u/ImHidden-Questions

Hey, I'm back, want some more thoughts

My previous post was about AI assisted writing, I wanted a general answer to a generalized question so I wasn't entirely honest about my novel. But this question requires me to be more honest so I'm going to explain a bit more in depth about my novel.

My novel has two volumes each with around 55 to 60 chapters and a third volume that has 17 chapters.

My volume one was written around 3 years ago solely by me with absolutely no outside help.

However during Volume 2 I started working with an editor on the volume one. And while working with that editor I tried to learn from their habits and things that they did that I liked when they were fixing or enhancing some of my work. I fed all of that into volume two.

During volume 3 I have been leaning on AI to assist me in the same way that I was using my editor. This is because I cannot currently afford to pay my editor. I do however plan to eventually work with them again when I can.

Anyways this comes to my question. I exported both my volume one and volume two as epubs and handed them to chatgpt and asked its thoughts on the overall composition. Mostly just because I wanted to know what would happen.

I generally ignore all the flowery words and compliments as they're not relevant to what I asked it. Just a quirk of the engine.

But basically, it told me that volume 1 is decent, struggling from pacing issues, and a generalized staged feeling coming from alot of the story beats feeling forced or led on.

For volume 2 it said that the overall story is more complete, feeling more connected and less staged. Better prose with improved character descriptors and emotional indicators slipped between dialogue in a more natural way.

I agree with both of these already in how I felt and it's the main reason I started working with an editor on volume one. But it also mentioned that the recent passages I've shared with it have been even better than volume 2, but didn't really give explanation or example on that. I also don't really know if it's talking about the 2500 words I give it, or if it included is own work that it's done on those chapters. . .

I just want to know people's generalized opinion on whether anything it said is even remotely trustable? As I'm not really even sure what parameters it's decided quality under lol.

Below is the direct conscripts of both responses.

First off, this already feels far more ambitious than most early web-serial fantasy projects. There’s a very clear sense that the author isn’t just improvising scene-to-scene — the world, factions, mythology, and long-term arcs all feel planned. That immediately separates it from a lot of amateur fantasy serials.

A few things stood out strongly:

## What’s Working Really Well

### The atmosphere and tone

The author is very good at creating a “heavy” fantasy atmosphere. The opening chapters especially have that dark-fantasy/light-novel hybrid feel where everything feels slightly theatrical and ominous.

A major antagonist’s early introduction works especially well because the story doesn’t just tell the reader they’re intimidating. The environment reacts to them. Small details like fire trembling or a room growing quieter create genuine presence.

The early villain scenes also immediately establish:

* hierarchy,

* ideological conflict,

* personalities,

* and future plot threads

without feeling like pure exposition.

One of the more chaotic antagonists especially has immediate scene presence and tends to dominate interactions whenever they appear.

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### Character identity through dialogue

This is probably the author’s strongest technical skill right now.

Characters generally sound distinct from each other.

That’s difficult to do consistently.

The more calculating characters sound controlled and predatory.

Others sound exhausted, manipulative, playful, unstable, or pragmatic depending on their role.

A lot of amateur fantasy falls into “everyone speaks with the author’s voice,” but this series usually avoids that problem.

The author also does something smart:

characters often imply information instead of directly stating it.

Lines about inheritance, corruption, or replacement frequently reveal:

* family conflict,

* political tension,

* emotional resentment,

* and future betrayal

without stopping the story to explain everything outright.

That’s a strong instinct as a writer.

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### The long-term hooks are genuinely compelling

Even from Volume 1, the story already feels like it’s moving toward:

* fate vs free will,

* cyclical tragedy,

* corruption of heroism,

* identity,

* inherited roles,

* and political/religious manipulation.

That’s substantially more layered than standard “adventurer guild fantasy.”

The recurring thematic idea that certain roles or destinies always repeat gives the story a strong backbone that could easily support a long-running series.

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## The Biggest Weakness Right Now

### Over-description during introductions

The author sometimes pauses momentum to fully describe clothing, body language, objects, posture, lighting, and symbolism all at once.

The imagery itself is usually good — the issue is pacing density.

Scenes occasionally stop too long to fully render every visual detail before moving forward again.

The result:

the reader admires the prose, but the momentum briefly freezes.

This has already improved compared to many similar web novels, but tightening descriptions by around 20–30% would make scenes hit harder emotionally.

A useful rule:

describe the most emotionally important details first.

The unnatural calm, symbolic accessories, dangerous eyes, or environmental reactions tend to matter far more than exact fabric details.

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## Another Important Improvement Area

### Repetition in sentence structure

There’s a recurring cadence in emotional scenes:

“Character performs action. Expression changes. Emotional explanation follows.”

Or:

“Pause. Look away. Slight reaction.”

This creates a rhythm that occasionally becomes noticeable over long reading sessions.

The newer sections already show improvement here. Dialogue overlaps more naturally with physical movement and environmental interaction, which helps scenes feel more alive.

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## The Biggest Hidden Strength

### The author understands “mythic framing”

A lot of writers can write scenes.

Very few can make a world feel like it has legendary momentum.

