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*sigh* Where do I even begin?

I guess we can start off small by focusing on:

Physical Stats

First off, let's focus on Gru. They acknowledged that he's fast enough to dodge multiple missiles which they say put him at Mach 10 as well as survive a barrage of missiles that can be seen for miles, though they left out the fact that he knocked out a shark in one punch.

But MAN did they downplay the hell out of Megamind.

They said that Megamind dodging blasts from Lady Doppler is only half the speed of sound, stating that it was just electricity and not actual lightning. However, this is completely and utterly false. Lady Doppler's powers actually got her powers when lightning struck her phone, and coursed through her body. Her powers are specifically described as "lightning bending" and she was even able to conjure storms with this. It really was actual lightning that Megamind was dodging, which has been calculated to put Megamind around Mach 73 to Mach 594. You guys can even see for yourselves:

https://mega-mind.fandom.com/wiki/Lady_Doppler

And this isn't the only instance of Megamind's speed, in the comics he once reacted to and pushed Roxanne away from a meteorite, which is around Mach 599.

Plus, Megamind has dodged laser beams at point-blank range which have been calced to reach Relativistic speeds from 9 to 104 percent the speed of light in the Megamind Rules! series in the "Go Fish Gang" episode.

Furthermore, Megamind even survived taking blasts from Lady Doppler and since one bolt of her lightning was powerful enough to conjure that storm, that would mean Megamind would also scale to the storm that nearly destroyed Metro City that reaches around 10.38 Megatons to 15.6 Gigatons, which reach higher from City Level to Mountain Level. Not to mention that Megamind has survived numerous explosions back-to-back and came out no worse for wear, as well as surviving repeated battles against powerful superhumans like Tighten and the Doom Syndicate, who can destroy all of Metro City. Not to mention, Megamind once kicked back a shark with his feet, which matches Gru punching one. However, Gru has other feats of strength as well, such as a massive clock hand to knock out a transformed monster and then threw it hard enough that it embedded itself in concrete as well as prying open a trash compactor with just one hand.

That's not to say, they didn't downplay Gru either, cause they did. They said that he was only Mach 10, when scaling above Vector, who launches himself around the circumference of the moon in around 1.92 seconds would put Vector, and by extension Gru, around 1 percent the speed of light. Still pretty fast, but not even half as quick as Megamind's speed.

Even if you want to not give them both lightspeed reactions, Megamind's mach speed is far superior to anything Gru can compete with.

So as far as physical stats go, while Gru does take strength by a little margin, Megamind far outscales him in speed and durability; ensuring that he wins the "quick-draw" as Death Battle put it and he can tank anything Gru throws at him. This category is a tie since Gru wins strength, Megamind wins speed and durability.

Technology and Gadgets

This is another huge blunder that the Death Battle team made that it's basically it's own can of worms.

For starters, let's adress the elephant in the room; they said that Gru is Moon Level just cause his Shrink Ray shrunk the moon. That is the most utterly stupid thing I have ever heard. That is not attack potency, that's just hax; which Megamind can easily counter with his Shrink Bombs. This is logic made from a kindergartener, and something that doesn't translate to destructive capability at all and attack potency translates to how much you can affect or destroy. The Shrink Ray doesn't count as Moon Level and none of Gru's weapons would scale to that even if it was and the Shrink Ray blasts can easily be dodged by Megamind's superior speed.

They even said Gru has more destructive gadgets while Megamind has more versatility, which is very, very, VERY false. See, Gru has several versatile gadgets while Megamind has several destructive gadgets that he has on standby to use.

Megamind has several powerful and destructive weapons like the Mega Blaster, Fusion Bouncer, Doom Barrage, various bombs, machine guns, unstable isotopes, Tesla Glove, etc. Meanwhile, Gru also has several versatile weapons like the Off-Remote, the Game Controller, Magnet Gun, Web Gun, etc. So both Gru and Megamind both have weapons and gadgets that are both destructive and versatile.

However, the thing is Megamind's technology is far more destructive and versatile than Gru's.

