u/HI-CPoppinLemonade

The only reliable build for this champion to do high consistent dmg is just to skip essence reaver. YOU DONT NEED IT.

Infinity Edge first item is all the dmg you will need to help you snowball the game.

RFC is what you are looking to build after. U know why it’s good on him. Don’t argue with me.

After RFC it’s always good to get your last whisper item 3rd. Make sure it’s a Lord Doms. Idc if they have healing on the enemy team force ur trash mid jungler top support to get anti heal. Ur job is to do dmg.

After Lord doms your going to want to beef up ur AD and survivabilty. Blood thirstier is a great option for this.

After BT u still need another crit item. And guess what? Hexoptics is what ur going to get. Don’t argue with me. Pair that with RFC and u have cait range as Lucian. Just do it.

Lastly get whatever the fuck u need for that game def wise

What is an ADC supposed to do when facing bruisers or tanks who are stacking Armor and the only option you have is a 30 or 35% armor pen item that seems like it’s simply not doing enough to fight thru the enemy teams armor?

Deaths dance and healing and shielding and thornmail, omen , frozen heart. There is just to many armor options that negate an ADC dmg.

It just seems like some games you just lose and there isn’t much you can do about it. Which feels really bad. I wish they would add the old last whisper item back where it ignored armor rather then reducing a very small amount of it which really is not doing much for you. You basically rely and hope u have a mage mid that can dish out enough magic dmg but rarely does this happen.

Just beyond frustrated with the state of ADC. Like sure we got some help this season, but then they throw it all away when ur basically forcing people to not even play adc when you can play a mage bot and have 6 items.

It’s so painful to not be able to play a champ you love because of how miserable it is to lane with him when u get a poke support which is what your going to have 80% of the time.

I get adc have to rely on their supports but this is way to much reliance. Lucian basically became an adc where if ur not a duo with ur support ur shooting urself in the leg playing him and only have access to half if not more than half of ur dmg.

His Q poke is horrible, it’s not even a poke ability anymore it’s just a minion killer. this champion is non self sustaining at all. And it feels so miserable to play him now

So I decided to be a vayne main after the new skin. Pretty fun champ. I main ADC so playing her seems pretty easy to me.

However I don’t understand the builds and runes people normally take on her!

It seems to me she would benefit move from fleet rather than pta or lethal tempo. I strongly disagree that the extra dmg is worth more than the sustain and movespeed u get with fleet. My secondary runes are the blue tree with the rune that gives you more movespeed lik 7% and gathering storm for the late game security.

Then my build usually goes as follows. BOTRK, into fiendhunter bolts, into IE then a last whisper item and from there I usually just get whatever I need for that specific game. Maybe it’s I’ll get a Phantom dancer if I need more movespeed and attack speed. Maybe I’ll get another BT if I need more lifesteal or a wits end if they have magic dmg that’s fed. Because with botrk fiend hunter ie and last whisper I already feel like the strongest champ in the game from there it’s just what I need to get.

I really never liked on hit builds as they lack actual dmg and u have to be stuck there AA 7 times vs just 4-5 with some crit.

I don’t think rage blade is necessary for vayne. She always was a crit build champ and performed very well with it

What exactly was the thought behind this change? Was it to basically give every assassin free dmg with no cooldown?

I don’t think I’ve seen such an insanely overpowered 1 item spike in a long time. And the best part is, literally anyone can buy it and perform well with it. Most notably is zed being able to do half your hp with a Q-E and he doesn’t even need to be fed for it lol.

Kayn can do this as well, it’s just not a very balanced item in my opinion right now and I’m fully expecting a nerf for this either next patch or a possible hot fix.

The same can be said for DFT and its interactions with other items. This season right now is just freelo if you know which items to abuse until riot decides it’s time to fix it