u/ITSYOURBOYTUNA

My last use was tuesday at 6am. Started subs 30 hours (hell) later at 4mg. So far ive taken 4mg, 4mg, 4mg, 2mg, 4mg, 2mg, 2mg 1.3mg, 1.3mg. at 11-16 hour intervals depending on what i was needing ( i have been working and traveling since 12 hours after starting them, so i havent had a time to rest yet but have still been trying to reduce them. What does the next few days look like? .75, .75, .3, .3, jump? Or what should my now til jump look like. I go on an international trip Weds morning, which is 1 week from being on subs. Thanks for any advice.

A few of us would check in with either other during updates this week and it helped. Hope you are both going strong. Good job.

I have been taking "advanced kratom" from a smoke shop for the past eight months. They don't have a brand, the shop orders them bulk maybe 500-1000 at a time. Every batch is different; different colors, flavors, potency, effects.. before 7oh was restricted in Florida it was 7oh. After the new laws they changed significantly. Much less potency. I got up to seven or eight tabs a day for a bit, but over the last month I have tapered down to 1/2 a tablet 3 tines a day. I have basically been in ongoing withdrawals during this time; dread, anxiety, pain (my whole body,.my face hurts constantly, my neck and back are on fire, restless, etc.), without sleep medication I wouldn't have slept at all. I wake up at 5am with my neck and shoulders on fire and so much anxiety it literally hurts. I am sure many of you know what I mean so that's enough of my pity party.

I am trying to make the jump but have been terrified. Every time I tried to go to 1/4 of a tab 3x a day I couldnt maintain it for a whole day. I can't miss work which is full time, I go to college full time, and I have a daughter who lives with her mother but I talk to for 30-45 minutes every night on FaceTime and see frequently. I have been terrible at being present for her in our conversations lately.. I am so depressed and hopeless.

I had an appointment with WebMD last night and got a script for subs I will pick up after work today. I just took my last dose and will now go suffer through work and pretend everything is ok. I plan on taking 1mg of sub tonight around 6, so 12 hours from my last dose, to test it and make sure I don't go into precip, before I start the full 4mg 3x a day. I loaded Vitamin C yesterday and will continue it today. I have Gabapentin and sleep meds, and I know I am lucky to have those.

My question is.. how fucked am I? I don't know what is in these "advanced kratom". If it's MGM or something, are the subs even going to help? Or just prevent me from taking more if the withdrawals continue? What is a good MIT i can use if I absolutely need to? I am about to head inside to work, as someone who helps people in prison, and pretend I am ok. I am filled with fear. Thank you for any answers or tips you nay have. I will check my phone at lunch and after work before I pickup the subs.