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Seriously, how stupid so you have to be to push a Sandoval redemption mere months after the scandal? Stassi, Kristen, James, all had to spend SEASONS working their way back into the group yet Sandy gets forced on the group immediately? What kind of idiot would actually think that would go over well?

I’m mainly writing this in hopes he sees this and knows how much a large percentage of the fan base hates him for what he did in S11. Seriously, it’s mind boggling what a moronic decision he made with the narrative of S11.

It makes me wonder what is going on behind the scenes that we don’t know about and that could be why Tom gets so much grace.

And don’t even get me started on Andy Cohen. “This is a group of cheaters, what’s the difference?” Well Andy, did anyone else dress as their mistress for Halloween? Did any of the other cheaters create an entire fake narrative to throw their SO under the bus? Or how about recording video sex without consent? Pushing his BFF on his mistress to create a smokescreen? I think Andy genuinely likes Tom as a person which is crazy.

Also, how Tom treated Katie! Like why the fuck did Bravo jump through hoops to redeem this POS?

I hope an worker or someone close to the top does an AMA one day, or writes a book. Something smells fishy because if there isn’t something fishy than holy crap is Baskin a total idiot.

So, at the end of S11 reunion, while the cast is packing up and undressing ect. He says something to Lala to the affect of “thank you for doing that, props, mad respect. You guys had my back and you’re really gonna get it from the fans after this so I appreciate you doing that.”

It’s not verbatim but it’s the gist of what he says. What I’m confused about is that at this point, didn’t Lala and Scheana still think they’d be on the right side of history? I believe that half (if not more) the reason they did what they did and said what they said this season was because they thought the fans would agree with them.

So, why does Lala defending her stance at the reunion (she said a bunch of nothing if I’m honest, idk if it’s editing or what but I was completely lost for the most part) …why does her standing by what she did this season at the reunion make Tom say “you’re gonna get a lot of heat because of this so I really appreciate you“ why would he think that if they were still in the mindset that fans would be on their side?

Had the tides already turned that much at the time of filming the reunion? I’m just really confused.

Before the full season was released, Lala and Scheana just kept saying “you guys will see, it will all make sense” so how come at the reunion, before all of the episodes had aired to the public, was Sandoval saying, “you guys are gonna get heat for this” Am I missing something?

So, the word on the street says that Lala and Sheana did what they did in order to “not get the show cancelled.” They wanted another season. But even if they succeeded in their moronic attempt to get Tom and Ariana to film together (which NOBODY wanted to see) they probably still wouldn’t have gotten another season. S11 was a failure because of the attempted redemption arc, not because of Ariana’s boudries.

So I’ve heard ppl say that S10 was actually planned to be the last season and that they only did S11 because fans were wanting to see the fallout of Scandoval. Knowing that, shouldn’t have Lala and Sheana already known that S11 would be the final season? I would imagine that going INTO S11, they would know “okay this is the last one, it was supposed to already done so we are lucky to get this addition season”

Oh and the fact that Lala tried to push this narrative that she’s worried about everyone’s jobs, like the crew. 🙄 “They depend on us to provide drama for their livelihood!” like, why is that solely on Ariana’s shoulders? The way she was acting was as if being cancelled was coming out of nowhere when I feel that the whole cast was going into S11 fully aware it was the last one.

Does anyone have any info on the production meetings or what they were being told by the head producers?

Don’t get me wrong, they did deserve to be fired, I’m not arguing that.

I just wish we would have had them around for the scandal and post scandal season. Honestly, I doubt they would have been able to hide the affair as long as they did with those two around.

Also, it would have been nice to have some girls back Ariana up in S11. I feel like Lala and Sheana were probably always gonna turn on Ariana (stupid girls) but Kristen and Stassi would have made a much better S11.

In the S11 reunion, it basically comes out that privately Lala was trying to get Katie to throw Ariana under the bus in order to be “authentic” 🙄 talk about grasping for straws! Because she vented one time about Ariana, but didn’t talk about it on camera that makes her [Katie] inauthentic? Give me a freakin break!

How do you think Scandoval would have played out of Stassi and Kristen were still on the show? I think that the way Ariana handled it was perfect. Her calling production and letting them film the fallout even though filming had wrapped was genius. She also played her hand right and booked a bunch of deals and benefited from opportunities by striking while the iron was hot. I wonder if THAT part would have ended up differently if Stassi and Kristen were still on the show?

Idk if her success would have had a different outcome but I know s11 would have been a hell of a lot better. I have a hard time believing that they’d do the same thing as Sheana and Lala but rather I think they’d do what Katie did. It would have been great to see them in Ariana’s corner and not just leave Katie to be the sole good friend.