard of for me at least. He simply built a landing page and put one CTA: join waiting list. That’s all.

And he spent the majority of his time on Reddit posting and educating people about their product. In just 2 months he had 20K+ users on the waiting list, and the next month he convinced one VC to invest in his idea by showing that waiting list.

To be honest, at that time I felt jealous and stupid, but now I can connect the dots.

I may be wrong — would love to listen your story and product journey.

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u/Jazzlike-Form9669 — 9 days ago