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At this point I have to ask an honest question, and this group seems to be the place to ask with its set up.

In my view, the only way to know what you are doing wrong is to get honest feedback. With that being said the last two nights/mornings, i work overnights, I am back to old habits when it comes to curing boredom. I have the habit where I look at places like these where people put up links and promotions for their channels and if I don't plan on following due to my criteria I have I leave a message on their promotion piece telling them why I plan not to. I realize that when people do that they aren't asking for advice but I know if I was to do that I would want people to do that so I know how to improve. When I do so I am not straight out offensive, now I do hit certain subjects hard which are major icks in my eyes and sometimes my mannerisms come off putting. I don't mean offensive but I don't dance around anyone's feelings when I say what I feel needs to be said.

With all that being said, I have gotten all sorts of responses. Some of them people were receptive and understood what I was doing, appreciative for the advice. Some of the people just ignored it, didn't respond, moved on which I am not offended on that. The problem lies in the last group, the butt hurt. I have been kicked from a group on facebook, good riddance, because apparently I was too mean and bulling people for doing this. I was told apparently I had a "problem with women" yada yada yada when I was not discriminatory with how i commented, everyone got the same treatment. I got people who took what I said and took it ask if I was insulting a near loved when I never did so. In order to show people I am not against people doing what I did to them, I posted my own stuff in another post in these groups challenging them to do the same to me. One comment and it was a very common complaint from one person.

I live my life with the mantra of truth, reality, and accountability. I don't sugar coat things, and I want to uplift the small streamer community. It seems many groups have becoming "billboard sites" where people come, drop their links, photos, small blerb post and forget. I understand that no one expects me to do what I do but my thoughts if you are trying to get views you might want to know what others are thinking about your channel. Again I don't know what to think because honestly it is a mixed reception of responses. When I can give advice and it helps, it is a great feeling. When I get the butt hurt, it is the most toxic thing I have ever experienced. I understand again they didn't ask for the advice but it wasn't my mission to offend these people. I certainly don't need the reputation of having problem with women online and trying to destroy communities as I was accused. I don't need the reputation of being a bully as well. Considering all I was trying to do was try to help people grow, it is a morale killer for me.

I know my wife's and I stream is not the greatest and certainly not the greatest received. Over the last month to month and a half we have grown not only in content but stats. Although we aren't getting many follows, we are getting more eyes on our channel and would absolutely love if people would love to grill us telling us why they aren't following if they are coming in. We want to improve but we got to figure out how to turn views and unique views to follows, so that info would be handy. I honestly don't see what I am doing wrong, but I am not going to sugar coat things but not get offensive about it. If there is positive to be said, I do say it and give them kudos where I can. Thing is if they are promoting their streams, they are looking for views. If they weren't, they wouldn't be posting it.

I am a die hard believer that once you post something online and especially public, you got to be ready for everything both good and bad. Not everyone will be as stoked about your project as you are and see what you see in it. I believe echo chambers are detrimental to people and I refuse to join them in the name of feelings. After talking to my father-in-law tonight, he pointed out that most people who post online are looking for that only want good and positive things, but it is the internet and if you post public that isn't going to be the case.

Should I continue or should I stop? I really don't know anymore because the highs are high, but when it gets toxic it gets mentally draining to the point of depression. I am trying to build a brand and I can't have a bad reputation as I try to build. Yes, I do one thing that annoys people on my channel when it comes to the art I use, but it doesn't bleed into our content which seems to be the only thing people are hooked on. Here is the thing, unless you are on youtube, you wouldn't be able to tell. Enough about mine, I am just extremely confused.

I know this is a long shot to ask but I am going to try anyways. My wife and I have started back up our retro gaming channel. Over the last month we have been slowly gaining some traction with our over all stats going up. The two biggest problems we are having is the category that we are streaming under and keeping people around enough for a follow. My wife and I have over the last month to expand our potential by streaming not only on twitch, but now kick and youtube.

