u/Glass-Remote-8790

Ive been a fan since Saturate, waited with baited breath for any new music from them all the way up to Dear Agony.

Dark Before Dawn was when I started to feel they were just recycling old ideas. I lost interest at Ember. It just became the same thing over and over. The talent was still there and the melodies and riffs were good, they just felt confined to a box and never stretched beyond it.

I sometimes wonder if the original members leaving made Ben retreat into repeating what he thought fans wanted.

Maybe an unpopular opinion, but I think they peaked at We Are Not Alone. That album showed a range I dont think they ever quite matched, though Phobia and DA were solid.