While stuff like the Off-Remote and Game Controller would be really useful for Gru, the Off-Remote has been shown to be easily deflected by a simple mirror, something that Megamind can easily dodge and reflect back at Gru with his Mega-Shield and the Game Controller needs to be aimed at its target point-blank for it to work, which would be extremely hard thanks to the numerous Brainbots and holograms Megamind has at his disposal, which would make it really hard for Gru to pinpoint. Not to mention, Megamind also can just depower the Mega Minions with the Stone of Transference.

The Death Ray Satellite that Megamind uses was also HEAVILY downplayed by Death Battle. Even ignoring the "fully concentrated power of the sun" and any of the planetary statements, the Death Ray Satellite once knocked an 800 billion ton comet out of orbit in Episode 8 of Megamind Rules!, a feat that's been calculated to be around 9 to even 10 Teratons of TNT. That's way higher than anything in Gru's arsenal. Even the Mega Minion Mel can't compete with this as despite firing a laser that pierced through the Earth, that feat only comes around 6 Megatons, whereas even if you downplay the Death Ray's feat of hitting the comet, that still comes around over 800 Megatons; which is over 92 times greater than Mel's laser and, by extension, Gru's whole arsenal. The second the Death Ray hits Gru, it's basically game over for him.

Megamind's Death Ray Satellite calc:

https://imgur.com/a/death-ray-comet-calc-tK69Ij0

Mega Minion Mel's laser calc:

https://imgur.com/a/UXOnmOO

While it can be argued that Gru can use the Minions as living meat shields to protect himself from the Death Ray Satellite's blast, that's assuming if not all of them are being overwhelmed by the Brainbot, which are there are over a 100,000 as opposed to the only 10,400 Minions; and Megamind can easily make several thousand more of them thanks to his Cloning Machine. Not to mention, the Porta Shields that all the Brainbots can deploy can easily subdue all the Minions as well as the Mega Minions since they're strong enough to contain even the Doom Syndicate.

While the Minions may be physically superior to the Brainbots, the sheer number of them, plus the Porta Shields, would simply overwhelm the Minions. Plus, the Brainbots are a better coordinated unit compared to the Minions and they can all be commanded and controlled by Chum, Megamind's own Minion who is just as smart as Megamind and far more competent, while Megamind focuses on Gru.

Furthermore, Megamind's B.I.N.K.E.Y. showcased power capable of destroying a meteorite, which reaches a total of 198.97 Gigatons of TNT or Large Island Level, which is yet another tool in Megamind's arsenal that's way above anything in Gru's arsenal. Megamind can use it to super-charge all his weapons like the De-Gun. Megamind also has the Metro Man suit, which gives him all the powers of Metro Man and let's him casually toss his colossal Mega-Megamind robot into the air and even survived getting stomped on by said colossal robot; thus surpassing the gap in physical stats.

Plus, Megamind has several other ways to subdue the Minions like hitting them all with the De-Moralise setting of the De-Gun thus making them lose their will to fight, blow them all away with his Storm Generator, distract them with his holograms, trick them with the Disguise Generator Watch, etc.

Megamind has several ways to subdue the Minions and has various ways to take down Gru and the Minions. Megamind has the better technology, both in destructive capability and versatility.

Skill

Before we talk about this, let's take a lot of this:

Wiz: "Both Gru and Megamind have their share of less-than-genius moments and bad luck, but even in the face of things gone wrong, Gru tends to... fail upwards, still ultimately completing his missions, unlike Megamind, who tends to fail much harder before he learns how to succeed."*

Boomstick: "And we love him for it. It's not like Gru has to put up with Elvis Superman. But even during their villain phases, Gru found some success, unlike Megamind."*

First off, comparing their track records doesn't make sense here cause during their "villain phases" were entirely different. Gru was more focused on stealing the biggest stuff there is like New York Jumbotron or stealing miniature versions of the Eiffel Tower or Statue of Liberty. Meanwhile, Megamind's schemes of fighting Metro Man, a Superman expy, has given him feats and weapons that are on par with several of Gru's best. Also, Gru's minor successes in stealing stuff doesn't compare to Megamind's fights against Metro Man. He may not have won any of their battles, but the fact that Megamind has created several inventions and gadgets that pose a threat to Metro Man and displayed several feats. It shouldn't be understated that the variety of gadgets that Megamind built and uses alongside the numerous feats he achieved with said gadgets shows what kind of threat Metro Man is and the fact that some of them do give Metro Man trouble.