Let me be honest here, youtube has gotten us nothing. over the last month we had two people chat on youtube, that is it. Although the numbers say something else, we have had no growth on there. Kick, the retro category is horrible usually filled with other people who are multi streaming. On twich, we have seen some growth and our numbers are growing slightly every stream.

We have tried everything under the sun to get eyes on our channel short of paying for sharing our content. Both my wife and I with a few friends have shared the streams on socials. Main focus on facebook but I have expanded to instagram, x, and tik tok. I have tried to make shorts with what is given to us and started sharing them. For what its worth they are going well but no real interaction on the shorts. I have joined groups on here and facebook to promote our stream, but it seems that is more like a beggar begging from beggars type of situation anymore. I refuse to do the f4f scheme and would rather quit than to artificially inflate my numbers with people that are addicted to seeing their follow count go up but not their views.

I could promote locally but outside one gamer bar/club/hole in the wall and me having to work overnights, that isn't going to work. I thought about making physical flyers and posting them around town anywhere i can, but honestly I need a wider reach other than local if I am to go anywhere.

Yes I use AI for my promotion material because I am no where talented to make the stuff myself and is not profitable enough to pay real people for real custom work. I have bought all sorts of controllers systems and programs to expand our stream from maybe ps1 if it worked right and below now to include anything ps2/og xbox/gamecube and down with a few higher systems mainly nintendo ones. I got a steam account with a healthy amount of games and play wow now and again.

I don't know if the reasons we aren't getting any type of eyes on any of our channels is only an issue with the streaming sites or if there is something we are doing wrong or not doing. Personally we rather stay a dedicated retro gaming channel with a occasional newer or different game. We both have a passion for retro gaming and rarely play anything that is new and shiney. We are not clout and trend chasers. We believe in the pureness of playing games casually without having to have 10,000 gimmicks to keep people interested in coming in. No speedrunning, no randomizers, no vtubers, no identity politics labels, no gimmicks, no completionists runs, no crowd control, nothing. I would entertain a rom hack, and have, if it is good and worth my time. Right now I am playing Earthbound deluxe 3.0 and with the improvements I don't know if I could go vanilla again. We are real people, we don't over react to get attention, we are not into the dramatics of faking reactions for clips. Who we are on stream is who we are in real life.

Any suggestions would be appreciated, I don't care if you look at my stuff and grill me or just give me advice. Heck I don't care if you just skip the post. I just wanted to put something out there to see if anyone would be willing to give advice. You can't fish if you don't cast your line.

I know this is a long shot to ask but I am going to try anyways. My wife and I have started back up our retro gaming channel. Over the last month we have been slowly gaining some traction with our over all stats going up. The two biggest problems we are having is the category that we are streaming under and keeping people around enough for a follow. My wife and I have over the last month to expand our potential by streaming not only on twitch, but now kick and youtube.

Let me be honest here, youtube has gotten us nothing. over the last month we had two people chat on youtube, that is it. Although the numbers say something else, we have had no growth on there. Kick, the retro category is horrible usually filled with other people who are multi streaming. On twich, we have seen some growth and our numbers are growing slightly every stream.

We have tried everything under the sun to get eyes on our channel short of paying for sharing our content. Both my wife and I with a few friends have shared the streams on socials. Main focus on facebook but I have expanded to instagram, x, and tik tok. I have tried to make shorts with what is given to us and started sharing them. For what its worth they are going well but no real interaction on the shorts. I have joined groups on here and facebook to promote our stream, but it seems that is more like a beggar begging from beggars type of situation anymore. I refuse to do the f4f scheme and would rather quit than to artificially inflate my numbers with people that are addicted to seeing their follow count go up but not their views.

I could promote locally but outside one gamer bar/club/hole in the wall and me having to work overnights, that isn't going to work. I thought about making physical flyers and posting them around town anywhere i can, but honestly I need a wider reach other than local if I am to go anywhere.

Yes I use AI for my promotion material because I am no where talented to make the stuff myself and is not profitable enough to pay real people for real custom work. I have bought all sorts of controllers systems and programs to expand our stream from maybe ps1 if it worked right and below now to include anything ps2/og xbox/gamecube and down with a few higher systems mainly nintendo ones. I got a steam account with a healthy amount of games and play wow now and again.

