u/Extension-Diamond-74

This has been very frustrating.
I’ve been trying to spark conversation on veganism where it intersects with other ideology as a way of having these conversations in a place where it isn’t just an echo chamber.
I see this sub as a (critically important) place where we can come to find support and reassurance that our sense of justice and empathy isn’t anomalous.
Other related but non-vegan subs are an opportunity to bring these issues to the table for consideration where they may not be getting the consideration they deserve.

I find that so often veganism is either straight-up blocked as a topic or rapidly removed by moderators. Subreddits designed for challenging questions don’t want it, political subs don’t want it, and even subs related to climate can be lukewarm.

Everyone is happy to gang up on the fossil fuel industry or AI data centers, but the meat industry?? That’s mega controversial.

Just yesterday I got banned from the “leftist” subreddit. Post removed, and I was muted and banned, all at once. Wild.

I just don’t get the rage some people have towards veganism, even when approached from a place of calm respect. Frustrating.

Things we know:
Animal agriculture is responsible for: a massively inefficient use of freshwater at a time when the west is dealing with serious concerns about rapidly disappearing freshwater sources, taking up a mind boggling amount of land at a time when biodiversity loss is a critical concern (most of this land for the amount of agricultural land we need to feed livestock)(some estimates say it results in 75% more agricultural land use, you can look it up, but I’ll share sources if requested), a terrible amount of suffering, and poor health outcomes for a population struggling with obesity, diabetes, and heart disease. Oh, and a significant source of greenhouse gas emissions. And the part that’s really wild is the massive amount of government subsidies that go towards supporting these industries.

Again, I’m happy to provide credible sources on any of these points. But I can assure you that the above statements are very well established, widely supported data.

Reducing animal agriculture is one of the easiest and fastest ways we can make massive positive changes to benefit the economy, enhance public health, free up an incredible amount of land, and bolster environmental resilience.

So why doesn’t the global left confront the animal agriculture industry the same way that it confronts oil or pharmaceutical companies??