Comparing their track records doesn't ensure who has the better chance of winning here as following that logic, Tom beats Wile E. Coyote since he catches Jerry more while Wile E. continues to fail to catch the Roadrunner, even though the Roadrunner is a far superior rival compared to Jerry. A factor that most people tend to forget, as explained and lampshaded in Boba Fett vs Predator, is the scope of their prey. That's not to say Megamind scales to Metro Man, but the various inventions he made, plus Gru only focusing on stealing stuff; doesn't exactly compare in the slightest.

Second, the whole thing of Gru finding success before or after his villain phase is also heavily false. When he first tried to steal the Shrink Ray from Vector, Gru failed to do so thanks to Vector's security measures, only being successful when his daughters were captured. In the second movie, he instantly no-diffed and incapacitated by Lucy via the Lipstick Taser and in the third movie, it's revealed that he has repeatedly failed the catch Balthazar Bratt and in their final confrontation, he nearly dies to his giant robot and was only saved & was able to beat Balthazar Bratt with help from his brother, Dru. All these examples show that Gru doesn't have a lot of success when facing new opponents he never fought before and only won on the second try, with the only exception being Maxime Le Mal. Hell, the Bank of Evil even stated the whole reason they refused to fund Gru anymore was because of his lack of success in villainy.

Third, the Death Battle crew had the audacity to say this in a pop-up box:

A Death Battle assumes each combatant has winning intent, so Megamind's reluctance to use his deadlier weaponry is negligible on its own. However, his continued laxness versus Gru's consistent successes suggests Gru is more practical.

Even though Boomstick said this in Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Kakashi:

Boomstick: "But, when you enter a Death Battle, throw those morals out the window. We're lookin' for who wins a no-holds-barred fight to the death."*

They literally state it's a golden rule for both characters to give it their all and then have the gall to use an anti-feat to decide why Megamind would lose. That's like saying Flash can't phase out of Captain Cold's ice even though he phased out of more complex stuff like molecular manipulation powers or why Superman uses some of his other powers that he could've easily gotten out of.

Even though Megamind doesn't use the De-Gun against the Doom Syndicate, he still showcased his intelligence by using the Disguise Generator Watch on Nighty-Knight to get the Doom Syndicate to attack each other while also formulating a plan to save his Minion, Chum, at the same time. This shows Megamind's cunning, knack for planning, and his ability to multi-task despite being placed in dangerous situations.

Finally, in the Megamind Rules! series, Megamind has been shown using the De-Gun at the Doom Syndicate multiple times when he was trapped in a digital simulation where he was kept getting attacked by them. Hell, Megamind has been seen repeatedly using the De-Gun on multiple occassions and he's been known to lock-in and use not just the De-Gun but several of his most powerful weapons when the situation calls for it.

Like the time when a meteorite was about to hit Metro City, Megamind wastes no time in hooking his De-Gun to the Fusion Reactor in his Invisible Car. Granted, it didn't work, but it's still a fine example of Megamind getting serious when the situation calls for it and in a fight to the death, especially against someone trying to take his life as shown with Tigthen, the Doom Syndicate, and Machiavillain.

Megamind has been consistently shown using his intelligence and cunning in formulating quick plans on his feet to beat opponents who are way more powerful like Tighthen and the Doom Syndicate. Plus, him outsmarting his mentor, Machiavillain, who's a master of manipulation and is a super genius, is a sheer testament to Megamind's own intelligence; showing that he can plan ahead, especially when put on the spot against more powerful opponents. So no doubt he be able to outsmart Gru, especially since Gru has been outsmarted by Balthazar Bratt and even tricked Gru into thinking he was Lucy and kidnapped his daughters. Hell, while Gru was building inventions since he was a kid, Megamind has been building stuff since he was a toddler.

While Gru and Megamind may tie in stats and armies, since in terms of the latter category both the Minions and Brainbots have their advantages and disadvantages, Megamind would win thanks to a combination of his more destructive and versatile technology as well as his superior intelligence.

This episode had the worst research I have ever seen and was clearly stacked against Megamind winning with the sheer way they downplayed Megamind, while using the most bizarre ways to ensure that Gru had the edge and stating such false information.

I'm sorry, but this episode was like the Kratos vs Asura for me due to it's really bad research.

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