This series naturally frames characters as though they’re tied to:

* prophecy,

* history,

* symbols,

* inherited burdens,

* and repeating cycles.

That gives the story identity.

The title itself works because the writing actually supports that kind of thematic weight.

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## One Recommendation Going Forward

As the series grows longer, the biggest challenge will probably become:

### controlling exposition density

Because the worldbuilding is genuinely deep.

The danger is overwhelming readers before they emotionally attach to the cast.

The strongest moments are usually the personal ones:

* emotional conflict,

* manipulation,

* strained relationships,

* identity struggles,

* and moments of tension between characters.

The lore works best when tied directly to emotional consequences.

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## Overall Impression

The series already writes above the average dark fantasy web serial in:

* atmosphere,

* thematic ambition,

* character distinction,

* and narrative planning.

Where it still feels early-career is mostly:

* pacing control,

* trimming prose,

* and occasionally over-explaining visuals.

But those are fixable technical issues.

The harder thing — creating a world and story that feel emotionally and mythically compelling — is already there.

And honestly, the strongest sign is that the newer writing is noticeably better than the earliest material.

That means the author’s skill curve is actively climbing, which is exactly what you want in a long-running fantasy series.

Volume 2 is noticeably stronger than Volume 1.

Not just “more polished.”

It feels more confident.

Volume 1 felt like:

“Here is this world and these characters.”

Volume 2 feels more like:

“This story knows exactly what it wants to be.”

That’s a huge transition for a long-running fantasy series.

# The Biggest Improvement

## Character interaction flow

This is the clearest leap.

In Volume 1, scenes sometimes felt:

* sequential,

* slightly staged,

* or like characters were waiting their turn to speak.

In Volume 2, conversations feel far more alive.

Characters interrupt more.

Emotions overlap.

Physical actions happen during dialogue instead of before or after it.

That alone dramatically improves readability.

The author also became much better at:

* subtext,

* emotional contradiction,

* and tension inside dialogue.

The protagonist especially becomes far more layered here.

They no longer feel defined by a single emotional trait.

Instead they become:

* defensive,

* emotionally unstable,

* vulnerable,

* prideful,

* self-destructive,

* and occasionally frightening.

That complexity makes them substantially more memorable.

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# Pacing improved significantly

Volume 1 occasionally paused too long for:

* visual description,

* lore,

* atmosphere setup,

* or internal narration.

Volume 2 still keeps the atmospheric style, but scenes move faster.

The author became much better at:

* letting readers infer information,

* entering scenes later,

* and leaving scenes earlier.

That’s an underrated storytelling skill.

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# The emotional tone is stronger

Volume 2 has much better emotional continuity.

In Volume 1:

characters could experience something major, then emotionally “reset” slightly too quickly because the plot needed to continue moving.

In Volume 2:

emotional consequences linger much longer.

Characters carry previous scenes with them emotionally.

That makes the world feel more believable.

---

# Background storytelling improved a lot

There’s almost always:

* the immediate scene,

* the emotional conflict underneath it,

* and a larger political or mythic movement behind both.

Scenes often begin casually, allow tension to quietly build beneath the surface, then eventually erupt emotionally or politically later.

That layered structure is much stronger than the more direct storytelling style from Volume 1.

---

# The antagonists are much stronger here

Volume 1 had strong villain concepts.

Volume 2 makes them feel genuinely dangerous.

Manipulation becomes subtler.

Motivations feel more believable.

Schemes begin overlapping naturally.

The more politically manipulative antagonists benefit enormously from this change.

They feel less like “fantasy villains” and more like intelligent people actively shaping events behind the scenes.

---

# The prose is improving in the correct direction

This is important:

the author is not becoming more generic while improving.

A lot of writers polish away their identity.

This writing still keeps:

* dramatic weight,

* mythic atmosphere,

* emotional intensity,

* and strong dark fantasy identity.

But the prose is becoming:

* cleaner,

* more controlled,

* less overwritten,

* and easier to read.

That’s exactly the right evolution path.

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# One thing still holding the story back

## Over-explaining emotional states

Sometimes scenes already communicate emotion clearly through:

* dialogue,

* physical actions,

* or body language,

but then the narration explains the emotion again afterward.

Usually the audience already understands by that point.

Trusting the reader slightly more would sharpen scenes considerably.

---

# Another improvement area

## Scene transitions

Some transitions between scenes or arcs still move slightly too quickly emotionally.

Not confusing —

just fast.

The story clearly has:

* broad arc planning,

* multiple plot threads,

* and large-scale serial momentum.

But occasionally the story would benefit from:

* quieter aftermath scenes,

* smaller emotional reactions,

* or brief reflection moments

before the next major escalation.

Ironically, shorter quieter scenes could make the dramatic moments hit even harder.

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# The protagonist is evolving into the story’s greatest strength

By Volume 2, the protagonist begins feeling like:

* a force of nature,

* a wounded person,

* and a symbolic figure

all at once.

That’s difficult to achieve.

The themes surrounding false heroism, destructive destiny, self-hatred, and identity begin carrying far more emotional weight because the protagonist’s personality becomes increasingly distinct.

They start feeling less like:

“a protagonist inside the world”

and more like:

“someone the world itself revolves around.”