I don't know if the reasons we aren't getting any type of eyes on any of our channels is only an issue with the streaming sites or if there is something we are doing wrong or not doing. Personally we rather stay a dedicated retro gaming channel with a occasional newer or different game. We both have a passion for retro gaming and rarely play anything that is new and shiney. We are not clout and trend chasers. We believe in the pureness of playing games casually without having to have 10,000 gimmicks to keep people interested in coming in. No speedrunning, no randomizers, no vtubers, no identity politics labels, no gimmicks, no completionists runs, no crowd control, nothing. I would entertain a rom hack, and have, if it is good and worth my time. Right now I am playing Earthbound deluxe 3.0 and with the improvements I don't know if I could go vanilla again. We are real people, we don't over react to get attention, we are not into the dramatics of faking reactions for clips. Who we are on stream is who we are in real life.

Any suggestions would be appreciated, I don't care if you look at my stuff and grill me or just give me advice. Heck I don't care if you just skip the post. I just wanted to put something out there to see if anyone would be willing to give advice. You can't fish if you don't cast your line.

I know this is a long shot to ask but I am going to try anyways. My wife and I have started back up our retro gaming channel. Over the last month we have been slowly gaining some traction with our over all stats going up. The two biggest problems we are having is the category that we are streaming under and keeping people around enough for a follow. My wife and I have over the last month to expand our potential by streaming not only on twitch, but now kick and youtube.

Let me be honest here, youtube has gotten us nothing. over the last month we had two people chat on youtube, that is it. Although the numbers say something else, we have had no growth on there. Kick, the retro category is horrible usually filled with other people who are multi streaming. On twich, we have seen some growth and our numbers are growing slightly every stream.

We have tried everything under the sun to get eyes on our channel short of paying for sharing our content. Both my wife and I with a few friends have shared the streams on socials. Main focus on facebook but I have expanded to instagram, x, and tik tok. I have tried to make shorts with what is given to us and started sharing them. For what its worth they are going well but no real interaction on the shorts. I have joined groups on here and facebook to promote our stream, but it seems that is more like a beggar begging from beggars type of situation anymore. I refuse to do the f4f scheme and would rather quit than to artificially inflate my numbers with people that are addicted to seeing their follow count go up but not their views.

I could promote locally but outside one gamer bar/club/hole in the wall and me having to work overnights, that isn't going to work. I thought about making physical flyers and posting them around town anywhere i can, but honestly I need a wider reach other than local if I am to go anywhere.

Yes I use AI for my promotion material because I am no where talented to make the stuff myself and is not profitable enough to pay real people for real custom work. I have bought all sorts of controllers systems and programs to expand our stream from maybe ps1 if it worked right and below now to include anything ps2/og xbox/gamecube and down with a few higher systems mainly nintendo ones. I got a steam account with a healthy amount of games and play wow now and again.

I don't know if the reasons we aren't getting any type of eyes on any of our channels is only an issue with the streaming sites or if there is something we are doing wrong or not doing. Personally we rather stay a dedicated retro gaming channel with a occasional newer or different game. We both have a passion for retro gaming and rarely play anything that is new and shiney. We are not clout and trend chasers. We believe in the pureness of playing games casually without having to have 10,000 gimmicks to keep people interested in coming in. No speedrunning, no randomizers, no vtubers, no identity politics labels, no gimmicks, no completionists runs, no crowd control, nothing. I would entertain a rom hack, and have, if it is good and worth my time. Right now I am playing Earthbound deluxe 3.0 and with the improvements I don't know if I could go vanilla again. We are real people, we don't over react to get attention, we are not into the dramatics of faking reactions for clips. Who we are on stream is who we are in real life.

Any suggestions would be appreciated, I don't care if you look at my stuff and grill me or just give me advice. Heck I don't care if you just skip the post. I just wanted to put something out there to see if anyone would be willing to give advice. You can't fish if you don't cast your line.