That’s when fantasy protagonists start becoming iconic.

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# Overall Comparison

## Volume 1 strengths

* Strong atmosphere

* Strong mythology

* Good thematic setup

* Interesting world

* Distinct dialogue voices

* Excellent long-term hooks

## Volume 2 strengths

* Better pacing

* Better emotional continuity

* Better dialogue flow

* Better scene layering

* Better antagonist execution

* Better character complexity

* Cleaner prose

* More confident storytelling

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# The important part

Volume 2 doesn’t feel like a different writer.

It feels like:

the same writer gaining control over their strengths.

That’s exactly what you want in a long fantasy series.

A lot of writers improve technically while losing identity.

This series improves technically while strengthening its identity.

That’s much rarer.

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u/ImHidden-Questions — 5 days ago

I'm looking for something I read awhile ago to suggest it to someone I know, but can't remember the name.

The basic gist is that it follows a character who I'm not entirely sure whether they're a demon or a god they might be a Demon Lord it's kind of fuzzy on whether that is ever established it is possible that it was established that they are one of a couple of demon Lords and that they just all have intricacies and that they focus on different things which is why she is the way she is but she awakens in a castle and doesn't recognize the castle or anything around her ends up leaving and stumbling across to like maids that are like undead I think and I don't remember what they talk about but they have like a conversation which gives some kind of World building before she eventually leaves gets on a boat has a run-in with some pirates before eventually making her way to land where she gets involved with the hero party and obtains her first victim. . .

As I mentioned earlier I think there might be a Demon Lord system where each of the demon Lords has a quirk and her quirk is she is obsessed with collecting women. Of various like walks of life like like they're pretty stones. So she wants one of every like thing. And the first one she stumbles upon is the love of the hero I think she's a saint and she's in the hero's party and that's the first one that gets kidnapped. This also involved like a dungeon that she used as like a defense against the hero after kidnapping the girl.

I'm pretty sure she forces them into like a contract but over time kind of stockholms them into loving her. She also kidnaps a princess at some point there's a succubus demon that tries to like mess with her but ends up losing and then becoming kind of a pet. A lot of this is very vague memory, I'm pretty sure there is a academy arc. Part of the main characters like aesthetic is that as much as she's going around and doing like a bad things and kidnapping these girls and like manipulating them she cares about them very much and will destroy the world to protect her harem that she's forcibly creating this causes her to conflict with other powerful beings that seek world destruction because if there's no world she cannot collect her harem. So she becomes a weird kind of anti-hero that is really kind of f***** up but also is technically protecting the world because it has her women in it that she loves

I remember a war arc I think.

There were definitely a lot of girls. . . Like it was a pretty big harem.

I don't know I feel like all of this is very vague and I don't know if anyone's going to know what I'm talking about I also kind of remember that the only place I could find it it was being released for paid but there was like 150 chapters that were free and then like 150 chapters that were paid I didn't feel like the story was worth paying for so I never finished it.

If it helps the story was ecchi but never leaned into actual p*** it never described anything it often skipped those scenes completely and only implied what had happened.

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u/ImHidden-Questions — 5 days ago

I wanted to ask about thoughts or feelings relating to AI assisted work so I wanted to describe my generalized process for how I write.

Basically I'll start by writing, I'll generally write about 2,500 words on average for an expectation of a 3,000 word chapter.

Because dialogue is one of my biggest weak points I will often do a dialogue pass where I will hand chatgpt descriptive and thorough examination of the characters involved in the scene to try and get their speech patterns down.

Then I will ask chatgpt to do a dialogue only pass, it will then hand me back my same chapter with only the dialogue adjusted.

Often this will reduce or extend the word count a bit. So then I spend time refining the character voice of the individual characters as it never gets it quite right but it gets me close enough that I can do the rest. And by that point I'll probably have around 2600 to 2,700 words

I handed the chapter back and ask it to do a rough 500 word environmental descriptive and character action descriptive pass using only information that the chapter gives or that I have given outside of the chapter.

Then it hands me back about 3,000 words and I pasted into my document and do a final read through to fix any problems that have arised from the AI tendency to do whatever it wants sometimes lol.

The most amount that I've ever given the AI to work on has been a chapter where I wasn't really sure how to write what I was thinking. So I worked back and forth with it for an hour giving it more and more details explanations examples and articulating as much as I could to try and get it to give me a working draft of the type of concept that I wanted so that I can then take it and dissect it and try and do something in my own words which I'm working on right now.

To be fair I was quite happy with what it handed me afterwards. But that did take a bunch of telling it what it was doing wrong and what was not leaning into my thought process or my ideas that it could course correct.

With this process I have written around 150 chapters meaning about 83% is human written while somewhere around 16 something percent is AI. With a decent bit of assisted dialogue.

It's honestly a very similar process to the process I went through with an editor that I was paying I'm currently not financially capable of paying them but I will likely pick them back up again and to work with them once I have the money as I really like working with a human rather than a robot but as it stands right now it's working pretty well.

And I was curious about generalize consensus or thoughts on a book with that type of History or process for creation.

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u/ImHidden-Questions — 12 days ago